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Flipper wrote:It's worth noting that football recruit Shannon Smith is also from Marist in Chicago....he's having problems getting academic clearance from the NCAA. Is there an issue with the Marist guidance staff?
5'11" is a bit short for a D1 post, but it seems like she can really ball. She'll be in the lineup immediately, as we'll only have 4 posts total - but I'll stop complaining about our post depth now!falconfan1 wrote:Marist is a fine college prep environment in the Mount Greenwood neighborhood of Chicago. Well regarded school in East Suburban Catholic League and a close by rival of Brother Rice, Mother McCauley and others.
This school is actually better known for academics than athletics though it certainly has had success in sports. There is no issue with college prep course work at Marist.
Each individual student must take and meet all the requirements for college entrance and, in the case of athletes, they must be certified by the NCAA Clearinghouse. So if a student falls short in a certain area, he may arrive at a college as an admit and, by diligence and commitment, later become eligible for athletics.
Leah Bolton, as you can see on the release, is a full NCAA Div 1 academic qualifier in every way. Immediately. If you examine the news articles concerning Leah and Illinois, you will see very little transparency in their remarks regarding her situation w several factors in play. Given the variety of student-athletes Illinois recruits in a variety of other sports, it is somewhat surprising that Leah would be in that situation.
FF1,
My point...or question if you will, relates to BG's admissions standards vs. U.Ill. If her alleged "weighted" GPA caused her NOT to get into Ill., how does she qualify for us? Weighted GPA's usually are when an A = 4.5, not the usual 4.0 etc. (using this as an example)... so what was wrong with her GPA to cause her the grief at Ill.?
She is a very good player and also a very nice young lady from a very good family as the press release reviews after their visit and her commitment to BG.
Go Falcons!
Some institutions go back and will drop the grades from all non-academic courses (or "core" courses). Not sure if Illinois does this or not. So the student that has A's in Band, Art, Theatre, and Weightlifting - those grades do not count and they look at English 1 -4, Math, Science, and all the "true academic" courses.Class of 61 wrote: FF1,
My point...or question if you will, relates to BG's admissions standards vs. U.Ill. If her alleged "weighted" GPA caused her NOT to get into Ill., how does she qualify for us? Weighted GPA's usually are when an A = 4.5, not the usual 4.0 etc. (using this as an example)... so what was wrong with her GPA to cause her the grief at Ill.?
She is a very good player and also a very nice young lady from a very good family as the press release reviews after their visit and her commitment to BG.
Go Falcons!
transfer2BGSU wrote:Some institutions go back and will drop the grades from all non-academic courses (or "core" courses). Not sure if Illinois does this or not. So the student that has A's in Band, Art, Theatre, and Weightlifting - those grades do not count and they look at English 1 -4, Math, Science, and all the "true academic" courses.Class of 61 wrote: FF1,
My point...or question if you will, relates to BG's admissions standards vs. U.Ill. If her alleged "weighted" GPA caused her NOT to get into Ill., how does she qualify for us? Weighted GPA's usually are when an A = 4.5, not the usual 4.0 etc. (using this as an example)... so what was wrong with her GPA to cause her the grief at Ill.?
She is a very good player and also a very nice young lady from a very good family as the press release reviews after their visit and her commitment to BG.
Go Falcons!
BGSU wants a 2.500 GPA and a 20 ACT Composite. The higher the GPA, the less importance put on the ACT/SAT scores (meaning a lower ACT can be admitted). The lower the GPA, the more importance placed on the test score (meaning a 20 will not get you in if you have a 2.0 GPA - you need around a 27 ACT at that point).
Before anyone says "Man, that's low." You should know the average incoming freshman at BGSU enrolling in Fall 2012 had a 3.27 GPA and a 22.26 ACT Composite. This has been pretty steady for the last 10-12 years as well.
[Stepping onto the soapbox]
I can't stand weighted GPA's. Parents clamor that their kid is disadvantaged by a weighted GPA's and they want their district to weight GPAs as well. But there is one problem - there is no common weighting. One district weighs courses an additional .10 while another does it .25, yet some districts give a whole point or two. Ridiculous.
Students won't take an Advanced Placement course because a grade of 'B' will hurt their GPA unless the course is weighted. Oh boo hoo. Tell the kid to take the class because it's the appropriate class for them to take. Don't be afraid to learn. If more students challenged themselves the senior year of high school, maybe a 4 year degree could be attained in 4 years.
[Stepping down]
The ACC has a rule that the student must meet the Admissions criteria of the institution to be able to be offered an athletic grant-in-aid (remember Chuck Amato's swipe at Akron a few years ago....hmmm where does he coach at now? Irony?). ACC institutions admissions standards are tougher than the NCAA eligibility requirements. I don't know if the Big Ten has such a conference rule or not.
A friend of mine is the Director of Admissions at a well known state-supported school in South Carolina and he was telling me that he has denied numerous out-of-state students with GPAs above a 3.500 and SAT scores above 1300 (Critical Reading and Math combined). He is denying these students and we would be giving them some nice scholarship money.
This player met the NCAA eligibility requirements so I have absolutely no concerns at all. She will be successful at BGSU if she utilizes the services available to her and her teammates, the same as any student-athlete.
If I were the Education Czar for the day, I would -Class of 61 wrote: Transfer,
Thanks for the updated info...just seemed a bit strange to me that Ill. rejected this kid while we took her... admittedly, we are still somewhat of an open admissions school (within reason of course), but I also agree that the weighted grades DO tend to mess up any school's standards. I recall (way back when) Garfield Hts. started granting weighted grades to kids taking Honors courses. Parents had put a lot of pressure on the schools to "recognize" their students' achievements in tougher than usual courses. But again, someone's 4.5 might be not as strong as someone else's 4.25, so confusion reigns as a result.
?falconfan1 wrote: and a close by rival of Brother Rice
