BG vs Malone tonight...

[Falconfreak90]

Just unreal how this mighty program has fallen...

[FalconTurf]

Couple of points:
1. We see the athletic department begging for more support and it automatically is interpreted as an excuse for poor performance. If we keep thinking that all the support is supposed to come from students (fees, tuition, etc.) we are mistaken. We need more boosters and alumni on board.
2. We are a stepping stone. Doyt Perry and Harold Anderson are unlikely to be reincarnated and maintain success for 10 years or more. In addition to coaches many in the athletic department are also looking for more pay and prestige. All we can ask is that they do something here that demonstrates they deserve as much.
3. The might do fall. Miami is/was the breadbasket of coaches in football. Ohio U certainly had success and paid for a name-brand coach along with additional investment. Neither program should be envied by BG who has more MAC championships and 2 in the last 4 seasons.

I certainly hope for more than this school year has provided at BG but this happens and we will rise again. Hopefully sooner than later.

[factman]

The AD has been quoted as saying that if we sold out every game, it would only raise us from 12th up one spot to 11th in the league, as far as budgets go. We obviously need other lines of revenue, to increase the budget to where it needs to be, including from the trustees and private giving.

[doogkid]

Coaching staff needs to go now.

[FalconTurf]

The AD has been quoted as saying that if we sold out every game, it would only raise us from 12th up one spot to 11th in the league, as far as budgets go. We obviously need other lines of revenue, to increase the budget to where it needs to be, including from the trustees and private giving.

Absolutely. Simply buying tickets is not enough. Falcon Club memberships and those that can go above and beyond financially are essential to make any changes. Jack Vivian was an instructor (sports management) at BGSU in the late 80's and was very clear that endowing scholarships was the key to maintaining the programs. Around that time I read an article in SI about USC endowing their football program (http://www.si.com/vault/2016/06/13/old-school-spirit). BGSU is late to the party but this is probably the only way we can stay at this level. We simply can't rely on the student body (courtesy of the trustees) to support the programs because that is building a foundation on a house of cards.

[FalconTurf]

Coaching staff needs to go now.

You make an offer to buy them out and partially endow the new staff the AD MAY meet with you. Outside of that I doubt anything is going to change real soon.

[Flipper]

Our guards are having terrible seasons shooting the ball...coach Moore was touted for his work with guards at Canisus....if that's what he's doing here...it ain't working.

The women actually have as tough schedule OOC. ..but the good teams have beaten them like they stole something and they lost to Malone.......Malone

[guest44]

Fair points across the board. I guess I want to know what our AD and his/her assistants performance is graded upon? Generating money, teams performance, and selecting coaches, would be top 3 in my book. Currently, BG is failing badly in all three. These people make healthy six figures, they have the local media wrapped around the finger, and basically come and go on their own terms. What a career huh?

[guest44]

To further my point, if BG has no money to ever buy out coaches. 1) Pick better coaches 2) Stop giving 5 year contracts to coaches who would take less. 3) Hold those who select coaches that lock down programs, accountable.

[FalconTurf]

To further my point, if BG has no money to ever buy out coaches. 1) Pick better coaches 2) Stop giving 5 year contracts to coaches who would take less. 3) Hold those who select coaches that lock down programs, accountable.

1) I would believe it is in the administration's best interest to pick the best coaches possible. I can't believe that they decided to pick the 2nd, 3rd or 41st best candidate because they know if the programs are successful it will boost their resume.
2) Who gives less than 5 year contracts in DI college athletics? A coach must believe they have time to recruit and get the benefits of those recruits.
3) Those who select the coaches ultimately will benefit or suffer based on those choices with their resume.

I get what you are saying but I'm not sure what you want. We could be the Cleveland Browns and fire coaches every year and the GM (or AD in our case) every other year. It hasn't worked for them and it won't work for us either. You must have stability and patience. It's not like we've had no success for a generation at BG in anything like the New Browns have experienced.

[guest44]

I'm not sure why any school with the budget of BG gives any coach a 5 year contract. But given they do, you better hit more often than not. 1 year of success and they leave, If you whiff, the program is torn to pieces for years. In men's basketball, BG kept coaches around and now have 15 years worth of alumni who have no awareness or care for the team at all.

Those who select will benefit for sure, I'm not sure at BG, they really suffer. The Sentinel will do whatever they ask. They get no pressure anywhere. They come and go on their terms. It's been happening since the 90's.

My whole point is that we can all talk about coaches coming and going, but until BG re-establishes some standards, the current trend of what Kingston left behind will continue.

[FalconTurf]

The Sentinel will do whatever they ask.

The people I sit near at the Stroh don't seem to get their opinions from the S-T. Those happy with the women's bball are the ones who frequently converse with coaches and players and are convinced the program will turn itself around. Simply, they know the Coach Roos and like her as a person along with all others connected to the program. I think at a small town mid-major you have difficulty getting critical coverage unless there is an ethical, moral or criminal problem because social circles are so small and we get to like the coaches as people, win or lose.

As far as Kingston goes I do believe he wanted total control and was very disturbed by any mention that things weren't as good as presented. I about got my head bit off when I asked when they would continue renovating the Ice Arena. He settled down when I responded that despite all the money spent the urinals still leaked water all over the floor on the west side and the concessions were not very convenient or efficient in their current locations. He listened and acknowledged this concern but he never spoke with me again. My son still believes CK hated me but I tend to believe he recognized he lost his cool embarrassing himself. I believe one reason he left was he had trouble blowing sunshine at critical thinkers who questioned him and he found a new type of job.

[Flipper]

I think CK benefited quite a bit initially because he followed Greg Christopher..a man who was viewed only somewhat more favorably than pubic lice. I think Kingston bailed because he didn't really have the skill set needed to land a major gig and if he stuck around it would probably become apparent that he didn't have the skill set to do this one either. His methodology in hiring Jinks was comical...he did almost no research, and hired a guy who hadn't even applied for the job...without even giving him a real going over in an interview. Jinks may well work out here...but we're paying him right around $500k per year to be our pig in a poke when there were clearly more established pigs at the market. Hell...he nearly tripled Dino's salary to spend two years babysitting Clawson's team. We probably could have got him for half that.

[elmrfudd]

What's sad is that this coaching staff is not capable of coaching at any level above high school varsity, as this team is not playing at a level higher than that. True, our players were good in high school, but to play at the D1 level, you better take those good players and make them great. It's not happening. I know Lambert and Santoro are only sophomores, but from what I see, they are the only two players on this squad who are capable of fulfilling leadership roles. I would challenge them to step up, and lead this team, but they need to get their own game together first. I think we have very capable freshmen, too, but who is going to help make them great? We need to stop shooting ourselves in the foot 8 out of every 10 times down the floor. Sydney and Carly, it's time to get your acts together and start playing like you're capable of, and start leading this team. We all know there's no leadership on the coaching staff. It's time for someone to step up and have the guts to make this team better. It's not fair to the players or the fans to be going through this kind of embarrassment because no one knows how to do their job the way it should be done! Just a little bit of venting on my part.

[guest44]

Oh I have my issues with Kingston. The Jans situation was totally avoidable if anyone in the department had the spine to bring attention to the drinking prior to the actual situation. I met Jans for the first time after you could tell he had several drinks in him. That was before he had ever coached a game. Most people knew it. However, if BG REALLY wanted to win, they would have addressed it. What ever happened with those football coaches who got in the bar fight? Must not have been on video. Did any local media ask Jinks to address it publicly? Seems like it just went away. Has anyone asked how the Stroh Center was having money stolen, and nobody noticed for 5 or 6 years? Just all how wonderful, hard working, and lucky to have them articles about the BG athletic administration. For a while this past year, you would have swore the BG equipment guy, would be endorsed for president by the Sentinel.

But, back to the now when Kingston bails with all major sports locked into coaches for years to come, with no money to do anything. Since they can't ask Kingston anymore what the hell is going on, can someone ask those assistants of his , that he hired? Those who are only at BG because he brought them here, and won't leave until it is best for them. I'll ask it. What the hell are you doing for BGSU?