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Omar's most manly figure

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:51 am
by Schadenfreude
Probably the single best stat working in Omar's favor as people consider him for the Heisman is the number of touchdowns for which he has thrown.

Media are starting to notice this record (and I assume we can thank J.D. for helping to point it out).

Omar is currently on pace to throw 55 touchdown passes -- which would make him the all-time leader for a season and obliterate the conference record he already holds.

(Sure, he may not keep up this pace. But, God willing, he will play more than 11 games this season).

This is out of the NCAA record book:

SEASON TOUCHDOWN PASSES

David Klingler, Houston. 1990: 11 games, 54 TDs
B.J. Symons, Texas Tech. 2003: 13, 52
Jim McMahon, Brigham Young. 1980: 12, 47
Andre Ware, Houston. 1989: 11 46
Tim Rattay, Louisiana Tech. 1998: 12 46
Kliff Kingsbury, Texas Tech. 2002: 14 45
David Carr, Fresno St. 2001: 13 42
Ty Detmer, Brigham Young. 1990: 12 41
Omar Jacobs, Bowling Green. 2004: 12 41
Jason White, Oklahoma. 2003: 14 40
Dennis Shaw, San Diego St. 1969: 10 39
Danny Wuerffel, Florida. 1996: 12 39
Chad Pennington, Marshall. 1997: 12 39
Doug Williams, Grambling. 1977: 11 38
Byron Leftwich, Marshall. 2001: 12 38
Matt Leinart, Southern California. 2003: 13 38
Timmy Chang, Hawaii. 2004: 13 38
Troy Kopp, Pacific. 1991: 12 37
Tim Couch, Kentucky. 1997: 11 37
Chad Pennington, Marshall. 1999: 12 37
Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio). 2003: 14 37

Rod Rutherford, Pittsburgh. 2003: 13 37
Peyton Manning, Tennessee. 1997: 12 36
Shaun King, Tulane. 1998: 11 36
Tim Couch, Kentucky. 1998: 11 36
Drew Brees, Purdue. 1998: 12 36
Ty Detmer, Brigham Young. 1991: 12 35
Danny Wuerffel, Florida. 1995: 11 35
Tim Rattay, Louisiana Tech. 1999: 10 35
Bart Hendricks, Boise St. 2000: 11 35
Jason White, Oklahoma. 2004: 13 35
Dan Marino, Pittsburgh. 1981: 11 34
Chris Vargas, Nevada. 1993: 11 34
Tim Rattay, Louisiana Tech. 1997: 11 34
Tim Lester, Western Mich. 1999: 12 34
Nick Rolovich, Hawaii. 2001: 10 34
Rex Grossman, Florida. 2001: 11 34
Philip Rivers, North Carolina St. 2003: 13 34
Steve Young, Brigham Young. 1983: 11 33
Robbie Bosco, Brigham Young. 1984: 12 33
Mike Maxwell, Nevada. 1995: 9 33
Josh Wallwork, Wyoming. 1996: 12 33
Steve Sarkisian, Brigham Young. 1996: 14 33
Ryan Leaf, Washington St. 1997: 11 33
Chris Weinke, Florida St. 2000: 12 33
Brandon Doman, Brigham Young. 2001: 13 33
Carson Palmer, Southern California. 2002: 13 33
Dan Orlovsky, Connecticut. 2003: 12 33
J.P. Losman, Tulane. 2003: 12 33
Matt Leinart, Southern California. 2004: 13 33
Jerry Rhome, Tulsa. 1964: 10 32
Ty Detmer, Brigham Young. 1989: 12 32
Jimmy Klingler, Houston. 1992: 11 32
Danny Kanell, Florida St. 1995 11 32
Jason Martin, Louisiana Tech. 1996: 11 32
Jose Davis, Kent St. 1997: 10 32
Alex Smith, Utah. 2004: 12 32
Sonny Cumbie, Texas Tech. 2004: 12 32

Re: Omar's most manly figure

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:18 am
by edr4225
Where is bruce Gradkowski on that list? Oh hes not on there, thats too bad.
Schadenfreude wrote:
Media are starting to notice this record (and I assume we can thank J.D. for helping to point it out).
Your exactly right, the media is noticing Omar's touchdown ability, he just simply knows how to throw touchdowns and i people cant help to notice his yardage totals too. The way hes throwing the football right now, makes you think that he can and will break the single season td pass record. i cant wait for the fireworks on wednesday night, go falcons!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:23 am
by JimmyZ11381
Right, and what's almost just as impressive is the minimal number of INTs that he throws, which highlights his accuracy and good decision making ability

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 10:48 am
by Warthog
I think the TD-INT ratio is what sets Omar apart from most of the guys on that list. I wonder how INT's Klinger et al threw in their top TD seasons?

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:18 am
by Schadenfreude
Warthog wrote:I think the TD-INT ratio is what sets Omar apart from most of the guys on that list. I wonder how INT's Klinger et al threw in their top TD seasons?
Klingler's career at Houston:

91 touchdowns
38 interceptions
.577 completion rate.
138.1 passing efficiency.

Turning to efficiency as a measure... Klinger was good, but there have been better. Here are the all time career marks (min. 500 attempts):

Ryan Dinwiddie, Boise St. (2000-03): 168.9
Danny Wuerffel, Florida (1993-96): 163.6
Ty Detmer, Brigham Young (1988-91): 162.7
Steve Sarkisian, Brigham Young (1995-96): 162.0
Billy Blanton, San Diego St. (1993-96): 157.1

Omar had an efficiency rating of 167.2 last year, fourth in the nation.

So far for this season, Omar has a 170.7 efficiency rating.

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:41 am
by Falcon30
Wow...just wow.

Omar has had one "bad" game, too.

Posted: Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:20 pm
by FalconFanKM
I would just like to point out that Klingler threw 11 touchdowns in one game against Eastern Washington. It's in the NCAA record books... So I think that we should just let Omar throw the whole entire game... even if we win by 100.... they had to be running the score up for him to throw 11 touchdowns.... I mean come on...

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:04 am
by Schadenfreude
FalconFanKM wrote:I would just like to point out that Klingler threw 11 touchdowns in one game against Eastern Washington. It's in the NCAA record books... So I think that we should just let Omar throw the whole entire game... even if we win by 100.... they had to be running the score up for him to throw 11 touchdowns.... I mean come on...
Nice find.

It's fun to dig around on this.

Houston went 10-1 that year and finished ninth in the AP poll. Only loss was to Texas, a game that would have cost the Cougars the Southwest Conference title ... had they been eligible.

But Houston was not eligible. The NCAA had come down hard on them for
paying players, lacking institutional control, etc. throughout the late 1970s and early 80s.

So, anyway, yes, Houston hammered Eastern Washington 84-21 in their tenth game of the 1990 season.

The next game is even funnier. Houston was on probation and ineligible for a bowl game -- but they arranged to have their final game of the season, against Arizona State, moved to Tokyo, where it was billed as the "Coca-Cola Classic."

(Talk about the ARROGANCE! :ROFL: )

Here's more: A year earlier, Houston played Southern Methodist, which was in its first season after being dealt the "death penalty" and not playing football at all in 1987-88.

Final score?

Houston 95, Southern Methodist 21.

I believe Houston is also the last Division I-A team to ever score 100 points. (They beat Tulsa 100-6 in 1968.)

I miss the Southwest Conference. It enriched our national fabric... much in the same way Huey Long enriched our national fabric.

I wonder if Botox could recommend a good book on the SWC?

Posted: Sun Sep 18, 2005 10:10 am
by orangeandbrown
I think statistically Omar is the whole package....High TDs, low Int, high %, etc. On observation, I think he will translate well, but others might differ on how well.