I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
This would mean somebody in the athletic department would have to put what's right before making money or hurting ones feeling. By the athletic department NOT doing anything they are saying this behavior is acceptable. Yes, the sportsmanship line is read prior to the start of the game but don't look for them to show anyone the door in the near future. They'd rather have the student section full and act like idiots then have a two-thirds full section acting with pride and respect the opponent.
It's the Journey... wrote:I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
It would only happen once because none of the students would come back.
It's the Journey... wrote:I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
It would only happen once because none of the students would come back.
I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
This would mean somebody in the athletic department would have to put what's right before making money or hurting ones feeling. By the athletic department NOT doing anything they are saying this behavior is acceptable. Yes, the sportsmanship line is read prior to the start of the game but don't look for them to show anyone the door in the near future. They'd rather have the student section full and act like idiots then have a two-thirds full section acting with pride and respect the opponent.
In the arena, which would you rather have. A loud, rowdy, distracting student section, or quiet, relaxed, passive family outings.
It's the Journey... wrote:I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
It would only happen once because none of the students would come back.
not only would they not come back...every shyster lawyer from here to c-bus would be lining up to get in on the national headline-grabbing "1300 students censored, freedom of speech denied in heartland Ohio" cases. oh yeah, that would work out well.
let's stick to cheer practice.
and yes, calling a visiting athlete "asshole" is classless and juvenile. BGSU can do better.
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Maybe Chris will have to do what Red did at AA:"U-M hockey coach Red Berenson also took a proactive approach with Wolverine fans. Prior to the Oct. 17 game at Yost Ice Arena, Berenson came on the ice to address fans about some of their cheers. Berenson objected to one particular cheer: When a player from a visiting team goes to the penalty box, he is serenaded with a "see ya" chant, followed by a stream of obscenities."
source:http://www.ur.umich.edu/0304/Nov03_03/04.shtml
All is for the best in this best of all possible worlds.
It's the Journey... wrote:I see two solution for the profanity. First, toss the whole student section. I would imagine it would only happen a couple of times before the the point gets across. Second, have a "cheer practice" and address the issue. If it does not resolve itself then see number 1.
Could you please help people coordinate that, or come to the games early and try to get everyone's attention and make them listen to what you say. A hockey game crowd is not a class, the same people do not show up every night, even though some do.
I think a way to send the message across would be to put a chant list on every seat in the student section, and simply say that they shouldn't be cursing. If even just half stop saying it, it will cause more people to stop. If someone can get the person(s) to stop starting the chant in the first place, people will not even begin to chant it.
bgbill wrote:Maybe Chris will have to do what Red did at AA:"U-M hockey coach Red Berenson also took a proactive approach with Wolverine fans. Prior to the Oct. 17 game at Yost Ice Arena, Berenson came on the ice to address fans about some of their cheers. Berenson objected to one particular cheer: When a player from a visiting team goes to the penalty box, he is serenaded with a "see ya" chant, followed by a stream of obscenities."
source:http://www.ur.umich.edu/0304/Nov03_03/04.shtml
old story (2003), but good on Red.
looks like the B1Gs have tried to take it further since then. they're actually throwing cash money at the problem. hmm, how's that going?
"In July 2008, students and staff from the University of Minnesota attended the first Big Ten Sportsmanship and Spirit Conference at Ohio State University. Upon returning, several students took the initiative of creating a student-run Sportsmanship Council. Throughout the fall semester, students and staff conducted site visits at the University of Wisconsin, University of Illinois, Arizona State University, and the University of South Florida to gain additional information about how sportsmanship initiatives were run on their campuses. The knowledge obtained from the Big Ten Sportsmanship and Spirit Conference led to the formation of We Are…Minnesota Spirit Initiative in January 2009. Interns are hired annually to oversee the Spirit Initiative and to act as liaisons between University staff, students, and members of spirit sections at Gopher sporting events."
Redd has a little more leverage then Bergeron does. Not to say he won't do it but I wouldn't hold your breathe.
Funny thing is that it just doesn't happen at other sports events to the effect it does in hockey. Basketball, volleyball, soccer, cross country, tennis, baseball; non of those events have students in the masses shouting profanities at the officials or opponents.
If you do that at some of these events the officials would stop the event and ask you to either stop or ask the home teams athletic department to force them to leave.
For the record, Red did not stop the UM penalty box cheer. If anything, it exacerbated it. UM has resorted to having the band play over the student section during that chant.
College students everywhere like to swear. You're not going to stop it, and kicking the students out will only make them angry and hurt the relationship that the hockey program has built with the students. I suggest we all just get over it. Shake your head. Laugh at the dumb college kids. Explain to your children that people have different standards of what constitutes acceptable language. But don't take yourself so seriously that you let this issue ruin a perfectly good hockey game.
jg4242 wrote:For the record, Red did not stop the UM penalty box cheer. If anything, it exacerbated it. UM has resorted to having the band play over the student section during that chant.
College students everywhere like to swear. You're not going to stop it, and kicking the students out will only make them angry and hurt the relationship that the hockey program has built with the students. I suggest we all just get over it. Shake your head. Laugh at the dumb college kids. Explain to your children that people have different standards of what constitutes acceptable language. But don't take yourself so seriously that you let this issue ruin a perfectly good hockey game.
Considering this topic comes up almost every year, it is a problem. The townspeople and others who PAY to see the games will start to think twice before coming. We have a hard enough time with attendance and this will only get worse given that the WCHA conference schools are almost unknown to anyone outside of college hockey. We really don't need people staying away because it is no longer a family friendly environment.
jg4242 wrote:For the record, Red did not stop the UM penalty box cheer. If anything, it exacerbated it. UM has resorted to having the band play over the student section during that chant.
College students everywhere like to swear. You're not going to stop it, and kicking the students out will only make them angry and hurt the relationship that the hockey program has built with the students. I suggest we all just get over it. Shake your head. Laugh at the dumb college kids. Explain to your children that people have different standards of what constitutes acceptable language. But don't take yourself so seriously that you let this issue ruin a perfectly good hockey game.
Finally, common sense.
That's not common sense, it's a cop out. It starts out like this every year until the complaints come in. The students pretty much comply, they tone it down a bit with the profanity and they still come to the games. They can be reasoned with.
The townspeople who pay to come to the games aren't exactly in huge numbers. Anybody notice all of the empty seats? Yes, the students don't pay to get in, but their fees do go to athletics. If students get banned from the game, how long do you think it will be before the issue of fees paid to athletics comes up?
That trend is starting to reverse, and I want to see it continue to do so. At this point in your life you don't find it a big deal, when you're a parent with young children that are old enough to repeat those profanities when you least expect it I imagine that your view will change.
