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coaching conflicts

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 3:00 pm
by bigdog
Falconblue, you are impressing me more and more everytime you write.
I think I have learn what is going with the people on this site, they will back up anything to do with BG no matter what. No matter what. This isn't exactly a bad thing! The people of BG are very supportive which is great to see. Although, it is alright to speak your mind when something is not good and needs a change. Your friends aren't going to hate you becuase you may speak your mind. You are also not any less of a fan to want what is best for the team.
In saying that just look at the data that Pooch has beside his name. Forget all the things I have said that are going on behind the scenes becuase apparently you guys need solid proof. Well lets look for a minute at what has happened since pooch has began coaching at BG.
There has only been one winning season is the four seasons. Never won a playoff game. Had a strength coach leave becuase couldn't stand dealing with him. Had 2 coaches quit and go elsewhere. Has had around 10 players quit. This is solid proof, these are things even the biggest BG fans can't deny. Its ok to ask for a change in the program, you are not any less of a fan to do so.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:13 pm
by dannyk
What is a new coach really going to do? I dont think anyone in their right mind believes BG is going to win a CCHA championship anytime in the next 10 yrs. Maybe one in four years we can get home ice which Pooch did.
I dont want to bring rinks up but besides Ferris we might have the worst rink in the league.

Another problem in recruiting is that we lived off the '84 championship for ten years and it worked, but it is hard to sell tradition now, when a recruit looks at the last 10 years.

All we can ask is to be competitive which we are now more that most years in the past, minus the .500 year in 04-05 and home ice

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:30 pm
by BGFan
dannyk wrote:What is a new coach really going to do? I dont think anyone in their right mind believes BG is going to win a CCHA championship anytime in the next 10 yrs. Maybe one in four years we can get home ice which Pooch did.
I dont want to bring rinks up but besides Ferris we might have the worst rink in the league.

Another problem in recruiting is that we lived off the '84 championship for ten years and it worked, but it is hard to sell tradition now, when a recruit looks at the last 10 years.

All we can ask is to be competitive which we are now more that most years in the past, minus the .500 year in 04-05 and home ice
Wow....talk about a defeatest attitude.

Ever been to U of M's arena. Aside from a nice score board their arena is literally a barn. Ever been to Notre Dame's arena? They pull a curtain to seperate it off from the rest of the building during a game. It's a pit, and yet they just knocked off BC and are currently ranked pretty high.

Have you been to the arena since the new boards and glass have been installed? It's made a huge difference in the sight lines and overall look of the arena. There's nothing wrong with the arena as far as I'm concerned. it's still one of the larger arenas in the league and the recent lighting and board replacements have made a huge difference and, from what I understand, there's a lot more to come. Get off the arena kick....that's not a problem.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:32 pm
by bigdog
why does everyone think a new rink is going to do something for a team. We don't even fill the one we have now. A new rink isn't going to affect the strategies that the players play with or how they play. I can honestly say that the worst rinks to play in are Nebraska and Ohio State because although they have the best rinks in the conference it makes fotr the worst atmosphere.

get off the rink kick

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 4:46 pm
by freddiethefalconBG
The rink has nothing to do with it. BG has the some of the best facilities. The hockey team gets treated great. We have a brand new lounge with leather seats and a big screen. We have one of the best locker rooms with another big screen tv. We get everything we want. We have all the best gear. As far as the rink goes, there is nothing wrong with it. It is a great place to play in.

The problem with BG is the coaching. Get new coaches and you will really see a change. Pooch is not going to work. The man just is not a good head coach.

Between facilities and the campus Pooch has plenty of recruiting ammo. The man just can not hack it. he is wasting everyones time and a lot of money. Let's bring ina real head coach so we can have a winning team and have a bunch of players really succeed and move forward with their careers. The only thing that Pooch is good at is getting guys to hate the game that they have loved more than anything for their entire life.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:03 pm
by BGDrew
Let me ask this of those who want to see Pooch get fired: how much money have you donated to the University to be used for this purpose? Also, does the AD agree with your opinion?

I don't agree with your opinion, but the real question is are you willing to take any action or just bitch about it?

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:07 pm
by dannyk
Im not talking about more seating, and yes Notre Dames rink is alot worse than ours. I didnt mean for the rink to be the theme but Michigan has tradition, we have lost ours in the last few years. If you dont have that or a nice facility its hard to get top recruits. And even a new arena wears off after a few year eg. OSU.

Personally I like the old school feel of the arena, and the new lights and boards are nice, but a rink like Miami, and traditions at UM, MSU are hard to beat. I doubt many teams are playing up the fact that they got new boards. I doubt fans at North Dakota would be fired up about new boards.

We are in a similar situation as LSSU in terms have being at a crossroads in direction of the program. We both were good teams but are in the gutter. Something has to be done and I'm not really sure what that is.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:39 pm
by The Niz
bigdog wrote:why does everyone think a new rink is going to do something for a team. We don't even fill the one we have now. A new rink isn't going to affect the strategies that the players play with or how they play. I can honestly say that the worst rinks to play in are Nebraska and Ohio State because although they have the best rinks in the conference it makes fotr the worst atmosphere.
We Filled it two or three times last year and already once this year against Uconn. I doubt attendence at the ice arena will be an issue much longer, if it even is right now. After the game against scUM last yearwe consistently had big crowds and after the nice crowd against Uconn (when we didn't even have the band there yet) I have very high hopes for the hockey teams popularity with the students.

Dannyk I think you mentioned about our tradition being gone. It most certainly is not gone. Some things are gone yes, but many students still remember things that they used to do and are slowly bringing them back. Not many arenas around the league can compete with the way our fans get riled up at games.When the ice arena is full and everything is in place nothing can beat it, not Yost, and most certainly not Munn. I don't even know why people talk about Munn Ice arena like its so terrible, last two times I've been there it was more of a library than a sports arena.

Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:22 pm
by McConvey
dannyk wrote: Personally I like the old school feel of the arena, and the new lights and boards are nice, but a rink like Miami, and traditions at UM, MSU are hard to beat. I doubt many teams are playing up the fact that they got new boards. I doubt fans at North Dakota would be fired up about new boards.
I definitely see what you're driving at, but I don't think North Dakota is the fairest comparison. To my knowledge, none of the other 58 teams in the country has/had a multi-millionaire alum donate $100 million for their hockey arena.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:34 am
by bigdog
Niz, 2 or 3 times out of the whole last years season. I'd say there is an attendance problem.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:29 am
by The Niz
dog, with an almost sellout 3 times, and good crowds the rest of the season, I'd say there wasn't an attendance problem, and there sitll isn't. People are going to the games and cheering loud and having fun. We're doing just fine with crowd support.

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 1:31 pm
by bgbill
We haven't had a capacity crowd in a long time . Since the north end addition, there have been 21 full houses ('89-'90 thru '96-'97).

Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 10:27 pm
by Dublin Falcon
As I posted over the Summer - in the past 17 years, BG's "average" finish in the CCHA was a little less than a 6th place finish. No NCAA bids. Is that acceptable/reasonable or not? If not - what are our expectations for this program?