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I have not been around to much lately or on the net, I am sorry if this story has been posted
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2006/pro ... acobs.html

the story
"Omar Jacobs QB 6’4 226 Bowling Green Jr.
By: Robert Davis

In his first year as a starter, Omar Jacobs had one of the greatest years of any quarterback in college football history. He completed 66.9% of his passes for 4,002 yards, and 41 touchdowns. The most impressive stat though, was that he only threw 4 interceptions on 462 passes. The 41 touchdowns led the nation, and was also a MAC record. The 41/4 TD/INT ratio is the best ever in Division 1A. He’s not just a pure pocket passer either. Jacobs managed to rush for 300 yards and 4 more scores. He racked up quite a few post season awards for his awesome sophomore season. Omar was named to various All-American lists, was voted MVP of the GMAC Bowl, and was named MAC offensive player of the year.

Jacobs is the complete package at quarterback. He’s tall, strong, and athletic. He has a very good arm, and can easily make all the throws. His mobility is very impressive too. When things break down, he can leave the pocket and throw on the run, or tuck it and make something happen with his feet. He has displayed poise in the pocket, though at times he has left the pocket a little early.

There really aren’t too many flaws in Jacobs’ game. The biggest is his throwing mechanics, specifically his release point. Jacobs releases the ball at about shoulder height. He doesn’t get the ball up high enough. He negates his height advantage by throwing the ball that low, and it will result in tipped passes in the NFL. The only other issue would possibly be his experience, as he's a redshirt junior, and this is only his second season as a starter.

Omar Jacobs is the latest in the line of MAC QB’s to develop into big time NFL prospects. He will need some coaching in the NFL to fix his mechanics, but other than that, he has everything needed to be a star at the next level. The sky is the limit both in terms of potential and in draft stock. He probably is not looking at a top 5 pick this year because of Matt Leinart’s presence at the quarterback spot, but he is a legit first round prospect. It might be wise for him to stay for his senior year to work on his mechanics at the college level, but when it comes down to it, that guaranteed money is hard to turn down. "

i have not seen anything eles that is new to me about his prospect lately and I have to think his stock is rising. this is the first article i have seen that has been realistic reguarding his abilities. i aslo wonder if Ben in the XL has not helped boost all MAC stock...the over looked mid majors.

If Jacobs can run a good (4.6) forty he MAYBE could go 2nd round, but I don't see him going any earlier than 3rd.

and that is great!!! That could land on any number of teams looking ahead a couple of years to their next QB, a perfect situation for Omar.

I hate to be negative here, because I really want Omar to be drafted as high as possible, but you or I could have made this scouting report up. I guess I didn't read up on the history of this person who developed the website, but what type of creditability does he/she have?

I can name a major flaw in Omar's game that they missed. He hasn't been in a pro-style offense or played in an offense where he will need to do the audible himself, rather than looking back at the sideline for an audible.

BGDrew, running a 40 time is probably the least concern. Everybody knows he has athletic ability. The question is, can he drop back from under center and make all the throws on a consistent basis? That's the big concern, that I'm sure he is currently working on in Florida.

dduncan wrote: I can name a major flaw in Omar's game that they missed. He hasn't been in a pro-style offense or played in an offense where he will need to do the audible himself, rather than looking back at the sideline for an audible.

BGDrew, running a 40 time is probably the least concern. Everybody knows he has athletic ability. The question is, can he drop back from under center and make all the throws on a consistent basis? That's the big concern, that I'm sure he is currently working on in Florida.

Bingo!

His biggest knock will always be the ability to dropback and throw from a 3, 5, or 7 step drop. The next biggest question is his intelligence. He hasn't played in a prostyle offense and the coaching staff didn't have confidence in him to call his own audibles. Was that their own hubris, or was he not capable? Either way it's a question he'll have to answer.

The biggest thing I want to know about Omar is the wonderlic score. He'll have to prove his ability to drop in workouts, and that will be little consolation for most teams until they can actually get him in camp. With our offensive system he really could've benefitted from playing in the senior bowl or similar all star game to get NFL coaching and play an NFL system for at least a week. Unfortunately, he wasn't a senior...

Maybe I'm wrong, but this article also looks to be more of a pre season rather than post season (05) article. There is no mention of his being injured, for example, nor any stats from the past season... As to Omar's chances in the draft, didn't even HE say he'd been told about the 3rd round? Obviously, if he does well in the combine and impresses the scouts and coaches there, his stock will rise. But this article seems a bit outdated IMO.

You're right in that he didn't play in a pro-style offense and he didn't take snaps from under center in college, but I think you're putting too much weight in that. One of the top prospects in the draft, Vince Young, played in a shotgun built around his strength....running. No one seems to care about that though because of his athleticism. Alex Smith played in a shotgun spread-option offense at Utah, but he went #1 overall anyway because everything else about him seemed perfect. Basically, it's obviously not an advantage over a guy like Matt Leinart that has, but if you have the gifts that the NFL is looking for in a QB, they are willing to work with QBs on transitioning to an NFL-style offense. Omar definently needs to make the most of the Combine though because as I type this, Charlie Whitehurst and Brodie Croyle have really made cases to move in ahead of him after Leinart, Young and Cutler.

You're right in that he didn't play in a pro-style offense and he didn't take snaps from under center in college, but I think you're putting too much weight in that. One of the top prospects in the draft, Vince Young, played in a shotgun built around his strength....running. No one seems to care about that though because of his athleticism. Alex Smith played in a shotgun spread-option offense at Utah, but he went #1 overall anyway because everything else about him seemed perfect. Basically, it's obviously not an advantage over a guy like Matt Leinart that has, but if you have the gifts that the NFL is looking for in a QB, they are willing to work with QBs on transitioning to an NFL-style offense. Omar definently needs to make the most of the Combine though because as I type this, Charlie Whitehurst and Brodie Croyle have really made cases to move in ahead of him after Leinart, Young and Cutler.

I think part of what you say is correct with Young. But Young is a superior athlete to Omar, in almost every phase of the game. Alex Smith had questions about throwing under center squashed right after his personal workout in front of scouts where he showed that he could make all the throws, from under center. Not only did he make all the throws, he didn't miss anything that was asked of him during the workout.

However, after watching him struggle badly, some scouts will wonder how well a player can adjust to the pro-style offense. Of course, it didn't help that he played for the 49ers. But if you looked at some of the games Smith played, he was lost and looked overmatched, mentally and physically.

dduncan wrote:

You're right in that he didn't play in a pro-style offense and he didn't take snaps from under center in college, but I think you're putting too much weight in that. One of the top prospects in the draft, Vince Young, played in a shotgun built around his strength....running. No one seems to care about that though because of his athleticism. Alex Smith played in a shotgun spread-option offense at Utah, but he went #1 overall anyway because everything else about him seemed perfect. Basically, it's obviously not an advantage over a guy like Matt Leinart that has, but if you have the gifts that the NFL is looking for in a QB, they are willing to work with QBs on transitioning to an NFL-style offense. Omar definently needs to make the most of the Combine though because as I type this, Charlie Whitehurst and Brodie Croyle have really made cases to move in ahead of him after Leinart, Young and Cutler.

I think part of what you say is correct with Young. But Young is a superior athlete to Omar, in almost every phase of the game. Alex Smith had questions about throwing under center squashed right after his personal workout in front of scouts where he showed that he could make all the throws, from under center. Not only did he make all the throws, he didn't miss anything that was asked of him during the workout.

However, after watching him struggle badly, some scouts will wonder how well a player can adjust to the pro-style offense. Of course, it didn't help that he played for the 49ers. But if you looked at some of the games Smith played, he was lost and looked overmatched, mentally and physically.

I know Young is far superior to Omar athletically and that Alex Smith struggled. All it took was watching a Sportscenter highlight when he played to see that lol But he's young so who knows, he might pick up the pro game soon enough. I'm just saying that if he impresses someone in workouts, they would be willing to work with him, so the knock that he hasn't taken snaps from under center is kind of overrated so long as the guy is talented and can play the pro game, and I think Omar is just that. If he has a good Combine, I expect him to go sometime in the 2nd ahead of Whitehurst and Croyle. Croyle is terrible overhyped right now but when it comes to it, he's shorter at 6'2, skinny, marginal arm strength for the next level, and 2 ACLs already. Whitehurst is just chronically inconsistent.

hammb wrote:

dduncan wrote:
The biggest thing I want to know about Omar is the wonderlic score. ..

I wouldn't put too much stock into that. Didn't Dan Marino get like a15 and Alex Smith had a 40 something, which would you rather have?

saves wrote:

hammb wrote:

dduncan wrote:
The biggest thing I want to know about Omar is the wonderlic score. ..

I wouldn't put too much stock into that.

NFL executives will. It means a whole lot more to them know than it did 20 years ago. Especially when it's a big question mark on a player.

I think he goes mid 3rd to early 4th. Just my opinion.

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:

saves wrote:

hammb wrote:

dduncan wrote:
The biggest thing I want to know about Omar is the wonderlic score. ..

I wouldn't put too much stock into that.

NFL executives will. It means a whole lot more to them know than it did 20 years ago. Especially when it's a big question mark on a player.

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Check out this list. We have a good mixture of starters and nobodys with high and low scores. I don't think there is direct connection between wonderlic score and success.

Poor Mel is confused on Omar:

If Omar Jacobs has a good permformance at the scouting combine...where do you see him go in the draft?

MEL KIPER
He's a difficult evaluation for me as well. He has that unorthodox delivery. When you look at Jacobs, this year wasn't as good as last year. The release does cause some concern for me. He's not the athlete that Young is. With Jacobs, he's going to give me the biggest challenge to give a grade.

saves wrote:

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:

saves wrote:

hammb wrote:

dduncan wrote:
The biggest thing I want to know about Omar is the wonderlic score. ..

I wouldn't put too much stock into that.

NFL executives will. It means a whole lot more to them know than it did 20 years ago. Especially when it's a big question mark on a player.

http://www.macmirabile.com/Wonderlic/Wonderlic.htm

Check out this list. We have a good mixture of starters and nobodys with high and low scores. I don't think there is direct connection between wonderlic score and success.

Very true -- but we're not talking about success. We're talking about draft position. 40 times don't always translate to success for wide receivers, but they sure will move your draft position up if you post a good one. Same thing with the Wonderlic and QB's.

GM's will be particularly interested in Omar's score because of A: the offense we ran, and B: The audible system we used.