Rule Changes for '07-'08

[SaxyIrishTenor]

Just shut up.

Directed towards people talking during the anthem, or people who say people should stand?

...or both?

Just the talkers. The other guys are entitled to their opinion, since it doesn't infringe my rights.

[The Niz]

#6

[Falcon Fanatic]

Just to clarify my original post about players moving during the National Anthem, I wasn't criticizing players, but in fact I have always found it highly amusing that many players can't stand still and have their feet shuffling forward and back on the ice. It shows how much they can't wait for the game to get started! And fwiw, I remember very few players over the years that were disrespectful in any way during the playing of the NA regardless of where they come from. Most US players look up to the flag (but not all of them) and most Canadian players just look down. Like someone said, I think they all are in their "pre-game brain zone" at that moment!! I just found it funny that the NCAA had to point out a rule about it!! It makes me wonder what some one did to make them feel they had to address the issue....er...non-issue!!

[bigdog]

I will give everyone a little insight from a player.
It has nothing to do with being American or Canadian, I do the same thing no matter what anthem is playing. It is just a continuation from the pre- game rituals or superstitions. Lots if not most player have rituals they do before every game and have done before everygame in the past, no one is trying to dissrespect anythign, its just getting ready for the game and pre-game rituals are a huge part.
Just a little heads up to how I have pointed out in the past about probelms with coach. One thing I said before is he cares to much about the little things. Before the league ever brought this up we would get lectures in the dressingroom before games about standing still and if you didn't you wouldn't play. waste of time, and clearly not focused on the right things before game. Just let the players play. This shouldn't even be an issue

[MACMAN]

This shouldn't even be an issue[/quote]
ya no s**t as a guy who played lots of sports and served his country and knows all about rituals...save them for before or after not durring. coach was doing the right the thing
stand still

[goofyeuph]

I understand, and have no problem what so ever with Pre-game rituals, traditions, nervous twitches. Myself personally, I could never stand still prior to the attention whistle and taking the field in marching band. However, if that is the case, I would much rather see Pre-game being re-arranged slightly so that the National Anthem is performed prior to the teams taking the ice for face off.

[The Niz]

I will give everyone a little insight from a player.
It has nothing to do with being American or Canadian, I do the same thing no matter what anthem is playing. It is just a continuation from the pre- game rituals or superstitions. Lots if not most player have rituals they do before every game and have done before everygame in the past, no one is trying to dissrespect anythign, its just getting ready for the game and pre-game rituals are a huge part.
Just a little heads up to how I have pointed out in the past about probelms with coach. One thing I said before is he cares to much about the little things. Before the league ever brought this up we would get lectures in the dressingroom before games about standing still and if you didn't you wouldn't play. waste of time, and clearly not focused on the right things before game. Just let the players play. This shouldn't even be an issue

I told this story to ms. fanatic when I ran into her at Kroger with goofy the other day; My gf worked at Tim Hortons for a while during the school year. She comes home one day to tell me how one of the hockey players (we couldn't figure out who) stopped in and tried to ask her out. She reads the hockey forum once in a while, and because of all the complaining that some former players do on here, all she had to say to the guy was this: If you would quit pissing and moaning about your coach and just play, I might consider talking to you. She was the goalie for JFK high in taylor Mi, so it is not just some stupid comment from a girl. No one wants to listen to a guy who lost the majority of his games complain about his coaching. All anyone wants is to watch their team go out and give it their all, no excuses, just play.

[ShaneFalco]

I told this story to ms. fanatic when I ran into her at Kroger with goofy the other day; My gf worked at Tim Hortons for a while during the school year. She comes home one day to tell me how one of the hockey players (we couldn't figure out who) stopped in and tried to ask her out. She reads the hockey forum once in a while, and because of all the complaining that some former players do on here, all she had to say to the guy was this: If you would quit pissing and moaning about your coach and just play, I might consider talking to you. She was the goalie for JFK high in taylor Mi, so it is not just some stupid comment from a girl. No one wants to listen to a guy who lost the majority of his games complain about his coaching. All anyone wants is to watch their team go out and give it their all, no excuses, just play.

That's hilarious.... please find out who it was that went to Tim Horton's to hit on your girlfriend.

[jg4242]

#6

Mr. T. says: "I pity the fool who doesn't like #6!"

[bigdog]

I second Shanefalco's response, hahaha, that is sooo funny.
Don't worry the reponse that your GF gave him will be nothing compared to the comments made to him by the boys. Unreal, I love it.
All I can say is Priceless, absolutely Priceless.

Quick question, what would have happened if the players liked the coach?????

[Rightupinthere]

Knowing that Niz's GF if hotter than the hinges of Hades, that only leaves the fact that the players would drub the offending lad because of their collective hatred for coffee.

Freaking, commies.

[BGDrew]

I told this story to ms. fanatic when I ran into her at Kroger with goofy the other day; My gf worked at Tim Hortons for a while during the school year. She comes home one day to tell me how one of the hockey players (we couldn't figure out who) stopped in and tried to ask her out. She reads the hockey forum once in a while, and because of all the complaining that some former players do on here, all she had to say to the guy was this: If you would quit pissing and moaning about your coach and just play, I might consider talking to you. She was the goalie for JFK high in taylor Mi, so it is not just some stupid comment from a girl. No one wants to listen to a guy who lost the majority of his games complain about his coaching. All anyone wants is to watch their team go out and give it their all, no excuses, just play.

Niz, you're a great Falcon fan. No one is questioning that. And I will preface what I'm about to say when I say that I have never met your GF. She may be the re-incarnation of Jesus Christ for all I know.

However.

For your girlfriend to wildly assume that the player that she was talking to was an anti-Pooch guy without knowing who it was, was pretty sh*tty. I know you have a Falcon tattoo. How would you like it if someone assumed you were a criminal because you had body art? It's those kind of generalizations that I expect from those who aren't open-minded and willing to suspend their disbelief to see the truth.

I had a wonderful talk with Coach Salsburg on a bus trip home from East Lansing. She played at Penn State at a time when PSU flat out sucked at softball. There was a feeling that "Why try? We'll just lose." That kind of cancer against a team's morale takes a LONG time to come back from. Sadly, that's the culture which our team has now.

As someone who worked for the team, I try to stay out of things because I've heard/seen some things that would just incriminate some of the guys. I will say that not everyone on that team thinks Pooch is a bad coach. I'll agree that if he can't turn things around this year, then it's time for a change and I'll tell bigdog/Falco, etc. that they may have been right. However, I will also blame those who allow a "losing culture" to continue on a team with such a rich past. I don't care if you hate the coach. You are a D1 athlete for a reason. You are one of the best amateur hockey players in this continent. If you can't have pride in your play, I really don't think you're at the right school.

While I hope for the future, without a major change in the culture here we will continue to be the joke of the CCHA. A lot of things need to change, and it isn't just all the coaches fault, or the players fault. It's the collective being not caring enough to turn around a hidden gem.

[hockey fan]

I think you are right about there being a "losing culture." The question is how can that change. Any ideas? I have one, but it belongs in a different thread (you know what I mean). Seriously, how does that culture of losing change otherwise?

[BGDrew]

It starts with ALL the players and coaches being pissed off when UNO beats you 7-0. It's not making excuses that the players aren't playing, or the coaches not coaching. Everyone thinks that if you fire Paluch the team will drastically improve. I don't care if Scotty Bowman comes in to town. If the players don't care, they won't win. Vice-versa, I don't care if Wayne Gretzky is your team captain. If the coaches don't push the players and command respect, they won't win.

[Rightupinthere]

I think you are right about there being a "losing culture." The question is how can that change. Any ideas? I have one, but it belongs in a different thread (you know what I mean). Seriously, how does that culture of losing change otherwise?

I have stated such on multiple occasions. It's a pure bleaching of the program from coaches to select present players to past players. It even extends to the ice arena facilities manager. I know that is NOT a popular statement because the individual is a great person, but this is now about the program.

I like Pooch, but BG and he are in a lose/lose situation. He can't win with the cancer which is plaguing this program. There needs to be new leaders who will be able to elevate the current players, recruit excellence, and put alumni players in their place.

Until that happens, I don't have a great amount of hope for the program.