Omar stock

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:25 pm

Well I have not been following the boards closely, so please for give me if this has been posted. Omar is listed as the 4th ranked qb, 1. Matty, 2, Young, 3. Cutler 4. Jacobs
here is the article and then the link to the site.
Omar Jacobs

2006 NFL Draft Prospects

from Michael E. Modahl

Positional Rankings: QB RB FB WR TE OT OG C - DE DT ILB OLB S CB - K P

Position: Quarterback

School: Bowling Green

Status: Junior

Height: 6-4

Weight: 225

40-Yard Dash: 4.55 (EST)

Positives:
I am not going to waste any time in saying that I absolutely love Jacobs and prefer him over Matt Leinart. Jacobs will be a better NFL quarterback. He has a huge arm, good vision, and great mobility. He has gotten the most out of the marginal talent that he has around him.
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He threw for 41 touchdowns as a sophomore and ranked third nationally in pass efficiency. Has shattered all kinds of conference records while still a young quarterback. Also does very well in the classroom, a testament to his dedication on and off the field.

Negatives:
While I find very few aspects of his game that do not translate into NFL success, it must at least be mentioned that he has not played against consistent top-flight competition. Only games against Miami and Wisconsin this season would be considered as good, hard-nosed college football defenses.

Overview:
Considering that Jacobs completed 30-of-51 passes for a career-best 458 yards and five touchdowns against Wisconsin, it would be safe to say that that the competition argument is a moot point. Jacobs has done all that he can with the team and the players that surround him. He has all the tools necessary to be great in the NFL, even though the learning curve may take a little longer.

Although I see Jacobs as a solid first-round selection, he probably will not go until the second or third. But whoever lands him will be landing a franchise quarterback.
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This sounds good for Omar, and I am happy for him.

rollalongFF0304 · Post by **rollalongFF0304** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:42 pm

MACMAN wrote:I am not going to waste any time in saying that I absolutely love Jacobs and prefer him over Matt Leinart. Jacobs will be a better NFL quarterback. He has a huge arm, good vision, and great mobility. He has gotten the most out of the marginal talent that he has around him.

Marginal talent? Come on.

Though I also prefer Omar over Matt Leinart. For that matter, I prefer a dump truck full of butterscotch pudding over Matt Leinart.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:45 pm

rollalongFF0304 wrote:
MACMAN wrote:I am not going to waste any time in saying that I absolutely love Jacobs and prefer him over Matt Leinart. Jacobs will be a better NFL quarterback. He has a huge arm, good vision, and great mobility. He has gotten the most out of the marginal talent that he has around him.
Marginal talent? Come on.

Though I also prefer Omar over Matt Leinart. For that matter, I prefer a dump truck full of butterscotch pudding over Matt Leinart.

I stopped reading after the marginal talent comment. It's great that he likes Omar, but I think it's pretty obvious he didn't follow us very closely so his opinion likely means little to anyone.

As I've stated many times along with many others, Leinart will be a Bigger-than-Boller NFL bust.

turtle · Post by **turtle** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:46 pm

mmmm... butterscotch

factman · Post by **factman** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:48 pm

I thought he looked pretty good at Oklahoma last year too!

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:51 pm

When it comes to scouting Omar to the NFL I think it's fair to say that he was surrounded by pretty marginal talent.

Pope has an outside shot as a 3rd down back...he's got almost no upside, doesn't have NFL speed.

Sharon is way too small for anything more than a PR/KR.

Sanders has the size & body for the NFL, he'll need to impress, he's the most likely (IMO) to make it as an NFL player.

Our OL is good by MAC standards, but would doubt if more than 1 of them ever sees an NFL final 53.

When looking at Omar as an NFL prospect, our talent level is pretty marginal. It's good for the MAC, and good enough to compete with any other college teams, but it's still not top flight talent.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 4:57 pm

He was trying to judge Omar's NFL prospects, but it was in the context of his college performance. On a college basis, our offensive talent was far from marginal IMO.

rollalongFF0304 · Post by **rollalongFF0304** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 5:03 pm

hammb wrote:When it comes to scouting Omar to the NFL I think it's fair to say that he was surrounded by pretty marginal talent.

Pope has an outside shot as a 3rd down back...he's got almost no upside, doesn't have NFL speed.

Sharon is way too small for anything more than a PR/KR.

Sanders has the size & body for the NFL, he'll need to impress, he's the most likely (IMO) to make it as an NFL player.

Our OL is good by MAC standards, but would doubt if more than 1 of them ever sees an NFL final 53.

When looking at Omar as an NFL prospect, our talent level is pretty marginal. It's good for the MAC, and good enough to compete with any other college teams, but it's still not top flight talent.

I was including the players from both of Omar's years. Scott M. and Cole were two offhand that we forget about.

You don't get two all-time reception record holders, several repeat all-MAC selections, and a handful of NFL contracts from marginal talent.

JohnnySwoop '85 · Post by **JohnnySwoop '85** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 6:35 pm

Where's the Toledo lurkers to take umbrage with the "only Miami and Wisconsin" comment.

BGSU33 · Post by **BGSU33** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 7:32 pm

JohnnySwoop '85 wrote:Where's the Toledo lurkers to take umbrage with the "only Miami and Wisconsin" comment.

Yeah, and along with Toledo, Boise State wasn't a cupcake either. Hell, we torched Wisonsin's defense, it was Buffalo's defense that gave us the biggest fits. They even picked Omar off twice.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 8:22 pm

rollalongFF0304 wrote:
You don't get two all-time reception record holders, several repeat all-MAC selections, and a handful of NFL contracts from marginal talent.

Sounds pretty marginal to me. We're happy about a handful of NFL contracts and 1 other draftable player around him (Scott M.) When you're comparing him to other NFL prospects (which we are now) you're thinking of QBs such as Leinart, Vince Young, Cutler, DJ Shockley, etc. When it comes to surrounding talent only Cutler has a worst supporting cast than Omar of the QBs that he'll be competing with for draft slotting.

Omar's competing for time in the big spotlight now. When the best thing you can say is a "handful of NFL contracts" I think that qualifies as marginal from an outsider's view. Let's face it most of the guys from the big time top 25 BCS programs will have nearly everyone of their supporting cast getting a camp invite, and probably multiple guys drafted.

h2oville rocket · Post by **h2oville rocket** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:42 pm

JohnnySwoop '85 wrote:Where's the Toledo lurkers to take umbrage with the "only Miami and Wisconsin" comment.

Hey! i take umbrage at that "only Miami and Wisconsin" comment! We held you to 30 some points!

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Wed Jan 25, 2006 10:57 pm

hammb wrote:
rollalongFF0304 wrote:
You don't get two all-time reception record holders, several repeat all-MAC selections, and a handful of NFL contracts from marginal talent.
Sounds pretty marginal to me. We're happy about a handful of NFL contracts and 1 other draftable player around him (Scott M.) When you're comparing him to other NFL prospects (which we are now) you're thinking of QBs such as Leinart, Vince Young, Cutler, DJ Shockley, etc. When it comes to surrounding talent only Cutler has a worst supporting cast than Omar of the QBs that he'll be competing with for draft slotting.

Omar's competing for time in the big spotlight now. When the best thing you can say is a "handful of NFL contracts" I think that qualifies as marginal from an outsider's view. Let's face it most of the guys from the big time top 25 BCS programs will have nearly everyone of their supporting cast getting a camp invite, and probably multiple guys drafted.

Spot on, hammb. That's the view without the orange-colored glasses. I love our Falcons, but when you're in the rarified air of first-day draft picks, the competition is tough.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 12:02 am

Our coaches have done a hell of job to get so much out os such mediocre talent...

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Jan 26, 2006 8:43 am

Flipper wrote:Our coaches have done a hell of job to get so much out os such mediocre talent...

Touché...although I'm not yet conceding that. I think our talent level is exceptional for the MAC. I think our talent level is probably in the 40-75 range of overall college teams. However, when you compare that to the top 20 or so programs, it looks marginal. Omar is now putting himself in the limelight, and will be compared to players on the top tier teams.

One thing that I think a LOT of us are forgetting, as well, is how much better a superstar QB can make his surrounding cast look. We've had NFL draft pick worthy QBs for the past 4 years now. We're spoiled in that regard. If you put an average MAC QB back there (which I hope we never have to) our backs & receivers don't look nearly as good, I'll bet. I'm not saying our guys aren't good, because they clearly are, but they might not look quite as good if they hadn't played 4 years with superstar QBs.

Just thinking about that makes me think how fortunate we've been...we've played 4 seasons now with a STAR at QB. Hopefully AT can keep that streak up...

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