Friday vs. LSSU

bgbill · Post by **bgbill** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 4:43 am

Attendance listed as 2,751.
Looked like a lot more than that.

unfalconbelievable · Post by **unfalconbelievable** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 8:49 am

May have been a perfect storm regarding out of conference games for Pairwise rankings.............but I have a tough time believing they are taking 3 teams from the WCHA for the NCAA tournament. Money talks and the WCHA doesn't have money teams in the conference.

Freddie · Post by **Freddie** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 9:52 am

unfalconbelievable wrote:May have been a perfect storm regarding out of conference games for Pairwise rankings.............but I have a tough time believing they are taking 3 teams from the WCHA for the NCAA tournament. Money talks and the WCHA doesn't have money teams in the conference.

Please seek some professional help to overcome your obvious sense of insecurity and paranoia. There is no conspiracy to tilt the tournament selection in favor of the "money teams". This isn't football or bouncyball. The selection committee has strict guidelines based on established, objective criteria. If 3 or even 4 WCHA teams end the season within those criteria, they'll make the field.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 10:34 am

Freddie wrote:
unfalconbelievable wrote:May have been a perfect storm regarding out of conference games for Pairwise rankings.............but I have a tough time believing they are taking 3 teams from the WCHA for the NCAA tournament. Money talks and the WCHA doesn't have money teams in the conference.
Please seek some professional help to overcome your obvious sense of insecurity and paranoia. There is no conspiracy to tilt the tournament selection in favor of the "money teams". This isn't football or bouncyball. The selection committee has strict guidelines based on established, objective criteria. If 3 or even 4 WCHA teams end the season within those criteria, they'll make the field.

NOW GET BACK ON TRACK AND BEAT THE LAKERS!!

jbakerifm · Post by **jbakerifm** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 11:09 am

A: Agree the crowd looked bigger than that. Plenty of empty seats in my section (D) but the rest of the arena looked pretty full.

B: our young team better learn to focus. Splitting series was OK when we played good teams, but they can't afford a Friday night loss as a "warmup" game. Friedman played OK but without his usual fire. I was OK going without a couple senseless penalties, but it was clear to me he wasn't playing as hard as usual.

C: Having said that the upperclassmen didn't exactly light the world on fire. Mingo and Berkle in particular had a rough night. Still have faith those two guys in particular will bounce back from it though.

D: Unfalconbelievable, are you going to doubt the falcons get a berth, or the wcha gets three, right up to the moment it happens?
One of the things I love about college hockey is the playoff selection criteria are set and fair. Every team and conference has a fair shot at it. If you argued that they'll try to change the criteria in the future it might make sense, right now you don't.

poltergeist · Post by **poltergeist** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:08 pm

unfalconbelievable wrote:Money talks and the WCHA doesn't have money teams in the conference.

doncha just hate it when people confuse college hockey with football?

come back and talk to us when mich state, the bucknuts, notre dame, and wisconsin are more relevant in hockey than BGSU, mankato, tech, mass-lowell, quinnipiac, vermont, colgate...

BGhockeyfan94 · Post by **BGhockeyfan94** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:14 pm

So was tate's 10 minute penalty because he threw his broken stick into the crowd? Or was he yapping at the ref?

unfalconbelievable · Post by **unfalconbelievable** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 1:31 pm

RELAX I'm well aware of how the Pairwise Rankings work............... Been a season ticket holder longer then some of you have been alive so as Aaron Rogers say RELAX

The NCAA is in this to make money that's all I'm saying, and I wouldn't trust a lot of their decisions. Agreed hockey is not the money spot Football is having proven small teams have had success.

jbakerifm · Post by **jbakerifm** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 2:26 pm

Tates penalty was for throwing his stick in the crowd. Pretty bad decision in the heat of the moment, although I'm sure the Creatures loved it.

As much as i dislike the NCAA, I'm Not sure what there is not to trust. Multiple news sites mimic the pairwise. If they played with the selection process you can bet someone would be on top of it in an instant. That'd be a pretty big scoop for somebody!

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:01 pm

jbakerifm wrote:Tates penalty was for throwing his stick in the crowd. Pretty bad decision in the heat of the moment, although I'm sure the Creatures loved it.

As much as i dislike the NCAA, I'm Not sure what there is not to trust. Multiple news sites mimic the pairwise. If they played with the selection process you can bet someone would be on top of it in an instant. That'd be a pretty big scoop for somebody!

Tate's penalty is what it is. Stupid, frustrating, nitpicking by the referee, choose whichever you want to call it. There was a lot of "unsportsmanlike conduct" going on that wasn't called. Slashing a player who is being escorted to the box, grabbing a player by the head and pulling him down after the whistle, etc. Very poor job by the stripes. Did it cost BG the game? Even with all that, you have to come to play. I think it would have really changed the game had the BS been called, but the effort want there to begin with.

As for the other argument going on here, well, I'm just gonna leave this here. You interpret it how you want to.

The PairWise Ranking is a system which attempts to mimic the method used by the NCAA Selection Committee to determine participants for the NCAA Division I men's hockey tournament. The PWR compares all teams by these criteria: record against common opponents, head-to-head competition, and the RPI.

Read more: http://www.uscho.com/rankings/pairwise- ... z3PlpYVbWV" target="_blank

jbakerifm · Post by **jbakerifm** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 3:38 pm

I didn't feel like that penalty was nitpicking, somewhat dangerous thing to do. How many times do you see a puck go into the crowd and half the people in the area look up like, what just happened? Itd be nice if everyone paid as close a attention to the game as I'm sure all of us do, but that's not the case. I did think they let LSSU get away with a hell of a lot last night. We sure dont get much in the way of calls at home!

On a more positive note I looked up attendance stats and saw they are averaging around 700 more people per game this year than last. Hopefully that number will bump up more with the next few series with the students in town. Also saw that spring break falls on the conference tournament first round weekend again, which sucks

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