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Crunching MAC Statistics
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:34 am
by sbrown
STAT#1 - Can't help but notice that the MAC is 10-20 in non-conference games, and with the addition of the mighty Owls next year, that stat will be even more bleak.
STAT#2 RE: Miami vs Cincinnati - the guys calling the game said that, in addition to Betts and Martin Nance, Miami also starts 4 seniors on the offensive line. Their little running back looks good but at 188 pounds, I wonder how durable he is going to be as the season goes on.
STAT#3 in only 3 games, BG has given up the 2nd most points of any team in the MAC with 135. Only Testes Tech has given up more (159).
STAT#4 UT has played 1 more game that BG, but has still outscored us by 72 points.
STAT#5 In DIV 1A - the MAC has 7 of the top 25 QB's in the nation in total passing yards.
MY ANAYSIS OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT, WHEN THE CONFERENCE GAMES BEGIN, MAC TEAMS ARE GOING TO BEAT UP ON EACH OTHER BUT NOBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO CARE. IT WILL BE A TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT.
Re: Crunching MAC Statistics
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 8:56 am
by Warthog
sbrown wrote:
STAT#4 UT has played 1 more game that BG, but has still outscored us by 72 points.
We may catch them on Saturday.

Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:08 am
by kdog27
"STAT#4 UT has played 1 more game that BG, but has still outscored us by 72 points."
I do not get the point of that.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:27 am
by UK Peregrine
kdog27 wrote:"STAT#4 UT has played 1 more game that BG, but has still outscored us by 72 points."
I do not get the point of that.
No offense, but I don't understand the whole premise of reporting random "stats".
Anyways, I believe the MAC is 10-21 OOC when I looked at Dave Ruthenberg's site this morning, not that one loss really matters much.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:42 am
by sbrown
kdog - My point was just that BG does not seem to have the best offense in the league, and our defense is one of the worst in the league.
uk peregrine - If you don't like stats, I suggest you don't read them. I happen to like to provide data to support my opinion. I'm a numbers guy.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:57 am
by transfer2BGSU
If TU has played one more game than us, doesn't it go to figure that they would have an opportunity to have scored more points than us?
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:18 am
by UK Peregrine
sbrown wrote:MY ANAYSIS OF ALL OF THIS IS THAT, WHEN THE CONFERENCE GAMES BEGIN, MAC TEAMS ARE GOING TO BEAT UP ON EACH OTHER BUT NOBODY ELSE IN THE COUNTRY IS GOING TO CARE. IT WILL BE A TEMPEST IN A TEAPOT.
uk peregrine - If you don't like stats, I suggest you don't read them. I happen to like to provide data to support my opinion. I'm a numbers guy.
I'm not trying to pick a fight here. I just don't see how the five stats you'e provided provide much support that the MAC has reached some parity level, let alone that "no one is going to care".
1. If you were to instead cite that Miami lost to CMU, CMU lost to EMU, EMU lost to UC, UC lost to Miami, so completeing this little circle. Then it appears to indicate some level of possible parity.
2. And continued by pointing out that NIU lost to Akron.
3. Ohio beat Pitt but just edged out KSU, whereas Miami convicingly beat KSU, so again possibly more parity.
4.Furthermore, BG played a close game with MAC BSU and got embarassed by WAC BSU.
5. UT got demolished by FSU while not playing anyone of real substance thus far.
Then I could see a point of the top tier MAC teams falling back and/or the middle tier moving up. From all indications thus far, the MAC season does indeed appear to be shaping up to be more interesting than usual. I would think that's a good thing. And if one team can set themselves apart form the crowd, then I would think they would look that much better to the national media. Anyways, sorry if a I came off a little to harsh, I just didn't see where the stats supported the opinion.
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:27 am
by sbrown
Great research! I agree with you that parity in the MAC is a good thing. It really is exciting to see the BG offense roll over the Directional Michigan's and all, but I would much rather watch a conference game played between evenly matched teams. Now that Marshall is out of the MAC, I can honestly say that I like all the teams in the league and always root for them when they play out of conference. Down the road, if OU can step up their program and Akron can keep up the momentum that seem to have, it could make for a really interesting league. Western Michigan has a storied football tradition and really wants to reclaim some of their lost prestige. Unfortunately, I cannot foresee Buffalo and Temple making any positive strides in the near future. Seems like they are doomed to be perpetual bottom feeders that MAC Football would be better off without.
Re: Crunching MAC Statistics
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:04 pm
by michhiker28
Warthog wrote:sbrown wrote:
STAT#4 UT has played 1 more game that BG, but has still outscored us by 72 points.
We may catch them on Saturday.

Beat me to it WH
Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:32 pm
by sbrown
Great research! I agree with you that parity in the MAC is a good thing. It really is exciting to see the BG offense roll over the Directional Michigan's and all, but I would much rather watch a conference game played between evenly matched teams. Now that Marshall is out of the MAC, I can honestly say that I like all the teams in the league and always root for them when they play out of conference. Down the road, if OU can step up their program and Akron can keep up the momentum that seem to have, it could make for a really interesting league. Western Michigan has a storied football tradition and really wants to reclaim some of their lost prestige. Unfortunately, I cannot foresee Buffalo and Temple making any positive strides in the near future. Seems like they are doomed to be perpetual bottom feeders that MAC Football would be better off without.