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First of all, how can you call this a forum? You ask people to state their opinion (regardless if whether it’s true or not), but then you shut them out? You allow members on this forum who are only stating the “good” in everybody, making it seem like college sports are as sweet as pie. But you know what? They AREN’T! There’s a lot that goes on behind closed doors that certain people just don’t want to let out. I feel like I’m back in grade school where everybody shouts out to their children, “You’re All Winners.” Are we all winners? Sorry folks, it’s just not that easy. Not everyone in sports (coaches, athletes, administrators, etc.) is straight as an arrow. Hate to shoot it to you straight, but that’s the truth of it and all this forum does is provide its members with all the happy moments in sports but blocks out the bad. But if I’m not mistaken, I thought this forum is all about giving your opinion and stating the facts regardless of if it hurts. Sure, sometimes the truth hurts, but that’s what makes the people come out and really start talking. And I’m sorry, but nobody wants to come on here and continue reading the crap that comes out of these people’s mouths. Based off of the volume (of which I’ve noticed), this forum hasn’t seen this much action until my friends and I joined up. Before we all joined on, the same old people would come on and chat about issues of which they are clueless. Besides some the supporting alumni (who have given to the hockey players so graciously), most of the so-called “chatters” are nothing more than the hockey coaches and select administrators who know nothing about how the athletes truly feel. Nor do they care. This is their way of trying to regulate people’s opinions. My point again, they do not want to hear what the athlete has to say. As long as nobody says anything bad, the world of DI athletics will still remain a happy place. Not everything in my letter was horrible or rude. A lot of the topics that I touched on had plenty of good points and great discussion for those people on this forum who really want to start talking. If it’s the filth you want out of my letter, why don’t you take everything vulgar out of it and leave the facts and my opinion in? Maybe it’s just a little too scary for you all because I was dead on with a lot of things and you just don’t want your members knowing the truth. I don’t think it was the vulgarity that made you want to take it off of the forum; it’s the truth that you wanted to hide so badly.

Here’s a good quote…”And the TRUTH shall set you FREE!”

You think the people on this board are administrators and coaches expressing their opinions? Many of us on this board know each other and many times we may disagree. But we know WHO we are dealing with and where they are coming from...whether we agree or not.

None of us appreciate a "newby" coming on and calling us names and hiding.

I don't know who made you the person to single handedly clean up D1 sports. None of us are so naive as to think everything is all sweetness and light in the locker rooms. So don't make assumptions about us.

If you have this much passion, I would suggest making an appointment with Dr. Edward Whipple who oversees the entire athletic department and bring these things to his attention so that he can discuss it with the new AD to be named soon.

Oh and use paragraphs for God's sake. A blob doesn't get read much. At least your spelling improved.

To be honest, I was with ya and contemplating a compliment on your original post. Then I got to the second paragraph. That wasn't just vulgarity, it was ridiculous.

This effort was much better, and even if I don't agree with all of it, it was stated much better. (Paragraph breaks aside, of course. )

"Coming this summer to select theatres, a story about an athletes hatred, a coach's passion, and the fans support. A story that well bring out the biggest hidden secret in history. THE FALCON CODE."

Coming to a theatre near you July 4th, 2006

BGathletics24 wrote:You allow members on this forum who are only stating the “good” in everybody, making it seem like college sports are as sweet as pie.

Clearly you have never visited the basketball forum.

I don't know about the feelings of everyone else, but I don't think saying how much a team sucks really helps be constructive? If you wanted an example of a team quitting because they were sick of being told how awful they were, look at the men's hoops team this year.

Jeez, I don't check the board for a couple days and the whole place goes to hell

I have to say, first of all, that I have not read every word in all of these threads that have been popping up thanks to you and your mates, BGathletics24, but I have read enough. For the sake of a starting point with one another, I am going to tell you, quite bluntly, what I think of your point of view. This is going to sound harsh, but you have to realize that this is how you are coming off whether you realize it or not.

You and your friends sound like a bunch of crybabies. You sound like a bunch of players that didn't go where you might have assumed you would after graduation. You also sound like a bunch of players who, rather than review your own efforts, attitudes and methods, would rather blame the coach for lost playing time. We all know that Paluch is not nearly as laid back as Buddy Powers was, and perhaps you weren't expecting to work as much for PT during your Falcon careers as you did after Pooch was hired. Perhaps you the coach rubbed you the wrong way as soon as he was hired, or vice versa. I don't know because all I have to judge your attitude by is your incompetant, often incoherent vitriol.

The saddest part is that you probably know who a lot of the posters on this board are based on your interactions with the fans during your careers. But, because of your irrational obscurity, none of us know who you are. In this way, you see, we are at a disadvantage, which is strike one against your credibility. The fact that you can't form a complete sentence and show a violent disregard for anything even remotely masquerading as a gramatical rule is strike two.

I think that the problem a lot of us have around here is that not only do we know Coach personally, we also know players and, in a few cases, their parents personally. We know that Coach is a straight shooter from our personal interactions with him. We know his attitude and what he expects from his team. We also know what not only players have told us about him, but thier parents as well. I can understand players wanting to play the political game and say nothing bad about the coaches or the program, but, if things are truly as bad as you claim them to be with the coaching staff, one would reasonably assume that a parent, any parent, even just one, would somehow allude to it. To my knowledge, none have (although I could be wrong here, please correct me if I am). So you see, fans close to the program do, in fact, have justifiable reason to believe that they have a decent insight into the status of the program based on our multi-layered interactions with it. Strike three.

You're out.

Heretofore, everything I have said has been intended to be totally serious, but I feel that I must get one witty dig in, so here goes:

It isn't Coach Paluch's fault that Matsumoto and Sigalet (Jonathan) were more talented than you. If you couldn't see that young talent was good for the program, and, if you had given a crap about the program itself and the impact that it might have on your future careers, well then quite frankly, I'm sorry that I cheered you on (whoever you are) for these past few years.

That is all.

Moneymaker02, interesting idea on the movie for a July 4th release, but we would need more footage to meet that release date. I think that a better idea would be for ESPN to run "The Season - Falcon Hockey"...... now that would be entertaining.

Bleeding Orange, I agree with your feelings about Matsumoto, he's a great player and a lot of fun to watch play the game. Jonathan Sigalet is an interesting selection as a member of your top player list, based on games that I viewed. I would be interested in checking out what percentage of his points came on the powerplay.... also, what kind of plus/minus did he have during his career? Does this site or any other provide an area to look at historical statistics? I do remember some highlight reel hits that various CCHA players laid on Jonathan, which always adds to the tempo of the game. He put up some good powerplay stats at the pro ranks this year, but I have to wonder how long he will be able to ride is brother's coat-tails.

BGathletics24 wrote:First of all, how can you call this a forum? You ask people to state their opinion (regardless if whether it’s true or not), but then you shut them out? You allow members on this forum who are only stating the “good” in everybody, making it seem like college sports are as sweet as pie. But you know what? They AREN’T! There’s a lot that goes on behind closed doors that certain people just don’t want to let out. I feel like I’m back in grade school where everybody shouts out to their children, “You’re All Winners.” Are we all winners? Sorry folks, it’s just not that easy. Not everyone in sports (coaches, athletes, administrators, etc.) is straight as an arrow. Hate to shoot it to you straight, but that’s the truth of it and all this forum does is provide its members with all the happy moments in sports but blocks out the bad. But if I’m not mistaken, I thought this forum is all about giving your opinion and stating the facts regardless of if it hurts. Sure, sometimes the truth hurts, but that’s what makes the people come out and really start talking. And I’m sorry, but nobody wants to come on here and continue reading the crap that comes out of these people’s mouths. Based off of the volume (of which I’ve noticed), this forum hasn’t seen this much action until my friends and I joined up. Before we all joined on, the same old people would come on and chat about issues of which they are clueless. Besides some the supporting alumni (who have given to the hockey players so graciously), most of the so-called “chatters” are nothing more than the hockey coaches and select administrators who know nothing about how the athletes truly feel. Nor do they care. This is their way of trying to regulate people’s opinions. My point again, they do not want to hear what the athlete has to say. As long as nobody says anything bad, the world of DI athletics will still remain a happy place. Not everything in my letter was horrible or rude. A lot of the topics that I touched on had plenty of good points and great discussion for those people on this forum who really want to start talking. If it’s the filth you want out of my letter, why don’t you take everything vulgar out of it and leave the facts and my opinion in? Maybe it’s just a little too scary for you all because I was dead on with a lot of things and you just don’t want your members knowing the truth. I don’t think it was the vulgarity that made you want to take it off of the forum; it’s the truth that you wanted to hide so badly.

Here’s a good quote…”And the TRUTH shall set you FREE!”

MUUUUUCH better. Thank you. There is a touch of regret of deleting your post. I got to the point where you told someone to "vaccuum your rooster" and that was the straw. I didn't have the patience nor the fortitude to continue reading. You could have very well ended the post with excellent points, but I was forced to wade through a lot of BS to get to it. The BS was calling people names et al. I have no patience for high school rantings.

On to your post.
If I read correctly, and forgive me if I didn't, do you believe that this board is somehow manipulated by BGSU and/or the athletic department? To assure you, it isn't. If it were there would be pop-up ads all over the d@mn place.

I don't work for BGSU. I'm too evil. Other than Transfer there aren't any people who do. We're lousy with player family members, but that as close are you can get.

You didn't know I'm on the university payroll now? Oh yeah.... that's why I live in the palace that I do in the high-dollar zone of Elmore.

ZiggyZoomba wrote:You didn't know I'm on the university payroll now? Oh yeah.... that's why I live in the palace that I do in the high-dollar zone of Elmore.

I've seen satellite images of your house. I would ask for a raise.

well i don't know what player parents you know but the ones i know have their doubts about poochie. i've had more than one player tell me he doesn't know what he's doing on the ice -- and they aren't seniors. These new guys are coming into BGSU from top junior programs and know what good coaching is. the seniors were going to talk to Krebs but he didn't care as he was already bailing on the whole shebang. poochie and foggs found out and started bad mouthing these guys to death. In my opinion this is the whole reason for last season going into the toilet, didn't have to be that way, and there is a lot of bad feelings as a resultl. however, I will concede that almost the entire outgoing senior class had so little talent that I'm willing to give the pooch another year to pull something together. he particularly needs to do a better job of communicating to them because they need it -- de facto he is the leader of the team and he needs to do a much better job than he has been. by the way, congrats to Morrison for signing with Philadelphia Flyers AHL farm team. He is a good guy no matter what the pooch parrots say on this board.

heyman wrote:well i don't know what player parents you know but the ones i know have their doubts about poochie. i've had more than one player tell me he doesn't know what he's doing on the ice -- and they aren't seniors. These new guys are coming into BGSU from top junior programs and know what good coaching is. the seniors were going to talk to Krebs but he didn't care as he was already bailing on the whole shebang. poochie and foggs found out and started bad mouthing these guys to death. In my opinion this is the whole reason for last season going into the toilet, didn't have to be that way, and there is a lot of bad feelings as a resultl. however, I will concede that almost the entire outgoing senior class had so little talent that I'm willing to give the pooch another year to pull something together. he particularly needs to do a better job of communicating to them because they need it -- de facto he is the leader of the team and he needs to do a much better job than he has been. by the way, congrats to Morrison for signing with Philadelphia Flyers AHL farm team. He is a good guy no matter what the pooch parrots say on this board.

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Heyman, you present a respectable and workable argument (all of you others, get out your notepads now...). I believe that there may be some truth to what you say, but I also believe that there is a two way street in any coach/player situation. Yes, communication is part of the equation in coaching, but if there is no willingness to communicate from the side of the players, then there is no common denomenatory between the two primary factors that go into a winning team. Quite frankly, in the few games that I saw last year, there were many occasions when it just didn't seem like the players gave a s**t. I could be wrong, but, if you sign up to play for a coach, or even a program for that matter...