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drinking scandal
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:38 pm
by dannyk
Don Lucia and the Gopher hockey pogram could find themselves under NCAA sanctions. A local tv news station put udercover cameras in at a college bar and caught a handful of underage Gophers as well as future recruits boozing many times over a 2 month period. I know that this goes on at basically every college and the Gophers just hapened to get caught. Brandon and Dakich do not allow any of their players to go to bars even if they are 21. While at the same time it is not uncommon to see most of the hockey team out during the summer and during the season. Should Pooch adopt the same rules as football and basketball? Any comments
Re: drinking scandal
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:09 pm
by TG1996
dannyk wrote:Should Pooch adopt the same rules as football and basketball? Any comments
If Pooch instituted such a policy, Brathaus would be out of business.
I think that monitoring it is very important, especially after the embarrassing situation the hockey team faced early last year, but for the of age kids, I also think that you can't have them on a leash all the time.
Re: drinking scandal
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:16 pm
by Bleeding Orange
TG1996 wrote:dannyk wrote:Should Pooch adopt the same rules as football and basketball? Any comments
If Pooch instituted such a policy, Brathaus would be out of business.
I think that monitoring it is very important, especially after the embarrassing situation the hockey team faced early last year, but for the of age kids, I also think that you can't have them on a leash all the time.
I really don't mean to be sarcastic here, but were Pooch to institute some sort of anti-drinking or anti-bar policy for this team, you would immediately witness our recruiting go straight down the tubes. There is no excuse for underage players, but hockey players that are of age love to drink. I remember talking with some members of the '84 team last year about this (especially one sure-sticked goalie...), and as it turns out, hockey players have always loved to drink. I suppose they are kind of like lumberjacks, in that regard. 8)
Posted: Thu Dec 15, 2005 10:15 pm
by BGSU33
Drinking scandal??? What does Frank Solich have to do with college hockey??? Sorry, I couldn't resisit a jab on Solich there.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:41 am
by BGDrew
Also realize alot of our players are from Canada where the drinking age is 19.
If Brandon has a rule against football players at bars, I can count more than a few players who I've seen at Uptown on Saturday nights.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 1:04 am
by pdt1081
BGDrew wrote:Also realize alot of our players are from Canada where the drinking age is 19.
If Brandon has a rule against football players at bars, I can count more than a few players who I've seen at Uptown on Saturday nights.
Back when Don Woods travelled with the team, he used to walk into bars on road trips before the coach (I think it was Mason at the time). Anyways, if there were any players in there he'd tell them they had five minutes before coach walked in. Most of the time, they found the back door.
I could definately see Paluch having a rule against drinking/going to bars the nights before games. There have been many times fans have wondered why the team looks so dead on the ice at times...usually the second game in a weekend after winning the first.
Re: drinking scandal
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 6:33 am
by Freddie
dannyk wrote: Should Pooch adopt the same rules as football and basketball? Any comments
If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Pooch has rules, and the players know what they are.
FWIT..if Minnesota finds itself getting NCAA sanctions on this, it won't be because of the underage drinking...the NCAA violations involve players trading their comp tickets for freebies at the bar.
Re: drinking scandal
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:32 am
by PGY Tiercel
Bleeding Orange wrote:
I suppose they are kind of like lumberjacks, in that regard. 8)
Do they also like to wear high heels, suspendies and a bra
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 8:50 am
by BGFan
The other thing that needs to be considered is the fact that a large number of hockey players coming into the program are already at a legal drinking age. That's not to say that we haven't had some younger players come in to the program (little Siggy was probably the youngest), but it's not the norm. Most players spend a couple of years in the Juniors after HS before going to college. That seems to be changing a little bit with programs competing for players at a much earlier age now (look at our current recruit list for example) but it's still not the norm.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:31 am
by MACMAN
Frankly I could care les if any of them are inthe bars. I know why they dont want them int he bars as stupid things seem to just "happen" around the bars.
An 18 year old is old enough to vote, fight, be sue, killed in the chair for crimes and by god drink in my eyes. Should the youth of today put out a vote to lower the drinking age back to 18 I would sign, support and then vote for it. i hope some one has the gumption to start up a petition.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:38 am
by transfer2BGSU
MACMAN wrote:An 18 year old is old enough to vote, fight, be sue, killed in the chair for crimes and by god drink in my eyes. Should the youth of today put out a vote to lower the drinking age back to 18 I would sign, support and then vote for it. i hope some one has the gumption to start up a petition.
The 18 drinking age was forced upon the states by Elizabeth Dole (Secretary of Transportation) and her boss, Ronald Reagan.
States were told if they did not raise the legal drinking age to 21, they would lose highway funding.
About three years prior to this mandate, voters in the state of Ohio voted down an amendment that would have raised the drinking age to 21. I believe bar owners were responsible for the large turnout as they registered students to vote. This may have been 1983 as I beleive I was still in high school when the vote came about.
Democratic spin coming....
So when college students want to complain about the drinking age, I ask if they voted? And did they vote Republican? If they did, well - that serves them right.
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:59 am
by TG1996
transfer2BGSU wrote:Democratic spin coming....
So when college students want to complain about the drinking age, I ask if they voted? And did they vote Republican? If they did, well - that serves them right.[/color]
So do you also ask if they drive a car? And if they say yes, blame them for the oil shortages in the late '70s??
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:05 pm
by transfer2BGSU
TG1996 wrote:So do you also ask if they drive a car? And if they say yes, blame them for the oil shortages in the late '70s??
NO.
But I guess we could blame their parents! After all, if they hadn't been he-ing and she-ing in the back seat of the car, maybe we would have more oil and fewer kids. Good one TG!
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:19 pm
by dannyk
I agree we should never have the team geting hammered at ziggys after a friday nigh win, which occasionaly happens. I think football players might be able to go out a bit in the offeseason but their 6 am workouts put a damper on that. If we want to be an elite program like michigan, BC, and most of the WCHA, some of the off ice stuff needs to at least be kept under control.
Re: drinking scandal
Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2005 12:24 pm
by 1987alum
Bleeding Orange wrote:I remember talking with some members of the '84 team last year about this (especially one sure-sticked goalie...), and as it turns out, hockey players have always loved to drink.
Boy, the stories some of us could tell ... two come to mind ...
