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I saw this in a previous thread and felt compelled to comment. you guys are all forgetting about the best post presence on this team....kelly kapferer. I have played against her in the post many many times and she has just as good of a back to the basket game as mann but with more height and size. However, even when miller decides to play her, we almost NEVER go to her in the post. He only uses her for high screens and a defensive presence. If she played 25-30 minutes a game and was given about 5 post plays she would be an automatic double double. But miller decides not to play her The only lady ever to be voted a unanimous team captain (that's right I said EVER) played 2 minutes in mop up duty against a quality team that was weak on the inside. If you can explain to me how that makes him a good coach, I'm all ears.

I think it's hard to find fault with the sub patterns coming off such a convincing win. Re the other stuff about Miller's conduct with the team, I can only judge him by his sideline demeanor. He looks a bit hyper, but not out of control.

I really liked the way he handled the team in the final five seconds or so of last year's tournament game with Miami. He kept them calm and focused when they easily could have quit.

If you have something specific to say about coach Miller's activities, don't hide behind a pseudonym and make vaugue accusations. Why not tell us who you are, the specifics of your allegations and your source for that information. You might stand a chance of being given some credibility that way...

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:The only lady ever to be voted a unanimous team captain (that's right I said EVER) played 2 minutes in mop up duty against a quality team that was weak on the inside. If you can explain to me how that makes him a good coach, I'm all ears.

A team captain is a team leader. Not necessarily the best player, or even the best leader on the floor. The captain is the heart-and-soul of a team...

Oh, and I had a coach that yelled and said things to me in practice that would make you "pee your pants." I didn't want him fired...he taught me a lot.

Curt Miller is taking the BGSU Falcons back to prominence where they belong! What's your beef with him? Vague accusations and veiled threats of an upcoming "eyebrow raising" editorial are all great... but why wait? Tell us now. My eyebrows are really low lately and could use a little raising. Sounds like it's something personal to me.

Don't personally attack people here please. If you call someone a "petty little man" you had better well have facts to back it up and you had better be ready to answer to a legion of supporters and ultimately to Coach Miller himself.

Like Flipper said, be specific and put your name behind it, or shut up!

The guy's record and accomplishments so far in his short tenure here at BGSU speak for themselves. All this bashing of our Coach, and in some cases on other threads, the players, is really getting old. I don't have a problem with differing opinions on this board, but all the bashing of our own team is ridiculous. Coach Miller is doing a great job and I'm doggone glad he is our coach!

an online forum is not the place to disclose facts or names because they lose credibility. I love this site but anybody can post on it whatever they want and that makes it unreliable. Especially from new posters such as myself. I also do not want to name any players involved at this time for fear of hurting their career. I also do not have permission yet from my sources to be specific and will not do so unless that permission is given. First and foremost I do not want to hurt the women's program by doing anything in midseadon when the focus should be on basketball. My intent was to do that in my post and in re-reading it I realize i digressed into a personal matter and i apologize. I was angry, having just been told certain things and should not have personally attacked anyone before i was ready to reveal facts. Like I said that will all come in time. Not till after this fine group of ladies has won the mac regular season and tourney titles. So again, the focus of my post was meant to be on miller's poor coaching that i have witnessed over the past couple years. The man can recruit like a banchee but his game coaching and player management leaves a lot to be desired. that is my opinion anyway. Sorry again for the confusion.

Curt Miller is truly a genuinely great coach. He's perfect for our program and the players really respond to him. I read all of this stuff about the team captain and not getitng to play much...but seriously, if the person really is a unanimously elected captain, she should understand the TEAM aspect and understand her role on the team.

Coach Miller really has his sh*t together and has this team primed to do some great things. As for attacking him, I'll defend him to the very end just as I've defended Dakich. Sure, Curt is "short" but he's not a small man! I know both of them personally and they are the ideal coaches for the BG basketball program.

We don't have room for whiners and "anonymous" comments on here, so as I said before about Dakich, respect the man or shut your mouth.

PS: When we start losing most of our games...then you can question our Coach!

that's a fantastic attitude, only worry about dignity, fairness, and respect when the team is losing. If it's a winning program, just shut up and enjoy. I think there's room on an tOSU or Florida State board for ya

I can't figure out why someone would question a coach that has done nothing but bring our program back from a deep decline. If you have sources that say that they are unhappy, it is more than likely because they aren't playing as much as THEY like. They must not be happy that they are winning games. Each player on any team has a role, and they have to learn to live with that, especially when they are winning. I could see if the girls were losing and not playing well, and complaining about how players are being used, but not when they are winning games, and doing a good job. During a game it is hard to get all the players in that you want to, and get them fair playing time. Coach Miller was brought in to win games, and that is what he is doing. As a coach myself, I really hate when people criticize the coach for his coaching style, especially when they are winning and doing their job.

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:that's a fantastic attitude, only worry about dignity, fairness, and respect when the team is losing. If it's a winning program, just shut up and enjoy. I think there's room on an tOSU or Florida State board for ya

...for you...there's room on another board. NOT ONE PERSON has agreed with you on this thread. Seriously, don't come on here and attack people calling them disrespectful, unfair, and undignified just because we support a coach who's experiencing success. There's a reason Rudy didn't play every game for Notre Dame...but everyone still loved him. It's not about playing the person with all the heart. His job description is not to keep everyone happy. Sorry that you live in the Y-ball world of keeping people happy and playing everyone, but this is college basketball where he recruits his ass off to get these good players.

Take your worthless bantor elsewhere and find some support for it.

I do not require other people to agree with me to validate my own opinions. I believe I am correct and that is enough for me. I must admit that if I were in your position, and saw the team's record and results the last year plus, i would think the team well coached. However, Spend 15 years playing basketball and watch these girls play about 30 games (if you haven't already) and perhaps your perspective will change. And perhaps it will not -- everybody sees this game differently. the way I see, the talent that we have could be used more efficiently and that includes each and every player on the team. Like I said before, the man is an awesome recruiter and has done as well as anyone at this school ever has initially in that regard. But recruiting is only half the test of a good college coach. Ron Zook was a great recruiter too and we see how well that worked out for him.

The root of this goes back to the perceived need of a post game for a team to run a great offense. We have had almost no post game since miller became head coach. Almost all of our points in the paint come off of drives and/or offensive boards off of those drives. You can say that we shoot the three well and that is why there is no post offense. But what do you think the best way to shoot a three is, walking into it or getting a crisp pass from the post for a wide open look? You could also say that a post presence is not needed to consistently produce good offense. And that's fine, many great basketball minds would agree with you there. I simply would not. The development of a true slasher like Kate and a great pure shooter like whit may sway my opinion based on the makeup of next year's team. But I'll always believe that a post based offense, all other things being equal, is the best offense (Ironic coming from a 2 guard huh?).

Many of the womens programs around the country are going to more of a spread out offense that bases itself with one "post" player inside. As I have said in another thread, I believe what Coach Miller is trying to do is run the UCLA fastbreak with 4 out and 1 in. Many coaches run different types of motion offense if they don't get the layup or quick open shot on the break, but there is no need for a "true" post player. Those crisp passes that you are talking about come from either a drive and kick, or an entry pass into the post and kick out. The only time that I can think of that you would "walk" into your shot is if your the 1 coming down and deciding to shoot without passing. So I really am not buying that notion. Now, I have not been able to watch the team play since he has been at BG, but I did mention in another thread, and someone said that it made sense to them also after thinking about it. That person was also under the impression that you needed another post player. Having two true post players is for coaches that want a slow pace without much up and down movement, which is really becoming out dated. Even the mens teams such as Duke are running this type of offense. It's a heck of a lot easier to guard a post based offense. But hey, don't believe me, jus look at the champions in womens basketball the last few years. Did UConn have a post based offense with that liked to slow the ball down and let their post players get into the play all the time. I'm pretty sure they didn't. We don't have a Diana T., but you don't need one. I think that if you could do better, you should offer to be the coach. Not trying to be mean, but let's not mess with something that is working. Did we make the MAC championship game last year?

that's a fine argument, like I said the basketball community is split on this notion, and we obviously lay on different sides of the argument. Let me clarify. I don't believe that we should throw it in the post every time down the floor, or walk it up and look for games in the 50's a la Miami of Ohio last year. We don't have enough bodies on the inside to do that. I'm saying we should at least keep the opposing defense honest and run some offense through a post touch. I've seen Ali, liz, and Kelly hit the open player spotting up many times which tells me that they are viable options to run a post touch through. Also, with the growing popularity of zone defenses in the Women's game, we need to have a hi-lo option to attack that with in the case of our shooters being cold. Hopefully that won't be a problem since I've seen opposing coaches shy away from zoning us the last year or two because of our shooters killing them when they do. I'm just saying that we attack the post about 2 or 3 times a game on average, and I went to 5 games last year when we did not once give a player a post entry below the foul line. We lost 4 of those 5. could be coincidence. I'm saying I don't want to see it happen again.

P.S. We went to the championship last year because we hada terrific senior put us on her back and take us there. We were outcoached in all 3 games at the Gund last year. I was there. That is why lindsay austin is my hero =) that's still the greatest thing I've ever seen.

Coach Miller's accomplishments speak for themselves. I love this guy's style of coaching. He is firm but fair.

And he's getting results in case you haven't noticed. With the loss of Lindsay Austin and Stef Wenzle from last yr, it will take some time for the new players to jell. But man are they talented. I was at the Gund for the WMU and EMU games last year. Yes, the SR leadership was there. But there is so much raw talent on this roster. When the leadership skills become better, watch out.

Together we attack.

GO Hoops!

Totally! That Depola girl absolutly killed us inside that entire game. Obviously Mann had a very tough time guarding from what I heard. We shot alot of 3 attempts in that Lehigh game and made nowhere near enough of them to keep us in that game until we scratched back in it with 2:00 left. Lehigh beat us with strong inside play with Depola who I belieave was several inches taller than Mann. We will continue to struggle against teasms like this who have good centers who can dominate the paint. Why Kapfur doensn't play more , I have know idea? Ask Coach Miller on that one. :shrug: I played and watched a ton of basket-ball in my lifetime since I was five years old to know what I'm talking about here. Nice win against Winthrop, but there only 0-7 , so again not a good barometer. Lets hope we play better in New Mexico this weekend.

GO BG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BEAT NEW MEXICO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!