V. Young leaning towards staying - ESPN Article

Germainfitch1 · Post by **Germainfitch1** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:16 pm

I dont like this value education idea. An education is important to 99.9 % of Americans To Vince Young it should not matter if he comes back in fifteen years to finish a degree as a multimillionaire.

edit:I simplified that too much. I do think that for 99.9% of people they need to value education. For Vince Young he can afford to put it off.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:21 pm

Germainfitch1 wrote:I dont like this value education idea. An education is important to 99.9 % of Americans To Vince Young it should not matter if he comes back in fifteen years to finish a degree as a multimillionaire.

Agreed. The idea of college is to prepare yourself for your profession (even though most knowledge comes from experience). How much more can Young prepare himself for the NFL with another year of blazing through weak-ass Big 12 teams while risking an injury that could cost him tens of millions of dollars?

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:27 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
Germainfitch1 wrote:I dont like this value education idea. An education is important to 99.9 % of Americans To Vince Young it should not matter if he comes back in fifteen years to finish a degree as a multimillionaire.

Agreed. The idea of college is to prepare yourself for your profession (even though most knowledge comes from experience). How much more can Young prepare himself for the NFL with another year of blazing through weak-ass Big 12 teams while risking an injury that could cost him tens of millions of dollars?

Agreed that Vince's desire to complete his education, while noble, is not altogether necessary in his situation. But Omar Jacobs???

And J4H, "weak-ass Big 12 teams"? Yeah, I guess Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Colorado & Texas A&M just suck.

Now if you are talking Matt Leinart & the PAC-10, I would've agreed with you a year ago, but he apparently made it through okay.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:31 pm

Ineedbotox wrote:
Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
Germainfitch1 wrote:I dont like this value education idea. An education is important to 99.9 % of Americans To Vince Young it should not matter if he comes back in fifteen years to finish a degree as a multimillionaire.

Agreed. The idea of college is to prepare yourself for your profession (even though most knowledge comes from experience). How much more can Young prepare himself for the NFL with another year of blazing through weak-ass Big 12 teams while risking an injury that could cost him tens of millions of dollars?
Yeah, I guess Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Colorado & Texas A&M just suck.

Couldn't have said it any better myself. I'm glad you agree. Oh, but you forgot about that powerhouse Baylor.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:36 pm

Yeah, I guess Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Colorado & Texas A&M just suck.
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Couldn't have said it any better myself. I'm glad you agree. Oh, but you forgot about that powerhouse Baylor.

Plus they supplemented their schedule next year with tough challenges from North Texas, Rice, and Sam Houston State....

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:43 pm

The Big 12 is, and has been for awhile, the most overrated conference in college football. People dog on the Big East & The Pac10 because they're not up to par. That's fine, because neither of them are real strong conferences beyond one or two good teams at the top. However, people always want to point to the Big 12 as being oh so great, and give so much credit to whatever team does well from there. Fact is Texas was LIGHT YEARS ahead of every team in the Big 12 this year, and they were only a small step above USC & OSU. OSU didn't even win their conference, but gave Texas a far better game than anyone in the Big 12, where the only challenges UT had were when they didn't show up to play the game.

I applaud Texas for playing OSU this year and next, because the Big 12 is well known for scheduling the crappiest OOC schedule imaginable to artificially inflate their SOS numbers. KSU has this nasty habit of playing multiple D1AA schools in a season...

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:45 pm

Don't forget Texas Tech's quest to ring up 100 points on Sisters of the Poor University a few times this year.

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:48 pm

Conference envy!

Kidding! I am still a MAC girl at heart, but I love the Big 12. And just you wait & see... Baylor has a chance at a BCS bowl next year. All they have to do is win the weak old Big 12 & they are IN!

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:51 pm

Ineedbotox wrote: Conference envy!

Now you just sound like a rocket fan

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 3:57 pm

Just to back my opinions up (for once), I will point to the bowl records:

ACC (8 ) 5-3
Big 12 (8 ) 5-3
Pac-10 (5) 3-2
SEC (6) 3-3
C-USA (6) 3-3
Mountain West (4) 2-2
Independents (2) 1-1
MAC (2) 1-1
Big Ten (7) 3-4
WAC (3) 1-2
Big East (4) 1-3
Sun Belt (1) 0-1

I will have to say that the ACC & C-USA fared better than I expected this year, the Big 12 didn't disappoint, and the MAC did!

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:03 pm

the Big 12 didn't disappoint, and the MAC did!

So if the Big 12 had lost one more bowl game, it would have had the same bowl winning percentage as the MAC.

Did the MAC have to go undefeated in order to not disappoint? Toledo was expected to win - they did. Akron was expected to lose - they did.

Yes, the Big 12 is a better conference than the MAC. To argue otherwise is silly. But why are you bothering to talk up the Big 12 if you're an alum from a MAC school? Are you related to Jay Crawford?

1987alum · Post by **1987alum** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:03 pm

botox:

Thanks for the stats.

How, exactly, did the MAC disappoint? They won one game and lost a close one.

Big Tenleven disappointed, as did the Big Least.

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:12 pm

Well, if y'all are happy only getting 2 MAC teams into bowl games, then I guess they didn't disappoint.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:15 pm

Ineedbotox wrote:Well, if y'all are happy only getting 2 MAC teams into bowl games, then I guess they didn't disappoint.

That's all "we" ever get in bowls. the MAC has two bowl tie-ins, at least until the Toronto bowl comes around and/or Convict USA's contracts run out.

You say you're a MAC girl at heart, but the way you usually speak about the conference, it's hard to see that.

BGGrad01 · Post by **BGGrad01** » Thu Jan 05, 2006 4:18 pm

1987alum wrote:Big Tenleven disappointed, as did the Big Least.

I don't want to stick up for the Big Ten, but they did win two BCS games. The overall record wasn't great, but they went 3-0 in the 2006 games.

EDIT: sorry! I forgot about the Iowa loss to Florida on 1/2.