Legacy of Departing Players

[fredthefalcon]

I decided to update the numbers for our 4 multi year players that departed after this very successful season. This would be Transfers Elissa Brett, Nyla Hampton, and Jocelyn Tate as well as Sr. Grad Kadie Hempfling. All will be listed in at least one key stat in BG WBB history in the next update. It looks like all are in the top 65 of career scoring, Tate would be #62, Nyla #49, while both Kadie and Elissa are 1,000 point scorers. Brett is at 1,358 which is 15th all time and Kadie is at 1281 which is 17th. Both of the latter are also in the top echelons of BG career rebounding with Kadie (808) at 8th and Elissa with 759 11th. Kadie is the only one of the 4 that shows up in each of scoring, rebounding, assists, and steals. Kadie has 431 assists many of which were early in her career and ranks 6th all time. Nyla is 14th at 275. In the last category of steals. Nyla of course broke the BG single season record; however, by leaving BG early she forfeited a sure shot to be #1 in assists. She in fact is tied for second and just 3 steals short of topping that category. Hempfling ended up in 16th position in this category as well. So legacy wise and maybe even BG Hall of Fame wise, Hempfling likely has the best case as an all around player although her numbers benefited from playing 5 years. I think she is well liked by the BG community and was a leader of the team even this year. So, very possible she will join the Hall sometime.

Brett could have really helped her case for the BG Hall by playing one more year. It was very likely she would at least be the #4 scorer all time and maybe even pass Allie Mann for third. She would also jump way up into the BG career rebound leaders. Alas, that will not happen. She still may get Hall consideration in the future but what would be more likely is that the 2022-23 team will go into the Hall in mass in the long term.

[Flipper]

I like the idea of putting the entire 2022-23 team into the Hall. They were definitely a sum that seemed to be better than its parts.

Also...it's been 10 years. Time to put Ali Mann into the HOF

[factman]

They didn’t WIN anything!

[Flipper]

They won the hearts of everyone on campus!!

I haven't seen a team generate that kind of response here in a long, long time

[BillyLP]

They won the hearts of everyone on campus!!

I haven't seen a team generate that kind of response here in a long, long time

Yeah, and if you don't consider making the WNIT Fab Four winning anything, then I don't know what to tell you, factman. Those 4-5 year players are the ones who took the program from a low point to a place so high they got their coach a cool million per year. Most excited people have been for the women's team on campus since the Sweet 16 run.

[factman]

I’m not saying they didn’t have a great year and Thrywon my heart too, BUT I don’t think that qualifies a team for HOF induction..

[mbenecke]

I respect your opinion, factman. And you’re more than entitled to feel the way you do, so no shade here. But…

Tied for the most wins in program history. I think they’re qualified for the HOF. It was a historic run, and this team will not be forgotten by anyone, anytime soon. Plus, it wouldn’t be bad to have future national champion Robyn Fralick back in town for the weekend to represent the program…

[Flipper]

I’m not saying they didn’t have a great year and Thrywon my heart too, BUT I don’t think that qualifies a team for HOF induction..

I can see the logic...on this one...I'm going more with emotion

[Roll Along!]

The Hall of Fame page says this about team inductees....

Teams
- Must be ten (10) years removed from last date of competition for BGSU
- Must have made significant achievement (ie. Conference/National Championship) to honor and elevate the reputation and legacy of Bowling Green State University

Three teams are in the Hall of Fame. Two of them won a national championship and one was a national championship runner-up. I don't see how you could conceivably put this team in and not open Pandora's Box to EVERY conference championship team getting inducted. The women's Sweet Sixteen team isn't even in the Hall of Fame.

The team was great, and I watched and followed them all year, but they are NOT Hall of Fame worthy. At least not unless you severely lower the bar for induction.

[fredthefalcon]

The Hall of Fame page says this about team inductees....

Teams
- Must be ten (10) years removed from last date of competition for BGSU
- Must have made significant achievement (ie. Conference/National Championship) to honor and elevate the reputation and legacy of Bowling Green State University.

I think it must be time to redraft these requirements for it is highly unlikely any BG team will win a National Championship in any sport. I suppose Hockey is still possible with a Herb Brooks type coach and NHL caliber players but still unlikely. So that would leave having a Conference Championship be the primary requirement; however, sometimes a loss of a conference title is just due to certain situations, injuries, a call or two, or just a super team within the conference that you battle to the finish but fall short.

BTW when I initially wrote this subject it was more about the individual players and just threw out the option (however unlikely) for a HOF team honor. Particularly since 3 of these players chose to cut off their cumulative individual accomplishments at BG.

[pdt1081]

I think it must be time to redraft these requirements for it is highly unlikely any BG team will win a National Championship in any sport. I suppose Hockey is still possible with a Herb Brooks type coach and NHL caliber players but still unlikely. So that would leave having a Conference Championship be the primary requirement; however, sometimes a loss of a conference title is just due to certain situations, injuries, a call or two, or just a super team within the conference that you battle to the finish but fall short.

BTW when I initially wrote this subject it was more about the individual players and just threw out the option (however unlikely) for a HOF team honor. Particularly since 3 of these players chose to cut off their cumulative individual accomplishments at BG.

No, it does not need rewritten. It's the "Hall of FAME," not the "Hall of SO CLOSE."

[mbenecke]

I think redefining the parameters to be realistic for the changing landscape of college athletics is probably a good idea. We’ll probably never win another team national title in any sport, so why exclude all-time great BG teams from being honored for a rule/requirement that doesn’t really apply anymore?

[footballguy51]

Notice, the championship is listed as an example, hence i.e. With how it’s written, requiring a significant achievement, means if a team sets the NCAA record for most lopsided victory, or makes a deep run in a tournament while drawing major attention, then you could argue that they qualify. Significant is an objective concept. Likewise, elevating the reputation and legacy of BGSU is also somewhat objective.

[Roll Along!]

Within the MAC, it's been proven that men's soccer can compete for a national championship. Northern Arizona recently won a cross country national championship. Quinnipiac is your defending hockey national champion. Will it take a "Hall of Fame" effort for it to happen? Absolutely. But it is certainly still possible given the right set of circumstances. Why lower the standards for "great but not Hall of Fame worthy" teams? I'm sure every BG conference championship team has a story and a reason for consideration for induction. It just muddies the water too much in my opinion. Watching the team this year was awesome and, just like Coolio, they took us all on a fantastic journey, but there have been at least a half dozen (or more) women's basketball teams at BG that have done more.

[factman]