These boards...

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:42 pm

You know, we sure do fret about a lot of innocuous BS on these boards... what color unis we do/should wear, Falcon logos, what makes a true fan, the Buckeyes, people not giving us props, what color the railings should be in the Doyt...Sometimes after reading some of the posts on this board, I feel like going shopping or eating chocolates or breaking into a Rodgers and Hammerstein diddy...Not that there's anything wrong with that!

DevilGrad · Post by **DevilGrad** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 4:44 pm

As long as you don't succumb to the urge to dress up like Barbra Streisand and go sing "People" at karaoke night, I think you'll be okay.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:59 pm

Hey while you bring up whining, can I bitch about something?

I am tired of seeing that same commercial from 2002 (or 03?) every time we are on TV. It's not even a good commercial. It couldn't be that much work to get a new one out there. Not sure if this was ever mentioned previously but that commercial sucks.

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:27 pm

The Hills are alive...Whoops! Sorry.

I do have to agree...It is especially stupid b/c it shows that one kind with a beaker swirling it around with the voice over of some sort of "scientific breakthrough." Uh...Last I check, BG wasn't a research institution.

PGY Tiercel · Post by **PGY Tiercel** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:00 pm

CapitalFalcon wrote:The Hills are alive...Whoops! Sorry.

I do have to agree...It is especially stupid b/c it shows that one kind with a beaker swirling it around with the voice over of some sort of "scientific breakthrough." Uh...Last I check, BG wasn't a research institution.

Biologically, you're mostly right. No great big medical breakthrough will come from BG, at least not in the Biology deparment. Chemistry and Physics have great departments in photochemical science and if I remember some good cancer biochem.

Also for those high school geeks watching football games, that is a potential big sell. Undergraduate research is a nice CV boost when applying for grad school. It may not be a "breakthrough" but a publication as an undergrad is a big gold star. My interviews at UK were a breeze when I told them I did research in two labs.

OK, off the soap box, I will agree that some new commercials are in need.

FliccGirl · Post by **FliccGirl** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:04 pm

PGY Tiercel wrote: I will agree that some new commercials are in need.

Of course, with the current one, you get the added entertainment value of watching the entire band sing along. In falsetto.

(Also-- there's no way that kid with the beaker is in any lab on BG's campus. The room he's in is waaaay too clean and sunshiney. The labs in Overman and especially the Physical Science building are SCARY.)

I don't think it's a bad commercial, but it's been the only one for quite a while now.

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:21 pm

No offense to any of the Science grads out there, but other than Psych, and more specifically, I/O Psych, I don't really believe that BG's scientific research chops are on par with Johns Hopkins, Duke, Chicago, Case, Pitt, etc. Am I wrong?

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 4:22 am

I think the commercial we have is very skillfully produced.

The problem I have with a lot of these commercials is they all manage to say very little. I've seen commercials for Miami and owa State recently -- and either one could have easily been interchanged with Bowling Green.

Every university, it seems, gives students personal attention (even Ohio State

). They are "learning environments for excellence." Blah, blah, blah...

But, again, if our commercial isn't saying a whole lot, at least it looks and sounds good.

Some of you young 'uns won't remember, but the university aired a commercial during the 1992 Bowling Green-Ohio State game on ABC that was positively embarassing.

It consisted of students looking into the camera in a certain setting and then exclaiming -- as cheerfully as possible -- the buzzword/attribute/point Bowling Green was trying to make.

The scene I will never forget -- for as long as I live -- was a couple of innocent Bowling Green students standing next to an Interstate 75 shield as they looked into the camera.

"CONVENIENCE!" they said.

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* The spot was probably originally produced for the 1991 California Bowl, but I didn't see that game on TV.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 7:37 am

Schadenfreude wrote: It consisted of students looking into the camera in a certain setting and then exclaiming -- as cheerfully as possible -- the buzzword/attribute/point Bowling Green was trying to make.

The scene I will never forget -- for as long as I live -- was a couple of innocent Bowling Green students standing next to an Interstate 75 shield as they looked into the camera.

"CONVENIENCE!" they said.

ACK! I remember that! It was beyond embarassing. My face was frozen in perplexed horror for a good 5-10 minutes after viewing that spot. My GF at the time was ready to take me to the ER.

Gads.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 10:43 am

Yeah that commercial has got to go....come on one of the main features is the Maison de Francais or whatever the French House is referred to as...and how bout that depressed kid sitting in the satnds by himself...boy that opens us up to outside abuse "Look it's BG's only fan" etc etc.

Personally my favorite commerical is for the Motor City Bowl because me and the son are in it...he's the very young Orange jersey #1 sitting on top of my shoulders ...it was taken the moment one of the 4Q touchdowns was scored in 2003!
Look for it to be replayed at the home games.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:04 am

JohnnySwoop '85 wrote:Yeah that commercial has got to go....come on one of the main features is the Maison de Francais or whatever the French House is referred to as...and how bout that depressed kid sitting in the satnds by himself...boy that opens us up to outside abuse "Look it's BG's only fan" etc etc.

What you dislike, I like.

The French House is uniquely Bowling Green. It's something BGSU can offer that other universities don't have and it communicates the liberal arts spin on what BGSU tries to do.

And that kid in the stadium isn't depressed. It's sort of an "imagine the possibilities" moment. More than once, I sat in the empty stadium myself just to sort of think. It's nice to do once in a while.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:06 am

Schadenfreude wrote:More than once, I sat in the empty stadium myself just to sort of think. It's nice to do once in a while.

There's a joke to be made here about the Ankney era ...

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:17 am

1987alum wrote:Ankney era ...

No, that's the punchline.

CURSE YOU MO ANKNEY!

FliccGirl · Post by **FliccGirl** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 11:23 am

Schadenfreude wrote:And that kid in the stadium isn't depressed. It's sort of an "imagine the possibilities" moment. More than once, I sat in the empty stadium myself just to sort of think. It's nice to do once in a while.

I agree. The stadium when it's empty, especially at night, is one of the most amazing places on campus for reflection.

UK Peregrine · Post by **UK Peregrine** » Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:08 pm

CapitalFalcon wrote:No offense to any of the Science grads out there, but other than Psych, and more specifically, I/O Psych, I don't really believe that BG's scientific research chops are on par with Johns Hopkins, Duke, Chicago, Case, Pitt, etc. Am I wrong?

Your list of schools consist of Research Extensive institutions, whereas BG is a Research Intensive school. When it comes to doctoral granting institutions, research Intensive schools usually have to award 50 or more doctoral degress acroos at least 15 disciplines (BG offers 16). Whereas John Hopkins, Duke, Chicago and Case all fall into research extensive schools because they award at least ten doctoral degrees per year across three or more disciplines. They have very tailored programs toward medical research, which makes it very easy for them to justify getting high-powered grants from NIH, NSF and other granting agencies. They are all top-notch medical research institutions.

BG on the otherhand, obviously does not have a medical college, so they are at a disadvantage when it comes to science/medical grants with the schools you mentioned, plus throw in Harvard, MIT, Stanford, Columbia, Cornell and Penn into the mix along with the mega-institutions (Michigan, USC, Washington, and Wisconsin) and you can see why we may have trouble competing in the mediucal sciences without a med. school.

To be fair though, BG doesn't claim to be any of these schools. What we do claim is to provided great educational opportunities in the sciences at a smaller scale. Our work is just a publishable and fundable as the next school's, it's just usually done on a smaller scale. In fact, photochemical sciences, as PGY mentioned has nailed downed quite a few grants and seems to be poised to moving into the upper-echelon of research. The state of Ohio recently gave BG 2 million dollars to fund the Center for Photochemical Sciences. And ceratin faculty over there have grants well over $600,000. BG does a nice job of being BG, by getting grants in the fields that we can do well in. It not about the Jones, its really about doing what's best for BG and our students.