BG vs. Alaska Weekend!

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jpfalcon09 wrote:Went to the game last night, thought BG came out unprepared to play and were dominated in the 1st, could've been worse but Hammond played a strong game. What I've noticed about BG is that they lack the overall team speed to create opportunities off the rush, they have to dump, muck and grind for their chances and its tough to win hockey games playing like that. The PP needs a lot of work too, many players aren't moving to create space and puck movement is too slow and deliberate, there are still many aspects of the game that the coaching staff needs to work on with this team.
You mean the D man isn't supposed to stay in the middle of the blue line giving a clean out around the boards? Twice, in the same powerplay!

We do not have an effective forecheck. Haven't for a couple years. But game in, game out, the puck gets dumped around the boards and comes right back out. More energy is spent chasing the puck than anything else. If you don't have the speed for an effective forecheck, put the puck on net. Force the goalie to handle it. He plays it, traps it, mishandles it, it goes in, crazy things can happen. Most times, he will dump it off to the side or behind the net. Either way it creates time for the forwards to get there.....leading to an effective forecheck when lacking speed.

On the powerplay we have good control when we win the faceoff. Once they clear the zone, the problems start. Regaining the zone is the biggest problem with the powerplay. So what happens? Dump it in the corner, it gets cleared. Time after time. Put it on net and get another faceoff.
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Brutal Weekend.

After this weekend I'm offically looking forward to the 2012-2013 season.

ZERO goals against the only team behind us in the standings................UNACCEPTABLE

The falcon hockey program turned back the clock about three years in the progress of bring back the glory. Say what you want about the refs this weekend, I'll agree that saturday night was bad.........very bad, however I'm from the belief of you need to take 100% accountability and that equals 0% excuses. We can't count on Carpenter and Wojtala to score all the goals, somebody step up and bring an offensive game.

Anyone want the rest of my season tickets this season. I've season enough after this weekend...........pathetic. Not sure whats worse Falcon football offense most of the season or hockey this weekend............
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Either the CCHA is incredible this year or we are just not so incredible. I am glad we got the non-conference wins, but we have to put some goals up against the CCHA teams and get some wins. Its obviously easier said than done, and the team is clearly going through a transition; the ups/downs.

As a Browns fan I have become used to the culture of losing, I may not appreciate that type of culture right now with BG, but in time we will be competitive again (unlike the Browns, lol). If someone is going to give their tickets away I would recommend contacting the ticket office at BG, I know they have community donation programs that allows them to give donated tickets away to youth groups, etc. I noticed that even Women's B-Ball is not doing so well this year either, its disappointing to see football, hockey, basketball, well just about all our sports struggle as much as they do; since at times we have been competitive with all of those teams in the national spotlight.

Bottom line those young men and women are out there fighting as hard as they can to represent BGSU, a school that I am proud to be associated with, and because of this I will support hockey as much as I can even though I am an ocean and a half away.

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"Either the CCHA is incredible this year or we are just not so incredible."
This is your answer, exactly.

in the top 20 there are 7 ccha teams.
#2 Notre Dame, #7 ferris, #9 Ohio State, #11 Michigan, #12 Western Mi,4-4 in CCHA play #13 Lake State 6-3 in CCHA play, #20 Mi State 4-4 in ccha play

Then at 21 you Miami, at 4-4 in CCHA play and 23 Northern MI who is at 2-5 in CCHA play.


The CCHA is with out question the strongest, top to bottom conference in College hockey. The tag," super conference", is right here. To win in the CCHA. BG needs to be extraordinary. We are not.
Much reference is being made about our style of play, and/or lack of skill players. Folks, we can only obtain so many skill guys right now, but its getting better. Top skill guys know BGSU, know the potential here, and want to come here. The improvements are visable, are there. Not in leaps and bounds, but measurable increments. As long as Dajon makes grades, there is one exceptional skill guy for next year to add, Brett D'Andre and Brent Tate are two more. Then there are more coming, and more top level role players as well. This is this coaching staffs second season, be patient. . The program is rebuilding at an acceptable pace.
You will not see many w's this year. The potential was there, who ever would have expected Ohio State to spike like this again? Not many, fewer still see them sustaining it.
Blaming the coaching is not acceptable yet, Not yet.
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Getting swept at home and drawing 2500 fans for two games is disappointing. I agree Bergeron needs to get his recruits in, but I've never been sold that he was a better choice than Williams (who just keeps winning in Amarillo.) The CCHA is good, but we shouldn't be getting shut out entire weekends. The team better start competing, or the already thin fanbase will become nonexistent. I know I won't be wasting my money on watching hockey again until after the break.
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Falcon1970 wrote:"Either the CCHA is incredible this year or we are just not so incredible."
This is your answer, exactly.

in the top 20 there are 7 ccha teams.
#2 Notre Dame, #7 ferris, #9 Ohio State, #11 Michigan, #12 Western Mi,4-4 in CCHA play #13 Lake State 6-3 in CCHA play, #20 Mi State 4-4 in ccha play

Then at 21 you Miami, at 4-4 in CCHA play and 23 Northern MI who is at 2-5 in CCHA play.


The CCHA is with out question the strongest, top to bottom conference in College hockey. The tag," super conference", is right here. To win in the CCHA. BG needs to be extraordinary. We are not.
Much reference is being made about our style of play, and/or lack of skill players. Folks, we can only obtain so many skill guys right now, but its getting better. Top skill guys know BGSU, know the potential here, and want to come here. The improvements are visable, are there. Not in leaps and bounds, but measurable increments. As long as Dajon makes grades, there is one exceptional skill guy for next year to add, Brett D'Andre and Brent Tate are two more. Then there are more coming, and more top level role players as well. This is this coaching staffs second season, be patient. . The program is rebuilding at an acceptable pace.
You will not see many w's this year. The potential was there, who ever would have expected Ohio State to spike like this again? Not many, fewer still see them sustaining it.
Blaming the coaching is not acceptable yet, Not yet.
Outstanding post!! Couldn't have said it better myself. As frustrating as this weekend was, we're a very young team that is building from the ground up. We'd lost a LOT of players through departures over the last umpteenth years. It's going to take awhile to build that up. And Bergeron and his staff are doing that. Every game is a opportunity to learn from mistakes (and we had PLENTY this weekend...) and improve. How they respond after this week will tell a lot. I know I wouldn't want to face these coaches at practice on Monday...or Tuesday.... :twisted:

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As frustrating as this weekend was, we're a very young team that is building from the ground up.
Falcon Fanatic completely understand the post HOWEVER this is an excuse. You are either a D1 player or not. This year, as well as several years in the recent past, we have some questionable Di players.

The top four leading scorers in the CCHA are sophomores, 8 of the top 11 are either sophomore or freshman. Those guys are young and nobody seems to be making excuses for those players or teams with those players about being young. BG is not a hot bed to attract the best junior players into college hockey as we once were. Once you fade off the recruiting map as a school, we have ALL witnessed the past two decades of Falcon Hockey how hard it is to get back to a place were top notch recruits WANT to come play hockey.
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unfalconbelievable wrote:BG is not a hot bed to attract the best junior players into college hockey as we once were. Once you fade off the recruiting map as a school, we have ALL witnessed the past two decades of Falcon Hockey how hard it is to get back to a place were top notch recruits WANT to come play hockey.
You are correct, but that is EXACTLY what Bergeron is trying to do. They are trying to overcome where this program had dropped down to. They are bringing in higher caliber recruits. Bergeron is helluva recruiter. He was the main reason that Miami became so successful with the players they brought in. It's a process and it's not going to happen over night.

And regarding our youth, I said we have a young team, not one or two young players. We have 9 freshman, 9 sophomores, 6 juniors, and 2 seniors on a team of 26. THAT is a young team. As the numbers even out a bit, the team will be more balanced in terms of experience and leadership. And again, it's a process and it doesn't happen over night.
"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
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one HUGE thing Bergeron had going for him as a recruiting tool in miami to draw players in was a new muilti-million dollar hockey factility. I'm sure he is great recruiter but having that to show players is a nice asset. He doesn't have that card to play in BG so his recruiting will be have to be that much better.
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UGH...didn't expect to see those results. BEAT SPARTY
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Falcon Fanatic wrote:
unfalconbelievable wrote:And regarding our youth, I said we have a young team, not one or two young players. We have 9 freshman, 9 sophomores, 6 juniors, and 2 seniors on a team of 26. THAT is a young team.
That's a young team in my book...gonna have ups and downs until the maturity comes. We've seen it with the football program.
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Notre Dame's Roster Link

http://www.und.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/ ... y-mtt.html

Freshman = 5
Sophomores = 12
Juniors =5
Seniors = 5

17 underclassman vs. 18 underclassman for BG
We have more juniors then they do 5 to BGs 6
They have 3 more seniors then BG.

So keep saying its a "young" team and so is Notre Dame and they are the #2 in the country. So whats our excuse now........Football team used this excuse for two years now look at where its got them. TALENTS TALENT NO MATTER WHAT CLASS YOUR IN. You're either good enough or not and right now we are not. We have a Freshman and sophomore as our best players behind a junior goaltender. They can play and show it.
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unfalconbelievable wrote:Notre Dame's Roster Link

http://www.und.com/sports/m-hockey/mtt/ ... y-mtt.html

Freshman = 5
Sophomores = 12
Juniors =5
Seniors = 5

17 underclassman vs. 18 underclassman for BG
We have more juniors then they do 5 to BGs 6
They have 3 more seniors then BG.

So keep saying its a "young" team and so is Notre Dame and they are the #2 in the country. So whats our excuse now........Football team used this excuse for two years now look at where its got them. TALENTS TALENT NO MATTER WHAT CLASS YOUR IN. You're either good enough or not and right now we are not. We have a Freshman and sophomore as our best players behind a junior goaltender. They can play and show it.
Having 5 experienced seniors is a lot different than having 2. Our two seniors have had THREE head coaches and a revolving door of assistant coaches. Jeff Jackson is in his 7th season as ND's head coach, which means that those seniors on that team have had the SAME expectations and system for the whole time they've been here. Our two seniors STAYED on a team when many of their team mates bolted because they weren't sure we would have a program left. I give McIntosh and Sinclair a LOT of credit for sticking with the program. So yes, I'll make the excuse that we are young, because we are. I also think that anyone who thought we were going to be mid or higher in the league at this point, hasn't been paying attention to this program and all that has happend.

Regarding your comment about talent...everyone has seen players with a LOT of talent that never sees to reach their potential. Coaching is the difference. We will be a much better team at the end of the year than we are now. After all this program has seen over the last 20+ years, if anyone's going to stop supporting the team after a weekend of getting swept, well then "C-YA!!! BYE-BYE!! JACK....oops...sorry, got carried away.... :-D

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Falcon Fanatic wrote:Having 5 experienced seniors is a lot different than having 2. Our two seniors have had THREE head coaches and a revolving door of assistant coaches. Jeff Jackson is in his 7th season as ND's head coach, which means that those seniors on that team have had the SAME expectations and system for the whole time they've been here. Our two seniors STAYED on a team when many of their team mates bolted because they weren't sure we would have a program left. I give McIntosh and Sinclair a LOT of credit for sticking with the program. So yes, I'll make the excuse that we are young, because we are. I also think that anyone who thought we were going to be mid or higher in the league at this point, hasn't been paying attention to this program and all that has happend.
Exactly Falcon Fanatic.



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Blashil was the top recruiter at Miami when they made the jump to an elite program. Blashil continued to help Miami when he was the HC at Indiana in the USHL. Bergeron obviously was a part of that, but he wasnt the main reason Miami got those recruits. I agree 100% regarding their rink also.
At some point the team has to improve....people aren't going to watch a team that plays the way we do. 12 goals in 10 conference games....ouch
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