ESPN's MAC Awards, BG named MAC's biggest disappointment

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 8:07 pm

TG1996 wrote:
hammb wrote:Yes, it's a very well known fact that ESPN has it in for the Browns & the Buckeyes.
Actually, after the last six years, and many parts of the last 31 years, I'm starting to become convinced that the Browns have it in for themselves.

This is true. And Buckeye fans are just paranoid - because they are crazy.

But back to BG sports...

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 9:28 pm

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Originally posted by hammb:
Did I stumble onto the OSU board???

Nope, this is still azz.com...
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Nah, I just said ESPN was a disappointment.

the OSU board says ESPN's a disappointment because they do anything and everything in their power to make OSU look bad. (You know, like filtering moles in as boosters and running Central Ohio car dealerships and such.... )
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Yes, it's a very well known fact that ESPN has it in for the Browns & the Buckeyes.

hammb - I don't disagree with you. What do you think caused ESPN to carry their grudge against the Browns?

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:55 pm

Nothing is wrong with ESPN! They are owned by DISNEY!

It's a world of laughter, a world of tears.
It's a world of hopes and a world of fears.
There's so much that we share, that is't time we're aware
It's a small world after all.....

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:59 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:Nothing is wrong with ESPN! They are owned by DISNEY!

It's a world of laughter, a world of tears.
It's a world of hopes and a world of fears.
There's so much that we share, that is't time we're aware
It's a small world after all.....

Talk about drinking the kool-aid!!!

Glad you're (apparently) alive, RUIT!!!

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 10:49 pm

Rightupinthere wrote:Nothing is wrong with ESPN! They are owned by DISNEY!

It's a world of laughter, a world of tears.
It's a world of hopes and a world of fears.
There's so much that we share, that is't time we're aware
It's a small world after all.....

HE'S ALIVE!!!! Well, sort of, apparently. I only pray to the superior diety that he has not been fuly inculcated into the clut of the mouse ears...

Falconfreak90 · Post by **Falconfreak90** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:24 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:How anyone could argue against BG being the biggest disappointment in the MAC is beyond me. We underperformed expectaions by 3-4 games, and I don't think the expectations were unreasonable.

I couldn't agree more. It was the most disappointing season for BG football in at least 10 years, IMO.

Time to forget it and look to 2006!

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:27 pm

Hopefully we will be the biggest surprise when these awards come out next year!

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:31 pm

1987alum wrote:Joe:

Have to disagree. If all he did was look over a few stat sheets, he was pretty accurate.

BG was the biggest disappointment in the league, maybe all off college football.

I see that the post has evolved since I last checked, but I will respond nonetheless.

The issue wasn't whether the season was disappointing. It definitely was. The issue, as I framed it, was this particular writer making sweeping judgements based on (likely) minimal information.

I have a copy of Street and Smith's magazine that picked Miami to win the East Division. They could be an equally legitimate contender. I recall other outlets picking them as well. BG was alive in the divisional standings until literally the last game and were only in that position after losing the all-everything OB to an injury for 3 games.

A person familiar with the conference could also have noted the lack of progress at Eastern Michigan, who was picked by most to finish 3rd in the West. The Frank Solich hype devolving into a 4 win season and an alcohol incident would have been a worthy candidate as well, and that's just in the MAC.

I suppose my point was that they could have dug a little deeper than the obvious BG story if they had made an effort to understand the dynamics of our season and the conference as a whole this past year.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 3:45 pm

Despite all that Joe, we lost three games at home in the MAC. Is that not disappointing enough to qualify BG as the biggest disappointmet?

Also, we were only in a position to playa game at the end of the season becuase the rest of the division was also disappointing. Who could have imagined that Akron could lose three MAC games and still win the division. We you put together the crappy performance of the entire division together with the fact that we still couldn't win the East makes our performance even more disappointing. You don't have to dig very deep to understand that.

CapitalFalcon · Post by **CapitalFalcon** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:07 pm

Bleeding Orange wrote: And Buckeye fans are just paranoid - because they are crazy.

Whoa...Back the truck up! I can not BELIEVE I just read this on this board...That someone is accusing another school of being PARANOID? If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black! I have read more conspiracy theories on this board about BG, the MAC, and Mid-Major Schools than Oliver Stone could ever develop!

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:21 pm

Warthog wrote:Despite all that Joe, we lost three games at home in the MAC. Is that not disappointing enough to qualify BG as the biggest disappointmet?

Also, we were only in a position to playa game at the end of the season becuase the rest of the division was also disappointing. Who could have imagined that Akron could lose three MAC games and still win the division. We you put together the crappy performance of the entire division together with the fact that we still couldn't win the East makes our performance even more disappointing. You don't have to dig very deep to understand that.

Define disappointment. If Peyton Manning got hurt and Indy faltered in the playoffs, their season would be "disappointing" but for different reasons than if he were healthy.

I'm not denying the right to feel disappointed, but I think such sentiments need to be placed in the proper context.

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:26 pm

FWIW, I'd say BG was the single biggest disappointment in the MAC this year ... no one else even came close.

That being said, I'm past it. The recent recruiting news that I'm seeing has me already getting fired up for next year.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:53 pm

JoeFalcon wrote:Define disappointment.

Per dictionary.com: n 1: a feeling of dissatisfaction that results when your expectations are not realized

Does that not define our season to a T?

JoeFalcon wrote:If Peyton Manning got hurt and Indy faltered in the playoffs, their season would be "disappointing" but for different reasons than if he were healthy.

Incorrect. Their PLAYOFFS would be disappointing. Indy has had a very succesful season, winning their division and home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

JoeFalcon wrote:I'm not denying the right to feel disappointed, but I think such sentiments need to be placed in the proper context.

Would you be more satisfied if we said we were disappointed that Omar got hurt instead of saying the season was a disappointment?

JoeFalcon · Post by **JoeFalcon** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 5:36 pm

Warthog wrote:
JoeFalcon wrote:Define disappointment.
Per dictionary.com: n 1: a feeling of dissatisfaction that results when your expectations are not realized

Does that not define our season to a T?

JoeFalcon wrote:If Peyton Manning got hurt and Indy faltered in the playoffs, their season would be "disappointing" but for different reasons than if he were healthy.
Incorrect. Their PLAYOFFS would be disappointing. Indy has had a very succesful season, winning their division and home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

JoeFalcon wrote:I'm not denying the right to feel disappointed, but I think such sentiments need to be placed in the proper context.
Would you be more satisfied if we said we were disappointed that Omar got hurt instead of saying the season was a disappointment?

This suffocatingly negative attitude you possess is hilarious.

I wasn't asking for the technical definition of disappointment, I was asking for your own. By dictionary.com standards, virtually every team in the NCAA aside from the national champion will have had "their expectations not realized." Exactly how often does a season go perfect for any team at any level?

Secondly, you can't seperate seasons as you attempt to do with the Indianapolis Colts. If they falter in the playoffs, the national media and their fans will judge their season as disappointing. I guess you can compartmentalize everything if you really want to...disappointing parts of seasons, disappointing games, disappointing halfs, disappointing quarters, disappointing plays...The bottom line is that people will associate the Colts with disappointment if they perform poorly in the playoffs.

As I said, if Peyton Manning got hurt and they lost (as I analogized the Omar situation with the Western and Akron games) it'd be a different type of disappointment than if they simply got outplayed because the dynamics would change.

The season didn't turn out the way I had hoped it would, but I'm not ready to stick my head in the oven or claim the sky is falling after tying for the East Division title and missing the MACC by a hair after our star QB was out for three decisive games. If Omar was healthy and the outcome was the same, then yes, it'd be a whole different level of disappointment.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:13 pm

Well Joe my definition for disappoinment happens to be the same as the dictionary's since I don't make up definitions for words.

And since when in the hell is calling our season a disappointment give me a 'suffocatingly negative attitude'? Disappointment means not meeting expectations. My expectations were to win the MAC East. My expectations were that it would take a record of at least 7-1 to do that. Did we meet my expectations? No. Were my expectations unresasonable? No. The fact that Akron won the East with 3 losses makes it even more disappointing.

As far as everyone but the national champs having a disappointing season, yuo couldn't be farther from the truth. Do you think Akron is disappointed? Western? Central? Notre Dame? Penn State? For every team that fails to meet expectations, there is another team that exceeds theirs. Western and Central were picked to finish near the bottom of the West. They were both in the hunt until the final week. Yes, it was disappointing for them to not win the West. But on the whole, I would venture to say that 99% of thier fans were satisfied with the season overall.

On your Colts example, you are off base again. NFL teams have two seasons, the regular seasons and the playoffs. Indy in no way, shape, or form has had a disappointing regular season no matter what happened yesterday or the next two games.

And I never said anything about sticking my head in an oven. Just because I am disappointed doesn't mean I am ready to go postal or postal. You are taking this 'disappointed thing' way too seriously.