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bgsufalcon24 wrote:Unfortunately, the ESPN/USA TODAY poll won't be updated this week, we were doing pretty well there, and would likely be on the verge of cracking the top 25 this week. At 16-2, it's a joke that we aren't in as it is. A win over Eastern Michigan on Wednesday is sure to get us there, assuming we don't trip up over the weekend against whoever we play then.

Dont be surprised if we sweep this week and still aren't ranked in the polls.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:Unfortunately, the ESPN/USA TODAY poll won't be updated this week, we were doing pretty well there, and would likely be on the verge of cracking the top 25 this week. At 16-2, it's a joke that we aren't in as it is. A win over Eastern Michigan on Wednesday is sure to get us there, assuming we don't trip up over the weekend against whoever we play then.

Dont be surprised if we sweep this week and still aren't ranked in the polls.
no kidding. as (i believe) was stated earlier, there is still a large talent (perceived or actual) and, more importantly, recognition fissure in women's college basketball. moreso than football, this is still a huge case of the haves and have nots. don't be surprised if we win out, including the mac tournament, and end up in the sweet sixteen without having ever been ranked.
i said it a few weeks ago and i'll say it again. i think that this team has a chance to open some eyes to non major conference D1 women's hoops.
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jacojdm wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:Unfortunately, the ESPN/USA TODAY poll won't be updated this week, we were doing pretty well there, and would likely be on the verge of cracking the top 25 this week. At 16-2, it's a joke that we aren't in as it is. A win over Eastern Michigan on Wednesday is sure to get us there, assuming we don't trip up over the weekend against whoever we play then.

Dont be surprised if we sweep this week and still aren't ranked in the polls.
no kidding. as (i believe) was stated earlier, there is still a large talent (perceived or actual) and, more importantly, recognition fissure in women's college basketball. moreso than football, this is still a huge case of the haves and have nots. don't be surprised if we win out, including the mac tournament, and end up in the sweet sixteen without having ever been ranked.
i said it a few weeks ago and i'll say it again. i think that this team has a chance to open some eyes to non major conference D1 women's hoops.
Forget about the sweet sixteen. If this team wins out and finishes 28-2, I'm sorry, but I'd consider us a good shot to make the final four. I realize that we'd have to beat either Connecticuit, Duke, Tennesee, or North Carolina most likely to get there, but I feel this team is capable of just about anything right now. Now granted I don't think we will finish quite that well, but the possibility is still there that we could shock a lot of people in March.

If we beat EMU on Wednesday, it will be big. Kent State comes to Anderson Arena sometime during February, and that's pretty much our only other big test, so if we win both of those, it would take an upset loss for us not to be 26-2 entering the MAC tournament. If we are 26-2 entering the MAC tourney, chalk us up for an at large bid regardless of what happens in the MAC tourney because it would be unprecedented for a 3-loss team to not make the NCAA. They'd have to be on crack. Any trip ups on the way, especially if we have 4 losses or more, then we have to win the MAC tourney to get in. Either way, I don't think it will be a problem for this team.
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I'm not sure you're aware of the talent gap between upper echelon women's teams and second tier women's teams as compared to the men. It's not like it is in Men's b-ball, where a team like Kent State or Butler or Gonzaga a few years ago can make a run deep into the tourney. I think we are a top-25 team. But we're still in the lower part of that second-tier group.

There are vastly fewer really talented women than men. We have a very good team this year, one that is very likely to lose only one or two more games tops the entire season. But there are still about 10-15 teams in the country that beat us 9 out of 10 games on a neutral court. We are undersized and not athletic enough on the wings to hang with the Ohio States, LSUs, Dukes, Tennessees, etc. of the world. If we play out of our minds, and a top-10 team plays poorly, we would have a chance to win a game at the end. But unfortunately, that's not very likely.

The sweet 16 is possible for this team. Since we would probably be seeded 11-13, we would only have to face 2 middle-seeded teams. We would avoid a juggernaut until the sweet 16. The chances of us beating 2 of those top 10 teams in the same weekend to make the final four is very very very very very small. It's not impossible, but don't hold your breath.
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We are probably one 6'4" player away from being in the top tier. :idea:
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factman wrote:We are probably one 6'4" player away from being in the top tier. :idea:
You might be right. We could also use another athletic wing, but that sizeable post presence is the biggest thing we're missing if we want to compete with the big boys (girls).
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
factman wrote:We are probably one 6'4" player away from being in the top tier. :idea:
You might be right. We could also use another athletic wing, but that sizeable post presence is the biggest thing we're missing if we want to compete with the big boys (girls).
Wow. :shock: I've said basicly the same thing before I have gotten nothiging but return hate posts and the like for my comments. What J4H said doesn't mean he thinks our ladies are terrible or not good cuz they are, its just the truth. Yeah, we probably are a 6'4 or very athletic 6'2 wing player away from being top-tier mid-major team. We're on the verge of becoming what St. Francis was for a long time in their conference(Their really down this year) if we keep up the recruiting the way we have been doing.
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factman wrote:We are probably one 6'4" player away from being in the top tier. :idea:
You might be right. We could also use another athletic wing, but that sizeable post presence is the biggest thing we're missing if we want to compete with the big boys (girls).
Wow. :shock: I've said basicly the same thing before I have gotten nothiging but return hate posts and the like for my comments. What J4H said doesn't mean he thinks our ladies are terrible or not good cuz they are, its just the truth. Yeah, we probably are a 6'4 or very athletic 6'2 wing player away from being top-tier mid-major team. We're on the verge of becoming what St. Francis was for a long time in their conference(Their really down this year) if we keep up the recruiting the way we have been doing.
You misunderstood me. I think we're a dominant post and possibly an athletic wing away from being a top-tier national team - not a top-tier mid-major team like St. Francis. We already are St. Francis.

FWIW Falconboy, I think there is one big difference between this discussion and the ones you used to get flamed on. Size was brought up in this thread as a relevant part of the conversation. When you ran into trouble was when you interjected size in a derogatory fashion in 9 out of every 10 posts you made. It wasn't so much that people thought you were wrong every time, they were just really tired of hearing it.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
factman wrote:We are probably one 6'4" player away from being in the top tier. :idea:
You might be right. We could also use another athletic wing, but that sizeable post presence is the biggest thing we're missing if we want to compete with the big boys (girls).
Wow. :shock: I've said basicly the same thing before I have gotten nothiging but return hate posts and the like for my comments. What J4H said doesn't mean he thinks our ladies are terrible or not good cuz they are, its just the truth. Yeah, we probably are a 6'4 or very athletic 6'2 wing player away from being top-tier mid-major team. We're on the verge of becoming what St. Francis was for a long time in their conference(Their really down this year) if we keep up the recruiting the way we have been doing.
You misunderstood me. I think we're a dominant post and possibly an athletic wing away from being a top-tier national team - not a top-tier mid-major team like St. Francis. We already are St. Francis.

FWIW Falconboy, I think there is one big difference between this discussion and the ones you used to get flamed on. Size was brought up in this thread as a relevant part of the conversation. When you ran into trouble was when you interjected size in a derogatory fashion in 9 out of every 10 posts you made. It wasn't so much that people thought you were wrong every time, they were just really tired of hearing it.
Okay whatever. However I dont' think we're St. Francis yet. We have obviously the talent they had to have had during their years of dominence but we havent' gotten to the NCAA's year in and year out just yet. I think we are well on our way to getting back there this year but it would only be our 2nd time there as St. Francis I belive made like 9 or 10 straight trips to the NCAA's before this down year of theirs.
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You have to compare teams based on the talent that they have. To say that our women aren't a team like St. Francis just because they went more times than us, that really isn't fair. These girls are building that tradition, and are that talented. You compare teams based on what one did have, or does have, and not because they have done something our girls haven't had the chance to do yet. Like a previous poster said, we are a very good team that can compete with a lot of people, but there is no way that we could compete and win against LSU, Duke, UNC, and a few others. I didn't put Tennessee in there, only because they aren't playing very well on the defensive side of ball, and if we had a normal shooting game for this team, we just might be able to pull off something on a neutral court. This assumption is not based on the fact that UK beat them, and that we played UK very close. Don't get me wrong, I am comparing what I have seen from Tenn, and what I have heard from our team on the radio.
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if we go we win 2maro, i wouldnt be surprised if we find ourselves in th top 25, unless people out there are still being idiots and give this team no respect...BEAT TOLEDO
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This team could win a couple of games in the tournament this year if the matchups are right. Remember, there have been years where the top 2 seeds get upset in round 2. Things like that happen. It's all about matchups and playing beatable teams for us.

Next year, however....watch out. I am predicting undefeated and a national Championship ;) OK maybe not...but I think a repeat of the Kent State mens' team run to the elite 8 isn't out of the question. This team will be scary in 2006-7
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Falcon30 wrote: This team will be scary in 2006-7
Seriously! I don't think anyone around here has even begun to think that far ahead, but as high as my hopes are for this team this year, they are infinately higher for next year! I mean, my God - look at our seniors next year. Unreal. And, with the season we are having this year, further imagine the recruiting class we will have coming in next year! :!:

Bowling Green State University is quickly becoming a huge, huge player in women's basketball. Hell, as good as EMU has been over the past few years, we are absolutely blowing them away in terms of talent and execution - I firmly believe that we are now, and will be next year, on par with some of the biggest players in women's college basketball. I can not honestly say that I have ever been prouder of my University than I am when I listen, and/or watch a BG women's basketball game. I never imagined myself a big WCB fan, but I am one of the biggest now. I watch Tennessee or Connecticut or LSU play now, and I honestly don't see that big of a talent gap between them and BG. I am so pumped for this team, words are insufficient to describe it.
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For what it's worth, CSTV.com (Jerry Palm's Bracketanica) projects Bowling Green to be No. 12 in the Bridgeport region of the NCAA tournament, playing against No. 5 North Carolina State in Chicago. Wasn't BG a 12 last year against Kansas State?
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Bleeding Orange wrote: Bowling Green State University is quickly becoming a huge, huge player in women's basketball.
I just wanted to jump in and add "again" at the end of your sentence.
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