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New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 10:12 am
by fish87
3 Points for a Regulation/OT win
2 Points for a Shootout win
1 Point for a Shootout loss
0 Points for an Regulation/OT Loss
Here is the release:
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5 more days til the puck drops, Go Falcons!
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:40 pm
by psc2009
There are things that make less sense than this new system... but not many.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:00 pm
by DWhite21
It's strange that you get more points for an overtime win than a shootout win, and one point for a shootout loss but not an overtime loss. Maybe they're trying to handicap the shootout because everyone knows it's a terrible way to decide a game.
In the NHL if you lose in overtime or in a shootout you pick up one point, and if you win in OT, regulation or in the shootout you pick up two points. That seems to make a little more sense.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:17 pm
by VDub26Falcon
Getting more points in OT than a SO makes complete sense to me. If you finish the job up properly, you should be rewarded. A Shoot-Out, while I like them, would be the equivalent of having to kickers start at the 30 and move back 5 yards after each make, until one of them missed. You think you should get as many points for that as you do if you beat a team in regulation, when there are more than 2 players involved at a time? I like the new points system and I wish the NHL would implement something like that!
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:04 pm
by DWhite21
VDub26Falcon wrote:Getting more points in OT than a SO makes complete sense to me. If you finish the job up properly, you should be rewarded. A Shoot-Out, while I like them, would be the equivalent of having to kickers start at the 30 and move back 5 yards after each make, until one of them missed. You think you should get as many points for that as you do if you beat a team in regulation, when there are more than 2 players involved at a time? I like the new points system and I wish the NHL would implement something like that!
I guess that does sorta make sense. Like you and I said, they're probably doing it because they know that shootouts aren't a great way to decide a game.
I just don't think that a team that loses in overtime should get 0 points. Then again, if they gave a team a point for an OT loss they'd only be able to give the winner of that game 2 points and not the 3 that they now get, or else you'd have a game that's worth 4 points.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:26 pm
by Lord_Byron
This makes sense. Giving one point for a shoot out loss would essentially be the same as giving one point for a tie --like they used to do before shootouts.
In other words, if you are tied after regulation and overtime, you get a point. If you win the shootout lottery, you get an extra point.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:56 pm
by BGFalconfromCincy
Lord_Byron wrote:This makes sense. Giving one point for a shoot out loss would essentially be the same as giving one point for a tie --like they used to do before shootouts.
Yeah the article mentions that in the national rankings and RPI that being in a shootout, no matter a win or lose in it, will be looked at as a tie in those rankings.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:07 pm
by rood
I still hate shootouts and fail to understand what is wrong with ending a game in a tie. At least this system recognizes that a shootout win isn't a "real" win and should motivate teams to keep the tempo up at the end of a close game or in overtime.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 7:41 pm
by psc2009
rood wrote:I still hate shootouts and fail to understand what is wrong with ending a game in a tie. At least this system recognizes that a shootout win isn't a "real" win and should motivate teams to keep the tempo up at the end of a close game or in overtime.
I could not agree more. Hockey rolled along fine for 100 years with tie games and we seemed to survive. The NHL added the shootout to try to draw fans in such hockey hotbeds as Nashville, Atlanta and Miami. It doesn't mean that hockey diehards in the CCHA have to put up with it. But, that's just my opinion.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 12:41 pm
by toddpav
Shootouts are for the fans... nothing more. And I like the new scoring system. Is does place more importance on the weekend series than ever before. It should be interesting to see how the changes play out.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 1:10 pm
by rood
Oddly enough the new points system would not have made much difference last season in the final standings. Ferris would have finished ahead of UNO and had home ice in the first round and we would have finished ahead of MSU and lost to Northern instead of losing to OSU. Psychologically it may have affected how teams played in OT and thereby changed the standings significantly as some teams would drive harder to get the full 3 point win or take stupid chances that cost you the game. But just based on last years outcomes, not much difference.
I worked out all the standings but left my notes in the office and I don't want to do it again. I can post the full comparison tomorrow if anybody cares.
Re: New Points System in the CCHA
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:01 pm
by NWLB
So if....wait, no, then if......ummm, what if.....
