Is there a breaking point?

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FalconAwesome wrote: Nonetheless, I think there are scant potential students whose choices are affected by the quality of ICA.
I appreciate you taking issue with that point, but applications are at an all time high and the influx came in paralell to the football team's performance and new found exposure. I don't believe kids actively see the athletics as a factor in their decision, but subconsciously, I believe there is weigth applied to sports.

Academics don't like athletic departments on average because they see them as taking potential donors attention away. Sebo donated 5 milion for a sports only building. There may be some who question whether that money should go to another part of the university.

Another question, let's take OU as an example. If they lose money, does the university come to the rescue and provide a lift in their budget? Are there any suplimentations going to and/or fro between athletic departments and the "educational branch" of schools?
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Rightupinthere wrote:
FalconAwesome wrote: Nonetheless, I think there are scant potential students whose choices are affected by the quality of ICA.
I appreciate you taking issue with that point, but applications are at an all time high and the influx came in paralell to the football team's performance and new found exposure. I don't believe kids actively see the athletics as a factor in their decision, but subconsciously, I believe there is weigth applied to sports.

Academics don't like athletic departments on average because they see them as taking potential donors attention away. Sebo donated 5 milion for a sports only building. There may be some who question whether that money should go to another part of the university.
Another question, let's take OU as an example. If they lose money, does the university come to the rescue and provide a lift in their budget? Are there any suplimentations going to and/or fro between athletic departments and the "educational branch" of schools?
He and his wife also donated a couple million for Jazz Studies and some other academic parts of the Capital Campaign.
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FalconAwesome wrote:MACMAN, I could see that scenario as well, but in reverse. The smaller schools could fall back and decide that athletic spending could be better used elsewhere. When does Ohio U decide that the 9 million dollars (estimated) it loses on athletics each year might be a little too much?
All good points here. But as for Ohio University, I don't know about justifying spending nine million dollars, but I think athletics are clearly important enough to the university after the "Solich Incident" a few weeks ago. This to me was a clear case of the school willing to eat its own words to save its face in athletics, particularly in football. Ohio has been trying to clean up its image of being a party school, and right in the middle of this so-called effort, a man the university pays hundred of thousands of dollars to that is the leader of the football program and the new face of the university's athletic programs gets a DUI. Instead of setting an example to send this so-called message and clean-up effort, they slap him on the wrist and more or less brush it aside. I'm not exactly saying Solich should have been fired because of this (though I wouldn't have been against it either), but the school basically looks so damn wishy-washy to me for preaching one thing, yet, doing another. This was the perfect case for them to drive a message home, and to me, they fell back and did the exact opposite and looked silly in doing it. It just seemed like a case of saying one thing (we need to clean up our image) and doing another (well, we'll let this slide, but don't do it again or else). I thought it was a weak decision and if I ever hear OU crying about trying to clean up this image ever again, I'll simply turn the other way. As a "university," I thought they handled it the wrong way. As an "athletic department issue," they handled it just as I expected them to.
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BGSU33 wrote:Ohio has been trying to clean up its image of being a party school, and right in the middle of this so-called effort, a man the university pays hundred of thousands of dollars to that is the leader of the football program and the new face of the university's athletic programs gets a DUI.
Don't forget that shortly after the party school rankings came out, PLAYBOY appeared on the OU campus and had over 200 gilrs trying to get in the magazine. The director of admissions is in his first year at OU - what a first six months he's had.
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transfer2BGSU wrote:Don't forget that shortly after the party school rankings came out, PLAYBOY appeared on the OU campus and had over 200 gilrs trying to get in the magazine. The director of admissions is in his first year at OU - what a first six months he's had.
do you know in which issue this pictorial will be printed?
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jacojdm wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:Don't forget that shortly after the party school rankings came out, PLAYBOY appeared on the OU campus and had over 200 gilrs trying to get in the magazine. The director of admissions is in his first year at OU - what a first six months he's had.
do you know in which issue this pictorial will be printed?
May 2006.

Or at least that's what Flipper told me. :wink:
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TG1996 wrote:
jacojdm wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:Don't forget that shortly after the party school rankings came out, PLAYBOY appeared on the OU campus and had over 200 gilrs trying to get in the magazine. The director of admissions is in his first year at OU - what a first six months he's had.
do you know in which issue this pictorial will be printed?
May 2006.

Or at least that's what Flipper told me. :wink:
that's the same as the fsu cowgirls.Image
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jacojdm wrote:
TG1996 wrote:
jacojdm wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:Don't forget that shortly after the party school rankings came out, PLAYBOY appeared on the OU campus and had over 200 gilrs trying to get in the magazine. The director of admissions is in his first year at OU - what a first six months he's had.
do you know in which issue this pictorial will be printed?
May 2006.

Or at least that's what Flipper told me. :wink:
that's the same as the fsu cowgirls.Image
It's the issue with Frank Solich on the front cover....or was that DUI Monthly? I forget...... :wink:
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