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We have the worst special teams in the history of organized football period.
(Hopefully they will improve just as the defense has.)


The PA announcer was up to old tricks...............being bad.


What was up with no music over load speaker after plays tonight. The band is clueless, plays when OU gets first downs or when we get a one yard gain.


What is injury status on PJ and Culp?????

At least the first down falcon screech was back.....unless that was Noah =)

04forheisman wrote:What was up with no music over load speaker after plays tonight.

No media timeouts this week. So they didn't have to fill time during the breaks. Did you notice how them were cramming announcements in whenever a play was stopped for an injury?

Our punt formation is well...very very very stupid. Week in and week out every school that uses this style gets blocked....might as well try a pass coverage with one DB...the result would be the same.

other than that...I was impressed with the turn out considering the break and all. lots of tail gating and heck when a worker offers you a trashbag for your tail gate site that is just good.

One jerk driving like 50 past the hill where the kids were playing...if I had been facing as he came on i would thrown a beer through his windshield...dumbass...

final feeling...if we are to beat Toledo....twice potentially...we will have step up some more between now and then.

MACMAN wrote:Our punt formation is well...very very very stupid. Week in and week out every school that uses this style gets blocked....

we've had two (maybe three?) punts blocked in the last four years. They just happen to both have come in the last three games.

Speaking of attendance how was it? Coach Brandon said that he was surprised that so many people showed up considering it was fall break.
Was it anything compared to last week? Last week was amazing.

My feeling is yes...but No...the yes being a strong Comunity showing just like last week but far fewer students (as expected). The Stadium clearly was not near full, but filled nicely...if last week had what 22k...this game was most likely 14k or more from what I could see that is EAst looking west.

so much for Ohio bringing a lot of people...

Tricky_Falcon wrote:Speaking of attendance how was it? Coach Brandon said that he was surprised that so many people showed up considering it was fall break.
Was it anything compared to last week? Last week was amazing.

14,000+ according to the box score on the AP wire.

TG1996 wrote:

MACMAN wrote:Our punt formation is well...very very very stupid. Week in and week out every school that uses this style gets blocked....

we've had two (maybe three?) punts blocked in the last four years. They just happen to both have come in the last three games.

look at the schools who have the most punts blocked...they all have one thing in comon....the stupid punt formation..
It is ineffective and here is why...
If your front in this formation consistantly allows two rushers through to the rear wall, the momentum of those rushers will push the wall back into the kicker 1, 2 allow for the rush to use his speed for more verticle to blck the punt, and 3 in a tradional punt formation the only place the rush can from, assuming all blocks are made, is from the outside, and by the time those rushes make the turn and move to block the ball is gone. not to mention from the kickers perspective I am sure there is nothing like trying to get the ball up in a hurry over top three dudes who are moving toward you backwards....

Actually, they blocked one and partially blocked another day.

I concur. Special teams are the worst in college football.

When Urban was here, he used to say that we weren't going to have the best offense in the country, and we weren't going to have the best defense in the country, but nothing was stopping us from having the best special teams in the country. And they were good. Blocked kicks galore, we were dominant. I remember that magical UT game his first season, when they got a big run back (UT did ), and the next time we kicked off, Meyer was in their huddle, face red, screaming. And we clocked the dude inside the 20.

Well, things aren't like that now. Our special teams are an embarassment, and kept an OU team in the game after we were completing dominating them while they had the ball. Add them up:

* Fumbled reverse on opening KO return.
* Two Blocked punts, one for TD.
* Missed FG
* Brain fart where no one touches a pooched kick, and they recover.
* At least two kickoff returns out near mid-field.


There's no way around it. The special teams were keeping OU in the game. The defense bailed them out on the first drive when the goal line stand held, and when OU got the pooch kick near the end of the first half, they were about to score and make it 14-14 (and a huge momentum boost) when Jelani got the INT on the goal line.

Something has to be done. We can beat OU like this, but we aren't going to beat UT, Miami, or win a bowl game. Kicking off, returning a kickoff, or punting simply cannot be this big an adventure.

I don't understand the rationale behind our punt formation. We're using the three-man wall in front of Nate, which is supposed to afford better protection...yet, he's been blocked before this year. I want to see us get back to the regular formation. We never had this many problems before.

One of two things is culprit here. Either, we are not devoting enough practice time to the special teams, or lousy coaching by John Bowers.

Either way, ultimately, well-coached football teams are good on special teams. Enough said.

BGSUVA wrote:so much for Ohio bringing a lot of people...

They seemed to bring a whole lot more than Temple. It wasn't a huge showing, but better than some schools (Eastern Michigan, Kent State) do.

14,000-plus sounds about dead on. It was a good community showing -- but there just weren't that many students there at all.

In fact, this is the first game I can remember where the East stands (my side) seemed more full than the West side. Anyone else notice that?

That told the story right there. If this hadn't been fall break, we would have had the same sized crowd as last week, I think.

I'm optimistic we'll have better crowds from here on out.

orangeandbrown wrote:Actually, they blocked one and partially blocked another day.

That must have been where the 29 yarder late came from. I wondered about that.

Kick coverage and kick returns are what concern me, if anything right now. But I'll let it concern me during the week, right now I'm still enjoying the performance by the defense and a key MAC East hurdle overcome.

(I swear, sometimes I think some of you guys could be given a free house for Christmas and complain that the shutters are the wrong color. )

04forheisman wrote: What was up with no music over load speaker after plays tonight. The band is clueless, plays when OU gets first downs or when we get a one yard gain.

We play between plays. It's not always celebratory. Would you rather the band sit stoically and do nothing until after tremendously good plays?

Ohio probably brought around 200 or so fans, I'd guess.

And yeah, I definitely noticed (and thought it was odd) that the west side seemed to have fewer people than the east. Interesting.

04forheisman wrote: The band is clueless, plays when OU gets first downs or when we get a one yard gain.

The athletic department gives the band a script of what is happening and that tells us when we can play. We can't play over announcements, if you want more of the band then e-mail someone and tell him to have less announcements. I thought we played more then last game.