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[BigGibber]

Don't look now but Akron is playing very well (they beat Eastern Michigan today) and they and Kent State are only one game behind us. We have to play at Akron and they played us very tough at AA as I recall. Don't count your chickens....

Our Falcons have already hatched - granted they're still growing throughout the season
Akron wasn't really that tough at AA. We beat them by 12 and we've grown a lot since then - turnovers are down (except for today), 2nd chance points are up, free-throw shooting is still great, points off TOs are up, bench points are still good. We're improving just about every game!

Go Falcons!

I applaud your confidence but I think we can all agree that when that game rolls around, Coach Miller will announce that we are the underdog.

[threestooges]

Don't look now but Akron is playing very well (they beat Eastern Michigan today) and they and Kent State are only one game behind us. We have to play at Akron and they played us very tough at AA as I recall. Don't count your chickens....

Our Falcons have already hatched - granted they're still growing throughout the season
Akron wasn't really that tough at AA. We beat them by 12 and we've grown a lot since then - turnovers are down (except for today), 2nd chance points are up, free-throw shooting is still great, points off TOs are up, bench points are still good. We're improving just about every game!

Go Falcons!

I applaud your confidence but I think we can all agree that when that game rolls around, Coach Miller will announce that we are the underdog.

BigGibber is exactly right about Akron. They are rolling right now. I think they had 2 MAC road wins in the last 4 years, and they've got at least 3 this year. They played us a lot tougher than you might think. We got that early lead on them, but they never went away. The game at their place is going to be a real battle. Those yahoos at the end of the court are always merciless toward Curt and the team, and now they've actually got a good team to cheer for.

[Dukefann9er]

On a neutral floor BG is a better team. They were the better team for 35 of the 40 mins. I thought the close games at Hartford..Vandy etc would help here. Both teams turned over the ball a lot, but BGs last few in the last 1 min or so were key.

See ya in Cleveland!

[bgsufalcon24]

On a neutral floor BG is a better team. They were the better team for 35 of the 40 mins. I thought the close games at Hartford..Vandy etc would help here. Both teams turned over the ball a lot, but BGs last few in the last 1 min or so were key.

See ya in Cleveland!

Actually, if you watched the game against Vanderbilt, the ending of the Toledo game wasn't surprising in the least. Against Vandy we got out to that huge first half lead, then did just about everything we could to give the game away in the 2nd half. We must've had 27, 28 turnovers in the game. The only reason we won was because Vandy couldn't do anything right themselves. I remember a 2 1/2 to 3 minute stretch in the second half where there were so many turnovers in a row by both teams that I don't think any shots were attempted.

Not being able to finish has been a MAJOR problem for us this season, we had two other games against Marist and Hartford where we were ahead late in the 2nd half and couldn't put the game away, and usually, turnovers and poor offensive execution were the culprits.

[nwofalconfan]

For anyone to think that it will be a cakewalk for any road team the rest of the year...you are fooling yourselves. We have to go on the road to Ball State (who beat UT in Muncie), Buffalo (who took UT to OT), as mentioned above Akron (when we beat them at home their star Murphy had an off game/sat out for extended periods of the game), not to mention Miami, who plays much better at home and CMU who really puts up the points at home.

Keep in mind, this is not all bad. For the conference and BG to get more respect, we can't have only 1 great team and a bunch of okay to bad teams.

I'm not saying that BG can't win the conference/tournament, just that everyone is getting better, and it won't be easy.

[bgsufalcon24]

For anyone to think that it will be a cakewalk for any road team the rest of the year...you are fooling yourselves. We have to go on the road to Ball State (who beat UT in Muncie), Buffalo (who took UT to OT), as mentioned above Akron (when we beat them at home their star Murphy had an off game/sat out for extended periods of the game), not to mention Miami, who plays much better at home and CMU who really puts up the points at home.

Keep in mind, this is not all bad. For the conference and BG to get more respect, we can't have only 1 great team and a bunch of okay to bad teams.

I'm not saying that BG can't win the conference/tournament, just that everyone is getting better, and it won't be easy.

You know, this is all well and good, but honestly, we've all heard this for years. The other MAC teams are tough, danger danger danger, blah blah blah, but in the end, BG hasn't lost more than 3 times in conference play since early last decade. Yes Akron is starting to play a lot better, but Buffalo a tough game? Please. Toledo was simply caught looking ahead to BG that night, Buffalo's horrible. Miami? Get outta here. They've fallen so far off the map the last few years it's not even funny. Plus, BG is going to be motivated to kick their butts after last year's defeat. Central could be interesting because of their up-tempo style, but historically BG has feasted on teams that don't play any defense, like CMU. And don't get me started on Kent State, who's about as big a paper tiger as there is in the MAC. We killed them in their house, so I don't see how they are gonna beat us at AA.

Bottom line is, if BG loses more than once the rest of the way, I'd be stunned.

[musicman2343]

Not to detract from the rest of the conversation, but I'd thought you'd all appreciate this. This is from the game notes on bgsufalcons.com:

* The win was Toledo's first over BGSU in more than seven years, since a 70-62 decision at then-Savage Hall on Jan. 15, 2003 ... since that time, the Falcons had won five home games, four road games and three neutral-site affairs (all in Cleveland in the MAC Tournament) over the Midnight Blue and Gold.

* To put that date (Jan. 15, 2003) in context, BGSU's current freshman class was in sixth grade the last time the Falcons lost to the Rockets.

[tiznow]

Radio announcer: 'We have seen some very strange calls her today folks. This is why BG has the lead. These refs are favoring BG at the moment' Not once did he mention we are 6 for 12 shooting 3's. Always an excuse.

It sounds like Bob Lamey and Will Wolford called the game.

[nwofalconfan]

Maybe the reason they haven't lost more than 3 games is because this coaching staff has never taken any team for granted, and they don't let the players do so, either.

With that being said, did I say they were going to lose those games? No, I did not...I simply pointed out that they can't take anyone lightly...it is pretty evident to me that BG gets everyone's best effort, and an off night, foul trouble, etc. can jump up and bite anyone.

Hey this is just my opinion and no one has to agree with me...I hope they do have it easy the rest of the way...we will all see over the next few weeks.

The one thing I think we will all agree on is that BG needs to be playing their best basketball at the MAC tournament...and if they are, everything will work out fine.

[BGFalconfromCincy]

but Buffalo a tough game? Please. Toledo was simply caught looking ahead to BG that night, Buffalo's horrible.

How quickly you forget our last trip to Buffalo, where needed a record setting performance from Tracy in OT to escape Buffalo with a victory, and its not like they were all that great last season with their 8-24 record. Much like that Toledo game Buffalo will be fired up for their shot at us on their home floor. Should we beat them easily, yes, but we should have beaten them easily last year at their place and we didn't. Thats why they place the games on the court and not on paper, as long as Buffalo has Kourtney Brown they are going to have a shot

[Redwingtom]

I was at the game.

Shafir was not traveling on any of her layups.

The 3rd and 4th fouls called on Shafir were very very weak and the third one could have actually gone on the BG player. If she was not in foul trouble, Toledo would have won by about 10.

Our defense on Shafir was horrible. She burned Pontius time and time again and this needs to be addressed.

Our post players put the ball on the floor EVERY STINKING TIME they got the ball in the post. This is not acceptable and needs to be addressed.

Bottom line, the officials were fine...other than the ridiculous potential foul at the end of the first half. There's a reason why you NEVER see a foul called in this situation....especially one on the offensive team which I have NEVER seen in all my years of watching every level of basketball.

The crowd was great and the arena is nicely done. Only major fault I had was the stupid arena music blaring on two occasions when the ball had already been handed to the player to throw the inbounds pass. It happened once to each team.

Oh, and the scoreboard operator made a huge blunder late in the game which my daughter noticed. They had given a basket to the wrong team I think as they had us up 63-52 and the next time we looked after Toledo made a basket it was 60-57 or 60-58. No idea who long it was wrong or whether any of our players noticed it and thought it was correct.

[Falconfreak90]

Don't look now but Akron is playing very well (they beat Eastern Michigan today) and they and Kent State are only one game behind us. We have to play at Akron and they played us very tough at AA as I recall. Don't count your chickens....

Our Falcons have already hatched - granted they're still growing throughout the season
Akron wasn't really that tough at AA. We beat them by 12 and we've grown a lot since then - turnovers are down (except for today), 2nd chance points are up, free-throw shooting is still great, points off TOs are up, bench points are still good. We're improving just about every game!

Go Falcons!

I applaud your confidence but I think we can all agree that when that game rolls around, Coach Miller will announce that we are the underdog.

BigGibber is exactly right about Akron. They are rolling right now. I think they had 2 MAC road wins in the last 4 years, and they've got at least 3 this year. They played us a lot tougher than you might think. We got that early lead on them, but they never went away. The game at their place is going to be a real battle. Those yahoos at the end of the court are always merciless toward Curt and the team, and now they've actually got a good team to cheer for.

Coach Kest has Akron playing very well these days...and those yahoos at the end of the court are that way no matter who Akron is playing. But I sincerely doubt they know Akron trails the all time series with BG 42-2. Can't wait til the team gets to Akron.

TOGETHER WE ATTACK

[h2oville rocket]

I was at the game.

Shafir was not traveling on any of her layups.

The 3rd and 4th fouls called on Shafir were very very weak and the third one could have actually gone on the BG player. If she was not in foul trouble, Toledo would have won by about 10.

Our defense on Shafir was horrible. She burned Pontius time and time again and this needs to be addressed.

Our post players put the ball on the floor EVERY STINKING TIME they got the ball in the post. This is not acceptable and needs to be addressed.

Bottom line, the officials were fine...other than the ridiculous potential foul at the end of the first half. There's a reason why you NEVER see a foul called in this situation....especially one on the offensive team which I have NEVER seen in all my years of watching every level of basketball.

The crowd was great and the arena is nicely done. Only major fault I had was the stupid arena music blaring on two occasions when the ball had already been handed to the player to throw the inbounds pass. It happened once to each team.

Oh, and the scoreboard operator made a huge blunder late in the game which my daughter noticed. They had given a basket to the wrong team I think as they had us up 63-52 and the next time we looked after Toledo made a basket it was 60-57 or 60-58. No idea who long it was wrong or whether any of our players noticed it and thought it was correct.

Unfortunately that music thing seems to happen all too frequently-I've noticed it at men's games as well- not aimed at the opposition because it happens no matter who has the ball. Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to turn it off on time.

Shafir is awfully quick but her TOs are still a problem-sometimes its the fault of the player who isn't ready for some of those crazy passes, sometimes its playing out of control. Traveling is not a big issue.

Oh, and Freak- I love the Akron Rowdies. A couple years back they were at UT and my daughter and their group really got into it but in a very cool way- they were loud, rambuctious and incredibly annoying but never profane and very respectful to those around them, with the exception of one fiftiesh guy who dropped "F" bombs the whole time. Even the others in the group were shunning him at the end. They brought a huge contingent, must have been fifty or so. We had a lot of fun with them. Oh, yeah- we beat them which made it nice, too.

[h2oville rocket]

Not to detract from the rest of the conversation, but I'd thought you'd all appreciate this. This is from the game notes on bgsufalcons.com:

* The win was Toledo's first over BGSU in more than seven years, since a 70-62 decision at then-Savage Hall on Jan. 15, 2003 ... since that time, the Falcons had won five home games, four road games and three neutral-site affairs (all in Cleveland in the MAC Tournament) over the Midnight Blue and Gold.

* To put that date (Jan. 15, 2003) in context, BGSU's current freshman class was in sixth grade the last time the Falcons lost to the Rockets.

Truly an amazing streak, MM. Hard to imagine that one team has the others's number for that long. And those BG freshmen were just entering elementary school the last time the Falcons beat the Rockets in a swim meet (1998). Those things are just hard to figure. A more balanced rivalry would be good for the MAC-but of course I'm hoping it unbalances the other way!

[Dukefann9er]

I am going to agree... Buffalo is going to be a battle.... They were all over us at home for the first 12mins or so. That Courtney girl is a good one and no1 could man her up. Akron is on the rise. Ohio has the shooters to beat us. Folks this will not be easy! There is A LOT of talent on this team. BG needs Lo, Tracy and Nurse to play well all on the same night. It seems if Lo plays well Tracy does not and it we have seen the other way.