Hobey Baker Voting!!

[BG(Hockey)NewsGuy]

Jordan Sigalet is a great goaltender, he is one of the best in the league...one of the best in college hockey. I can't honestly tell you hes the best player in college hockey this year though. I think it'd be pretty tough to argue against Marty Sertich from Colorado College or guys like Colin Murphy from Michigan Tech....so on and so forth.....he does deserve to be up there and in consideration though.
But, lets get real with the other selections....I don't think James Unger is Jim Slater or that Matsumoto is T.J. Hensick. I don't think Jonathan Sigalet is a Andrew Alberts from BC. They're good players, but I just wish people would take into consideration that fan voting is a privelage, but one you should respect and not go overboard with.

[graceful]

Jordan Sigalet is a great goaltender, he is one of the best in the league...one of the best in college hockey. I can't honestly tell you hes the best player in college hockey this year though. I think it'd be pretty tough to argue against Marty Sertich from Colorado College or guys like Colin Murphy from Michigan Tech....so on and so forth.....he does deserve to be up there and in consideration though.
But, lets get real with the other selections....I don't think James Unger is Jim Slater or that Matsumoto is T.J. Hensick. I don't think Jonathan Sigalet is a Andrew Alberts from BC. They're good players, but I just wish people would take into consideration that fan voting is a privelage, but one you should respect and not go overboard with.

I may seem biased... but since I don't have much interest in following all the other teams in the CCHA closely... I'm gonna vote for the guys from my school over someone I haven't personally heard of... I'm sorry if you feel I do not respect the voting or am going overboard... I doubt I'm the only one who would rather support classmates over someone else they know little or nothing about

I'm not saying all the other guys you mentioned and that are up for Hobey aren't great athletes and people... but like the others... I'd rather see someone from my school excell then vote for those I know little about... that's my opinion at least

[Bleeding Orange]

I would have to agree with the latter half of HockeyNewsGuy's sentiments. Unger, Matsumoto and Siggy II are very, very good, but they are certainly not Hobey worthy players. I have been voting for Siggy II consistently as my #2 for the past few weeks, but lately I have started to feel a bit guilty about doing so. He's good, but the number of Hobey votes he has been getting can only serve to devalue the votes that Jordan is getting. We're seeing it on USCHO as we speak. People are looking at the votes, seeing that Jordan is #2 by a wide margin and that Jonathan is hanging around #10 residually. This is only leading people to believe that the people voting for Jordan are either a.) ignorant, or b.) voting for Jordan because he has MS and voting for Jonathan because it is "cute" (the latter half of this statement is, for the most part, true). Jonathan, I imagine, will be a Hobey candidate by the time he is a senior, but right now, I don't think he truly deserves the number of votes he has been getting.

As far as Jordan himself not being as worthy of the Hobey as Sertich or Murphy BG(Hockey)NewsGuy, well, I have to admit that I am somewhat saddened to know that you hold that opinion while being on the BG News staff. You who get to see him quite a bit in person and know what he has overcome in the past year should, of all people, realize that numbers aren't everything -- in life or in hockey.

[BG(Hockey)NewsGuy]

I may work for the BG News Staff, but I'm a journalist and can't afford to be a fan even though i cover the team that just so happens to represent my school. I'm not doing this as PR, its journalism...i try to give my stuff more of a BG view, but I'm a journalist and in my journalistic view.......I don't think Jordan is the Hobey Baker Award Winner.
He's a great guy....hes overcome a lot and i really do admire that, but I can't honestly say based on his playing ability that hes the best in college hockey. I've seen Colin Murphy play at the GLI and I follow the action across the country pretty extensively and I can't honestly say that hes the best this season.
He is a great player...don't get me wrong. One of the best in the league and in the country. I just can't go against what I'm in school for and what i believe in for the sake of benefiting one at my school.

[Bleeding Orange]

I may work for the BG News Staff, but I'm a journalist and can't afford to be a fan even though i cover the team that just so happens to represent my school. I'm not doing this as PR, its journalism...i try to give my stuff more of a BG view, but I'm a journalist and in my journalistic view.......I don't think Jordan is the Hobey Baker Award Winner.
He's a great guy....hes overcome a lot and i really do admire that, but I can't honestly say based on his playing ability that hes the best in college hockey. I've seen Colin Murphy play at the GLI and I follow the action across the country pretty extensively and I can't honestly say that hes the best this season.
He is a great player...don't get me wrong. One of the best in the league and in the country. I just can't go against what I'm in school for and what i believe in for the sake of benefiting one at my school.

I can respect that view. But please know that I totally, unequivicably, 100% disagree with you. I've seen Sertich, Montgomery, Murphy, Oystrick and several others play this year (mostly on TV), and I simply can not agree with you.

[BGFalcons232]

is siggy the best player in the country? no, absolutely not. he's not even the best at his position. however, there's more that goes into the hobey baker award than just that. just for fun, we'll go over those criteria once again.

1. Candidates must exhibit strength of character both on and off the ice.

-- how can you say he hasn't shown character on and off the ice? he's deflected any attention this hobey campaign has had on him and put it on his teammates and inspiring others with MS. he helped organize a weekend that raised thousands of dollars for MS research. did he ask for any praise in return? absolutely not. i'd like to see sertich or any other of the guys you mentioned show this kind of character.

not to mention he was the first and only BGSU goalie to wear the captain's "C" on his jersey. that says a lot of what his teammates think of him. it was his captaincy responsibility that ultimately helped drive him back to the ice despite his illness. jordan exudes strength of character as is the type of PERSON we should all strive to be like.

2. Candidates must contribute to the integrity of the team and display outstanding skills in all phases of the game.

-- again, a non-debateable issue. he's given BG hockey the lift it needed after the suspensions that resulted from the pictures that surfaced early in the season. if that's not contributing to the integrity of the team, i don't know what is.

and the second part... even you said in your post that he is an outstanding hockey player. so i'm not even going to go into it.

3. Consideration should be given to scholastic achievement and sportmanship.

-- i believe he's well over a 3.00 GPA. argument over.

4. Candidates must comply with all NCAA rules: be full time students in an accredited NCAA or NAIA college or university; and complete 50% or more of the season.

-- he's obviously in compliance with these as well.

after looking over all the criteria, there's no doubt jordan is a deserving candidate. if this truely was the "heisman" of hockey, i'd agree others are more deserving. however, the hobey baker doesn't go to the best player in the country, rather the one who shows the most on and off the ice. all things considered, i don't know how you can't back jordan for the hobey baker award.

[BG(Hockey)NewsGuy]

I know that there is off-ice criteria, but Jordan isn't the only guy exhibiting these criteria off the ice. Heres a article that USCHO just did on Colin Murphy showing how he came back from medical problems as well and balances having a wife and kid with his playing.
http://www.uscho.com/news/2005/02/15_009960.php

[factman]

Now I understand why we have so many AP articles and very little "local" coverage in the BG News!!

[bc ziggy 58]

Newsguy,
Based ONLY on the first amendment rights are you entitled to express your views on this forum (as well as the BG News). I for one find your feeble attempt at justification for your opinion on Siggy to be laughable at best. For some unexplained reason, journalists today find it necessary to try and educate us the public, and while doing that sacrifice integrity, character and yes even personal passion for what is (should be) important to the readers they are there to "serve".

Go ahead and accuse me of viewing this through burnt orange and seal brown glasses. Guilty as charged!! I will not sacrifice my passion for this university and the fine young men who represent it for the sake of journalistic "integrity". :coo-coo:

[BGFalcons232]

listen pal, supporting a local player doesn't compromise any kind of journalistic integrity. i really can't understand why you're searching for reasons to not suport siggy for hobey. sigalet has shown time and time again he is worthy of this award.

but i guess this explains why we've seen nothing about the hobey campaign in the BG news.

[BG(Hockey)NewsGuy]

Im not looking for reasons to say you shouldn't vote for Sigalet. I'm just saying consider other options too and don't vote for the sake of backing players because they just so happen to be from your school or just so happen to have a diease. He's never asked to stick out except to inform others....he wants to be a regular hockey player that is judged on the same criteria as everyone else. Hes never been one who likes having fingers pointed at him.
I for one have voted for Sigalet on Hobey Baker.com, but in my opinions there are other players out there I think people should take a look at too. Sigalet is well deserving of the award, but I'm journalist too and honestly can't say hes the one who should win...it'd be tough to argue against other players out there.

[BG(Hockey)NewsGuy]

Im glad people are voting for Jordan, I think he deserves it...i believe so myself....whether he should(emphasis) is an entirely different story that many can argue over and over again.
My concern is....lets eliminate those votes for guys who really shouldn't be that high up there. Not that they're bad players...they just aren't on that Hobey level. Besides voting for Jordan...vote for others like him that deserve it and who are on the level of play.

[SaxyIrishTenor]

Im glad people are voting for Jordan, I think he deserves it...i believe so myself....whether he should(emphasis) is an entirely different story that many can argue over and over again.
My concern is....lets eliminate those votes for guys who really shouldn't be that high up there. Not that they're bad players...they just aren't on that Hobey level. Besides voting for Jordan...vote for others like him that deserve it and who are on the level of play.

This is what the preliminary voting is for. It eliminates the players who shouldn't be there. It narrows the field and then the coahces make a decision, with a little influence from the fans.

[bgbill]

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[bgbill]

I'm not too concerned about the fan voting. It's just a PR thing. The most it can accomplish is to have a real voter take a closer look at someone.

To me, that makes playing against schools in all the other conferences a valuable exercise. It's one way to gauge players and teams without resorting to word of mouth reputations. When Brian Holzinger won the Hobey, he had Jerry York on his side in the east, and scored a hat trick against Wisconsin in their holiday tournament that year. That had to help.

It's rare to have one player a whole lot "better" than every other player in the NC$$.