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Face it guys....we've been spoiled rotten by the ladies for the past 8-9 YEARS....this team may have some starters back, but .... 1. They're not a Deep team, with only 10 players dressed for most games..
2. They're not the consistent shooting team, we''ve come to know... You're right, beat Dayton and Central ( a real smack down), and now lose to WMU, a sub .500 team. When I looked at the overall stats... take around THIRTY more shots, out rebound your opponent, fewer fouls etc. etc. I say, HOW the heck can you lose? Try 27% shooting for the game, after 17% in the 1st half...and....let your opponent shoot 50%. We don't play the consistent defense we have seen in the past.
3. Not going to point fingers, but there aren't any vocal leaders on this team. Halfhill probably comes closest, but the true vets (seniors) don't seem to have that "fire in the belly" attitude that sparks others. ](*,)
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This is the most schizoid team in BG history. And it's probably for all the reasons already mentioned here.

The big question is this: how much is coaching playing a role in the very, very inconsistent play we've seen from this team so far?

No, I'm not indicting the head coach and saying let's get rid of her. I'm saying she's a new head coach and probably doesn't have the skill set she's going to have in 5 years that might prevent games like this from happening.

There's no doubt a big part of this is personnel, but we've seen too wide of a swing in games for me to say that's the only thing that's happening this season.

Hopefully, with some experience and some new blood, things will be much better in the years ahead. This year may still have some highlights ahead, but I'm not going to count on it at this point.
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I think Den hit the nail on the head...we just aren't as deep as past seasons and lack the fire of past teams. BG usually plays stout D but this year has been a different story.

We're 15-8, 6-4 MAC with 6 games to go. We'll see what happens the rest of the way but the only way we're getting to the postseason is winning the Tournament.
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I think Roos is a good coach, & in time I think she will be a VERY good coach.

However, let's not forget that Curt Miller was one of the greatest coaches in MAC history. It's hard to be the coach that replaces the legend, & I think we're fortunate that Jennifer decided to stay at BG rather than go with the rest of the staff to IU. She will be a very good coach in time, but she is in her first season as a head coach & can't be expected to produce the same results that Coach Miller did.

Also, BG lost TWO seniors from last year. Slagle was a great leader both on and off the court, and I think Maribeth Giese was an incredible leader as well. I agree that we've been spoiled by the incredible success of the women's team over the years, and I also agree that the 2012-13 team can be maddening to watch at times. BUT, I also feel that this team is capable of producing something special in the MAC Tournament, & I'm looking forward to watching them over the next few months.
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Just wondering how many people have seen this group in person or travelled their schedule....you can complain all you want but that won't change any results YES we have been spoiled but the fire is there the team has walking wounded that nobody is really sure about at this point We must go with who we have and that's all we can do I have seen a lot of the road games & the schedule isn't pretty especially right now Yesterday the bunnies were too hard or too soft if they went in we wouldn't be questioning just celebrating a win. Get off Jennifer's back she is trying more combinations & subsitutions to help us. She doing it her way.....different coaching styles can be effective plus people are tired of being beaten by BG so they bring out all the stops when they win they act like they've won the NCAA tourney. We have forced teams to get better and 6 new coaches in the league have change scouts. Women who missed shots yesterday were in shooting today so they do care.....can you support them too????
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I see a definite lack of senior leadership out of our starters this year, not to mention there doesn't seem to be the resolve we've had in recent years. I think Bailey & Jill should start a couple games to motivate a couple of the starters to up their game. It seems we play on o the level of our opponent too often. Girls, it's time to dig a little deeper. We need a player to go to in crunch time, but right now we don't have that.
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BGSUE wrote:Just wondering how many people have seen this group in person or travelled their schedule....you can complain all you want but that won't change any results YES we have been spoiled but the fire is there the team has walking wounded that nobody is really sure about at this point We must go with who we have and that's all we can do I have seen a lot of the road games & the schedule isn't pretty especially right now Yesterday the bunnies were too hard or too soft if they went in we wouldn't be questioning just celebrating a win. Get off Jennifer's back she is trying more combinations & subsitutions to help us. She doing it her way.....different coaching styles can be effective plus people are tired of being beaten by BG so they bring out all the stops when they win they act like they've won the NCAA tourney. We have forced teams to get better and 6 new coaches in the league have change scouts. Women who missed shots yesterday were in shooting today so they do care.....can you support them too????

Sue, While I haven't had the chance to see them in person, other than the UT game, when we were able to take a weekend off from family caregiving, I HAVE seen several games either on TV or via computer hookup...my comments re: a "short" bench with only 10 players dressed, I think addresses the fact that we've been "understaffed" so to speak. But I also don't see us play with the usual fire that we've gotten used to, which is why I said we've been spoiled over past 8-9 yrs. I look for the seniors in particular to lead, or at least some 3rd yr. players. I DO see Jillian show that fire that we've come to expect from a point guard. And her rebounding in particular shows that perhaps more than anything. I just think we're disappointed rather than critical of these ladies. I'm hopiing Jennifer can turn things around. Perhaps her comments that the team needs a break is accurate...at least I hope that's the case. :goodman:
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I want Salinas to see more minutes...she's a tough kid...almost gritty....if not downright pugnacious
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Although Alexis is wearing a protective mask and Jaz is out with her foot injury, we still have a very talented team. We've all seen what we're capable of as we recall what we did to Dayton & Central. But we wonder why the girls don't play like that all the time. There are so many factors... confidence, preparation (mental AND physical), coaching decisions (defensive schemes and utilizing players in certain situations), etc. It's always nice to see another player "step up" when others are having "off nights". But we need to see game-to-game consistency out of several players, especially our upper classmen, where those "off-nights" will become a thing of the past. I agree with the previous poster that Jillian hustles all over the floor, picking up loose balls and getting rebounds in the midst of much taller players. The ball doesn't just bounce her way.... she goes and gets it! We can't be satisfied to coast along with a roster full of very good players. Good players will put up great numbers SOME of the time, but it's the GREAT players that put up great numbers MOST of the time. I believe we have some potential GREAT players on this team. We just need to learn to IMPOSE OUR WILL on the opposition at ALL times. I believe we have the team to accomplish a great finish this year, but each player has to "step up" collectively, each and every game, the rest of the way out, and not depend on other players to help pick up the slack. LADY FALCONS, show NO mercy to the rest of your opponents! Go get'em!!!
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For the last time PLEASE this team has not & never was referred to as "Lady Falcons" They are Falcons. The female Perigrine falcon is falcon while the male is tercel. Also it's Women's basketball they are gender female but they aren't girls that's high school. I just want eveyone to realize that all the teams are different remember Lo and Tracy who had the fire there? People are sick of losing to BG & will do anything to beat us I've seen it. "Cat" is getting used to the system and the opponents. Sometimes Jullian has the ball drop in her hands but she hustles too. Lex said she couldn't see out of the mask so glad she's still healthy.
You all have solutions to all the problems they are having. Are you sitting in the stands cheering for them and encouraging them? Sit at your computer and talk your talk but they will do what they are coached to do and we can only live with the results. Can I critique your work effort every day? don't really want too. Two full time jobs which they haven't quit either look at the schedule follow them around put miles on your vehicle visit the places they play listen to Jennifer's post game remarks WMU & NIU both terrible shooting gyms both backgrounds well away from court MU is a concert hall all these are road games
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Everyone is still working if they have quit then I'd be upset just get over it's different & the past is over this is what we have. I'll continue to defend them easy to be critical but no way to give input
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Please don't lecture people on how to be a fan....it's really annoying.
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I'd like to see Salinas more as well...she seems gutsy.
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