TRADITIONS ...?

[Godsgirlerific]

As for cymbal birthdays, that does make me kinda sad, although I understand the reasoning behind wanting to wait until AFTER practice is over. Every minute counts, etc etc.

Now, if we had more efficient rehearsals, then perhaps we could squeeze in the cymbal birthdays at 5:43 or so. Dr. Hayward is fairly obliging on the occasions when we have focused, efficient practices. Honestly, I can see why she won't allow us to do the fun stuff during rehearsal time if we can't even finish the tasks planned for each rehearsal. Now, I'm not pointing any fingers, and I know that there are several contributing factors that affect the rehearsal pace. But we band members do have control over some of those factors, especially those of us in leadership positions. If we could make efficiency more of a standard than an occasional pleasant surprise, then I think we could negotiate some of these traditions- Quigleys, cymbal birthdays, etc.- back into rehearsal time.

And remember that, though you may not be a fan of the faculty, leadership, and/or rehearsal methods, you should still treat all of those people and practices with respect. People are much more willing and open to listen to suggestions or requests when you behave in a respectful manner.

Speaking of during-rehearsal traditions, now that my big brother is no longer marching, who will be the perc who runs after "I'm A Little Teapot" on game days?

[Metz]

Now, if we had more efficient rehearsals, then perhaps we could squeeze in the cymbal birthdays at 5:43 or so. Dr. Hayward is fairly obliging on the occasions when we have focused, efficient practices. Honestly, I can see why she won't allow us to do the fun stuff during rehearsal time if we can't even finish the tasks planned for each rehearsal.

Efficient rehersals will never happen until there are alternates and cuts. When there are people on the field who can't march or have no idea what they are doing, obviously they didn't learn a thing in fundamentals week and are slowing the rest of the band down by not knowing where to go or making the forms look like crap when they get there.

Sure people talk during rehersal and some make an argument that it slows down rehersal, but a majority of the people talking are in their right spot. When people stop rehersal to tell the people to stop talking, that slows rehersals down.

we band members do have control over some of those factors, especially those of us in leadership positions.

You might want to wipe that brown off your nose.

[Rightupinthere]

This timing issue is B.S.

The first 5-7 minutes of rehearsal should belong to the DMs to run stretches and whatever else.

Delaine and I did the birthday right after blowing the block band. It take a whopping 30 seconds to sing the song and while the cymbols are having their fun, the DMs can start the stretches.

Elementary.

[Godsgirlerific]

Efficient rehersals will never happen until there are alternates and cuts.

I wholeheartedly agree with you on that point. We are a college band, and we should be selective. We have had to remind ourselves of that a few times in TBS during discussions regarding potential members; we are an honorary group with standards that we not only can, but should uphold. The FMB should abide by that same principle.

I think that cuts should be made based mainly on attitude; bad attitude is toxic to a group like this where everyone has to cooperate with one another and care about what we do, and attitude is nearly impossible to change. Bad technique is generally not contagious, and there is ample opportunity and possibility for improvement.

I also agree that we should go back to using alternates for the reason that Mikey stated. A little bit of competition never hurt anybody. That method also allows members who start out as not-so-great marchers the opportunity and motivation to work hard and earn spots in shows later on in the season.

But if we want Dr. Hayward to even listen to and consider these changes, then we have to treat her and the organization with respect. Who wants to listen to requests and suggestions from someone who shows no respect?

[Metz]

But if we want Dr. Hayward to even listen to and consider these changes, then we have to treat her and the organization with respect. Who wants to listen to requests and suggestions from someone who shows no respect?

I respect her and the program, but it seems a lot of people don't. There are things I'd like changed, and I state what they are. Will they change? Probably not, but this board is here for us to state our opinions.

Dr. Hayward is the director and can do what she wants. No one is ever going to like everything someone does. However, you have to earn respect to get it. For the people who don't respect her, I think that is the problem...

[FliccGirl]

However, you have to earn respect to get it.

I would say rather, you have to earn respect to keep it. Everyone should receive respect to start off with. Respect is a gift that we give people when we meet them for the first time. If they do something to screw that up, so be it.

I think people tend to confuse "being worthy of respect" with "giving me what I want."

[Metz]

Everyone should receive respect to start off with. Respect is a gift that we give people when we meet them for the first time. If they do something to screw that up, so be it.

Say you meet someone who's in jail for killing people, you already respect them because you just met them for the first time? And then from there if they screw up, you disrespect them?

People need to earn respect. You don't "know" someone the minute you meet them and therefore shouldn't automatically trust and respect them. That is something that is earned and built up overtime. If they screw up on the way there, that is where the set-back comes.

[FliccGirl]

Well, you know something about the person in jail for murder, thus you have some basis on which to withdraw your respect.

Not trying to be disagreeable.

But what I mean is, respecting others is what having any kind of civilization is all about, isn't it? If people have to earn your respect from the getgo, why do we hold doors for people we don't even know-- after all, they might be convicted murderers. It's because, not knowing anything about them, we automatically treat them with respect until they show us they deserve otherwise.

Maybe we're thinking of "respect" in different terms. Maybe what you're thinking of leans more toward admiration than what I'm thinking of. I agree, we shouldn't admire, fully trust, or try to emulate people until we know they've earned it. But respect.... well, simple respect, especially for someone in a position of authority, is little more than common courtesy, until they prove they are unworthy of it.

[PresBG]

Speaking of during-rehearsal traditions, now that my big brother is no longer marching, who will be the perc who runs after "I'm A Little Teapot" on game days?

good question....what the heck, i'd step up. ya know...since apparently cymbals dont move and all.

[Rightupinthere]

Speaking of during-rehearsal traditions, now that my big brother is no longer marching, who will be the perc who runs after "I'm A Little Teapot" on game days?

good question....what the heck, i'd step up. ya know...since apparently cymbals dont move and all.

Flash lives?

[Godsgirlerific]

Flash lives?

Huh?

[It's the Journey...]

I believe I know what you are talking about. I guess Flash does live..

[goofyeuph]

I don't know/havn't heard the story behind "The Flash" but if I was a betting man, I would put money on that at least some form of "The Flash" lives. I (and others on this board I assume) would love to hear the story though.

[Ohiogal]

Just for the record, I never 'blew' the block band... maybe YOU did Mark, but not I

[FliccGirl]

Hey! Hey! Back on topic! (Like that ever happens.) Someone said a story was in order, and I'm not gonna be gypped out of a good band story.

*sits cross-legged on the floor and waits for the story*