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TommyG wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm What a bad weekend. Not only lost both, but were out worked significantly both games. Mankato was ready to go...BG was not.
Sometimes you need a good butt whoopin' to bring you back down to earth.

They've lost 4 of 6 and you hope this isn't a repeat of previous seasons where the program seems to lose some steam later in the year. Three more conference series to go and 2nd place is still a very attainable goal, just can't afford to slip up.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 8:43 am
TommyG wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 4:49 pm What a bad weekend. Not only lost both, but were out worked significantly both games. Mankato was ready to go...BG was not.
Sometimes you need a good butt whoopin' to bring you back down to earth.

They've lost 4 of 6 and you hope this isn't a repeat of previous seasons where the program seems to lose some steam later in the year. Three more conference series to go and 2nd place is still a very attainable goal, just can't afford to slip up.
4 of 6 losses occurred in the state of Minnesota, with another loss coming to a Minnesota team.

The games are what they were. There's definitely a different level of class between what's behind the bench. One, coaches to avoid incidents like at the end of Saturday. The other, well, when you have a record setting goaltender, you're up 5-1 with 5 minutes left and you're still playing like you're down a goal. You shouldn't be surprised when tempers flair.
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You have your team play as hard as they can for 60 minutes, regardless of score. That's how you do it.

If BG didn't like that, then maybe they should have played harder in the first 59 minutes or 119 minutes in the case of this past weekend.
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AZIce wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:35 pm You have your team play as hard as they can for 60 minutes, regardless of score. That's how you do it.

If BG didn't like that, then maybe they should have played harder in the first 59 minutes or 119 minutes in the case of this past weekend.
Have you not watched any BG games this season? Up by 4 in a very controlled game, dump the puck in and back the forecheck off a bit. You make it obvious you're not just trying to run up the score and you don't have problems. Make it seem like you're trying to run up the score and you open yourself up with cheap shots.
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pdt1081 wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:15 pm
AZIce wrote: Mon Feb 08, 2021 2:35 pm You have your team play as hard as they can for 60 minutes, regardless of score. That's how you do it.

If BG didn't like that, then maybe they should have played harder in the first 59 minutes or 119 minutes in the case of this past weekend.
Have you not watched any BG games this season? Up by 4 in a very controlled game, dump the puck in and back the forecheck off a bit. You make it obvious you're not just trying to run up the score and you don't have problems. Make it seem like you're trying to run up the score and you open yourself up with cheap shots.
I felt Cullen did what he did more so out of frustration than how Minnesota State was playing.
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jpfalcon09 wrote: Tue Feb 09, 2021 3:44 pm
I felt Cullen did what he did more so out of frustration than how Minnesota State was playing.
Absolutely frustration. When you go back to the spearing penalty from Friday night, there was obviously a lot more going on in the ice than you could see on TV. It was building. 3-5 minutes left with a top goaltender, last game of a series, both teams play next weekend, make it obvious you're ok skating it out. Playoffs, different story. Keep the forecheck going full tilt, keep the overall intensity of the game elevated, and someone may lose their head for a second going after the puck. All season long, BG has put themselves in the position Mankato was. There's been very few late game frustration penalties because of the way BG has managed their games. Up 4, keep the clock running. Bumps not hits, etc. You basically let the other team know you respect them enough you're not going to try and run up the score and embarrass them, and you don't have these kind of problems.
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Please excuse my ignorance - I haven’t seen a lot of “dirty” plays in my history of watching college hockey, so go easy on me.

So on the Cullen penalty... why was that worthy of a multi-game suspension? I didn’t really see anything that was awful about it. I know the online reaction was calling it dirty and whatnot, but all I saw was Spooner (MnSt) slipping after being checked and he fell into the boards. What was wrong with what Cullen did, beyond checking the man from behind while down 4 goals with like 30 seconds left? The guy he hit got right back up, so it’s not like he broke the man in half or took his head off in the middle of the ice.

I’d love for an explanation beyond “it was just dirty!” because I haven’t been able to find one, and I honestly can’t figure it out. Perhaps someone with a bit more hockey knowledge can fill me in?
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mbenecke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:41 am Please excuse my ignorance - I haven’t seen a lot of “dirty” plays in my history of watching college hockey, so go easy on me.

So on the Cullen penalty... why was that worthy of a multi-game suspension? I didn’t really see anything that was awful about it. I know the online reaction was calling it dirty and whatnot, but all I saw was Spooner (MnSt) slipping after being checked and he fell into the boards. What was wrong with what Cullen did, beyond checking the man from behind while down 4 goals with like 30 seconds left? The guy he hit got right back up, so it’s not like he broke the man in half or took his head off in the middle of the ice.

I’d love for an explanation beyond “it was just dirty!” because I haven’t been able to find one, and I honestly can’t figure it out. Perhaps someone with a bit more hockey knowledge can fill me in?
Checking from behind is dangerous because the receiving player is unable to protect themself. Cullen hit him from behind, extending the arms through the hit for maximum impact.

Rumor is Spooner was concussed on the play so him “popping up” was most likely instinctive.

I’m thankful the hit wasn’t more damaging, because the way Spooner’s head went into the boards he could have broken his neck.

What’s extra boneheaded from that play is Cullen’s teammates have to step in to keep him from getting pummeled. Craggs starts fighting which means he earns an automatic one-game suspension.

Here’s a still frame from the impact. https://twitter.com/mohr_denis/status/1 ... 71841?s=21
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BGDrew wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:18 am
mbenecke wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 6:41 am Please excuse my ignorance - I haven’t seen a lot of “dirty” plays in my history of watching college hockey, so go easy on me.

So on the Cullen penalty... why was that worthy of a multi-game suspension? I didn’t really see anything that was awful about it. I know the online reaction was calling it dirty and whatnot, but all I saw was Spooner (MnSt) slipping after being checked and he fell into the boards. What was wrong with what Cullen did, beyond checking the man from behind while down 4 goals with like 30 seconds left? The guy he hit got right back up, so it’s not like he broke the man in half or took his head off in the middle of the ice.

I’d love for an explanation beyond “it was just dirty!” because I haven’t been able to find one, and I honestly can’t figure it out. Perhaps someone with a bit more hockey knowledge can fill me in?
Checking from behind is dangerous because the receiving player is unable to protect themself. Cullen hit him from behind, extending the arms through the hit for maximum impact.

Rumor is Spooner was concussed on the play so him “popping up” was most likely instinctive.

I’m thankful the hit wasn’t more damaging, because the way Spooner’s head went into the boards he could have broken his neck.

What’s extra boneheaded from that play is Cullen’s teammates have to step in to keep him from getting pummeled. Craggs starts fighting which means he earns an automatic one-game suspension.

Here’s a still frame from the impact. https://twitter.com/mohr_denis/status/1 ... 71841?s=21
I appreciate the explanation, Drew. That screenshot really makes it clear how dangerous it was. Glad he's still able to walk after that...
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BGDrew wrote: Wed Feb 10, 2021 8:18 am
Checking from behind is dangerous because the receiving player is unable to protect themself. Cullen hit him from behind, extending the arms through the hit for maximum impact.

Rumor is Spooner was concussed on the play so him “popping up” was most likely instinctive.

I’m thankful the hit wasn’t more damaging, because the way Spooner’s head went into the boards he could have broken his neck.

What’s extra boneheaded from that play is Cullen’s teammates have to step in to keep him from getting pummeled. Craggs starts fighting which means he earns an automatic one-game suspension.

Here’s a still frame from the impact. https://twitter.com/mohr_denis/status/1 ... 71841?s=21
Spooner had eyes on Cullen from top of the circle in. Even looked over his right shoulder as he crossed the goal line, and engaged with him. He could have taken a different line to the puck.

Not seeing the "fighting" major or disqualification for Craggs and Zmolek either. Neither player dropped the gloves, which is usually the prime qualification for those penalties.
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Zmolek and Craggs were throwing live rounds at each other, albeit masked and gloved. Would be kind of dumb to drop the gloves if they’re both still wearing the fishbowls anyways.

Fighting majors and game disqualifications were called on the play so they’ll for sure be out the next game.
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