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BG loses to South Dakota State

May be another long year.

What's amazing that the BG bench scored 0 points in 45 minutes of play.

To be fair, SD state "only" lost to Notre Dame by like, 11. However, after the Falcons led something like 17-13 were outscored 19-2 at the end of the 1st half and most of the 3rd quarter. at one point it was 12-0 to start the 3rd quarter. No bench players did any scoring. Lambert kept BG in the game the 1st half with 12 of the 19. BG had so many turnovers where they would take the ball into the lane and travel. They were outhustled, out rebounded, and outplayed in all phases of the game.

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fredthefalcon wrote:What's amazing that the BG bench scored 0 points in 45 minutes of play.

I missed them playing 11 1/4 minute quarters LOL

0 points from the line in 1st half!

I agree that it may be another long season for the Falcons. I was at the game, and it was very frustrating to watch. I may get some bloggers who disagree with my perceptions, but that's okay. I also noticed the lack of production from the bench. I give credit to South Dakota State, as they clearly played the better game. I've always said that the Falcons are deficient in leadership, and tonight was no different. Lambert scored 12 in the first half, then struggled the rest of the game. Bottom line is that we are not aggressive on offense. Offensively, all we do is take what is given us. We need to be the aggressor and impose our will against our opponents . That has not happened. We struggle breaking the press, and continue to turn the ball over on numerous occasions. Shot clock violations and five second calls on inbounds plays still run rampant. Curt Miller commanded excellence, and did what was necessary to maximize a player's talents. Coach Roos, although she coached alongside Miller for over a decade, has not been able to turn her team into a powerhouse of any kind. We need scorers, not shooters. Miller's offense was really good, while Roos' offense still looms below the mark of mediocrity. Every aspect of the Falcons' offense lacks in intensity and drive, and those things start at the top. Yes, maybe we got too accustomed to winning all those years we had Miller and his recruits, but my fear now is that we will forget what it takes to win and get too accustomed to losing. To be successful at any college sport, you must have great coaching and great players. It appears that our women's basketball team may be lacking in both. The results and the box scores speak for themselves. I will continue to hope for the Falcons to improve as a team, but I fear that some of our players may have already reached their athletic potential under this program. I'm sure I'll catch some flack for my comments, but those are my honest opinions, right, wrong, or indifferent. Nevertheless, I will continue to support this team all the way. Go Falcons!

Maybe we're seeing the women's basketball equivalent of promoting Gregg Brandon after Urban Meyer left.

Guys, be a little patient with this team. I still think they have a lot of talent, but a lot of it is young talent. If they are playing this way later in January then I will be worried. The most important part of the season will begin in January, the MAC schedule. The results aren't what I would like to see at this time, but I am seeing improvement. The rest of the MAC has gotten better. I think everyone has to realize That BG will not be as dominant as we once were. Can we win the league championship again? Certainly we can but it won't be the cakewalk that we saw from 2005 - 2013. Let's see how the rest of the season plays out. Will tunes change if we start winning again? Sure they will that is the nature of the BG fan base.

footballguy51 wrote:Maybe we're seeing the women's basketball equivalent of promoting Gregg Brandon after Urban Meyer left.

No, we are not seeing the women's basketball equivalent of promoting from within. Coach Roos was the best person for the job then and still is. Have we hit a rough patch? Yes we have. But I have all the confidence in the world in this coaching staff and team. It will get turned around. There is no comparison to Brandon at all. Brandon lost control of his team, took way too many chances on recruits who didn't go to class and got in trouble with the law. The women's basketball team has one of the highest GPA's of any team in the country. They do a tremendous job out in the community. The wins and losses aren't great at the moment, but that could change in the blink of an eye. Let's keep the support strong and see what the rest of the season brings.

The hope was Donovan would be back as a primary scoring and you'd have secondary scoring from some of the returning players...like Justinger. Donovan didn't come back, so now you have to find a primary scoring threat while developing a bench. Getting zero from Puk and Baer hasn't helped. saw Baer a fair amount in HS and thought she be a decent 2nd or 3rd option in time.

There's talent of the roster..they're sorting out the roles and trying to find the right mix of players. You'd hope they'd be a little further along in that process this far into the OOC, but it is what it is.

Comparisons to the academic, discipline and on field dumpster fire GB left here are unfair.

Coach Roos is absolutely the right coach for the program. We are going through growing pains. Lots of young talent that needs to learn how to win consistently.

I suppose that comparison was a little unfair. I didn't mean to suggest that the team had academic and legal issues. I was only suggesting that Brandon took over for Meyer and coasted with the talent as far as he could until it became evident that he had no ability to recruit or coach effectively. Injuries to a couple key people on his teams showed the complete lack of depth in those teams. The lack of depth in the current basketball team as well as the slow decline over the past couple of years, to me, is an early indicator of bad things on the horizon. If things get turned around, I will gladly eat crow. I only fear that we might be seeing what type of teams Roos will put out there when it is only her players and not a bunch of Miller players like in her first two years.

footballguy51 wrote:I suppose that comparison was a little unfair. I didn't mean to suggest that the team had academic and legal issues. I was only suggesting that Brandon took over for Meyer and coasted with the talent as far as he could until it became evident that he had no ability to recruit or coach effectively. Injuries to a couple key people on his teams showed the complete lack of depth in those teams. The lack of depth in the current basketball team as well as the slow decline over the past couple of years, to me, is an early indicator of bad things on the horizon. If things get turned around, I will gladly eat crow. I only fear that we might be seeing what type of teams Roos will put out there when it is only her players and not a bunch of Miller players like in her first two years.

You have remember that Coach Roos had a lot to do with the recruiting during the Miller years. She was the recruiting coordinator. I heard from a lot of parents that she was the reason a lot of them came to BG. You have to remember that when she was hired she only had scholarship player coming in until Miriam Justinger committed too. The other recruit left after her freshman year (homesick from what I heard). Let's wait and see the development of the younger players before we make a judgment. Sometimes players develop later than we expect. I had hoped we would be further along this season. After watching the press conference from last night, I still believe that we will have a successful season.

Coach Roos has done a mediocre job at recruiting so far. Nobody that she has recruited is going to light it up night after night. Her coaching level is not even close to that of Miller. We appear to be a middle of the pack MAC team at best and that doesn't look like it will change under her leadership. Maybe Fran Voll can assist.

falcon83 wrote:Coach Roos has done a mediocre job at recruiting so far. Nobody that she has recruited is going to light it up night after night. Her coaching level is not even close to that of Miller. We appear to be a middle of the pack MAC team at best and that doesn't look like it will change under her leadership. Maybe Fran Voll can assist.

Quit making comparisons to the Miller era. Each team has their own personality. You don't always need the "light it up" player each night. Be a little more patient with this team. I think people will be happy with them by March. That is when you need to be playing your best. That is a fact of life in the MAC.