Seriously, how do you make the transition from us having two bowl games to us disappointing? Those are the tie-ins we have. Period. We play the games we're in. And, in this case, we didn't pretty well. Toledo dominated and Akron came awful darn close.Ineedbotox wrote:Well, if y'all are happy only getting 2 MAC teams into bowl games, then I guess they didn't disappoint.
I will admit I have been corrupted, but I truly wish I saw better from the MAC this year. I have openly admitted my disgust for Akron & Toledo, but I expected more from BGSU & even Miami. Oh well, "we" will try harder next year!Jacobs4Heisman wrote: You say you're a MAC girl at heart, but the way you usually speak about the conference, it's hard to see that.
Wife to husband: "I really do love you, honey. But instead of supporting you, I'm going to continue to compliment the guy that lives down the street who is richer, taller, and better-looking. But don't forget that I love you...seriously...."Well, if y'all are happy only getting 2 MAC teams into bowl games, then I guess they didn't disappoint.
I agree that the Big 12 is over rated but so is the big ten and conference USA. Conference USa based off the number of bowls and Big Ten based off the fact that people think its the best conference when It seems obvious that the ACC, and SEC are better right now.hammb wrote:The Big 12 is, and has been for awhile, the most overrated conference in college football. People dog on the Big East & The Pac10 because they're not up to par. That's fine, because neither of them are real strong conferences beyond one or two good teams at the top. However, people always want to point to the Big 12 as being oh so great, and give so much credit to whatever team does well from there. Fact is Texas was LIGHT YEARS ahead of every team in the Big 12 this year, and they were only a small step above USC & OSU. OSU didn't even win their conference, but gave Texas a far better game than anyone in the Big 12, where the only challenges UT had were when they didn't show up to play the game.
I applaud Texas for playing OSU this year and next, because the Big 12 is well known for scheduling the crappiest OOC schedule imaginable to artificially inflate their SOS numbers. KSU has this nasty habit of playing multiple D1AA schools in a season...
I agree that the Big 12 is over rated but so is the big ten and conference USA. Conference USa based off the number of bowls and Big Ten based off the fact that people think its the best conference when It seems obvious that the ACC, and SEC are better right now.hammb wrote:The Big 12 is, and has been for awhile, the most overrated conference in college football. People dog on the Big East & The Pac10 because they're not up to par. That's fine, because neither of them are real strong conferences beyond one or two good teams at the top. However, people always want to point to the Big 12 as being oh so great, and give so much credit to whatever team does well from there. Fact is Texas was LIGHT YEARS ahead of every team in the Big 12 this year, and they were only a small step above USC & OSU. OSU didn't even win their conference, but gave Texas a far better game than anyone in the Big 12, where the only challenges UT had were when they didn't show up to play the game.
I applaud Texas for playing OSU this year and next, because the Big 12 is well known for scheduling the crappiest OOC schedule imaginable to artificially inflate their SOS numbers. KSU has this nasty habit of playing multiple D1AA schools in a season...
Wisconsin dominated Auburn, while Florida beat Iowa in a close one. OSU and PSU won BCS games, while Georgia didn't. Overall, both conferences had mixed results in the bowls. So there is nothing obvious about the SEC being better than the Big Ten.Germainfitch1 wrote:I agree that the Big 12 is over rated but so is the big ten and conference USA. Conference USa based off the number of bowls and Big Ten based off the fact that people think its the best conference when It seems obvious that the ACC, and SEC are better right now.hammb wrote:The Big 12 is, and has been for awhile, the most overrated conference in college football. People dog on the Big East & The Pac10 because they're not up to par. That's fine, because neither of them are real strong conferences beyond one or two good teams at the top. However, people always want to point to the Big 12 as being oh so great, and give so much credit to whatever team does well from there. Fact is Texas was LIGHT YEARS ahead of every team in the Big 12 this year, and they were only a small step above USC & OSU. OSU didn't even win their conference, but gave Texas a far better game than anyone in the Big 12, where the only challenges UT had were when they didn't show up to play the game.
I applaud Texas for playing OSU this year and next, because the Big 12 is well known for scheduling the crappiest OOC schedule imaginable to artificially inflate their SOS numbers. KSU has this nasty habit of playing multiple D1AA schools in a season...
SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn StateBGSUfalcons wrote:Wisconsin dominated Auburn, while Florida beat Iowa in a close one. OSU and PSU won BCS games, while Georgia didn't. Overall, both conferences had mixed results in the bowls. So there is nothing obvious about the SEC being better than the Big Ten.Germainfitch1 wrote:I agree that the Big 12 is over rated but so is the big ten and conference USA. Conference USa based off the number of bowls and Big Ten based off the fact that people think its the best conference when It seems obvious that the ACC, and SEC are better right now.hammb wrote:The Big 12 is, and has been for awhile, the most overrated conference in college football. People dog on the Big East & The Pac10 because they're not up to par. That's fine, because neither of them are real strong conferences beyond one or two good teams at the top. However, people always want to point to the Big 12 as being oh so great, and give so much credit to whatever team does well from there. Fact is Texas was LIGHT YEARS ahead of every team in the Big 12 this year, and they were only a small step above USC & OSU. OSU didn't even win their conference, but gave Texas a far better game than anyone in the Big 12, where the only challenges UT had were when they didn't show up to play the game.
I applaud Texas for playing OSU this year and next, because the Big 12 is well known for scheduling the crappiest OOC schedule imaginable to artificially inflate their SOS numbers. KSU has this nasty habit of playing multiple D1AA schools in a season...
The Big Ten champ beat the ACC champ. The second best Big Ten team (OSU, although I think they might beat PSU in a rematch) is better than the second best ACC team (VT or Miami). The third best Big Ten team (take your pick - Iowa, Wisc) is probably slightly worse than the third best ACC team (VT or Miami). After that, the teams seem relatively even. So, there is nothing obvious about the ACC being better than the Big Ten.
So despite the fact that PSU played their worst game of the year and STILL beat FSU you have FSU ranked ahead of PSU? C'mon. OSU & PSU were better than any of those teams from the SEC or ACC.Germainfitch1 wrote: SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn State
ACC: Florida State, Va Tech, Miami.......OSU, Penn State
hammb wrote:So despite the fact that PSU played their worst game of the year and STILL beat FSU you have FSU ranked ahead of PSU? C'mon. OSU & PSU were better than any of those teams from the SEC or ACC.Germainfitch1 wrote: SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn State
ACC: Florida State, Va Tech, Miami.......OSU, Penn State
That was not what i meant to depict. I wa trying to say that there are 5 good teams in the SEC compared to two in the Big Ten. 3 in the ACC compared to 2 in the big ten.hammb wrote:So despite the fact that PSU played their worst game of the year and STILL beat FSU you have FSU ranked ahead of PSU? C'mon. OSU & PSU were better than any of those teams from the SEC or ACC.Germainfitch1 wrote: SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn State
ACC: Florida State, Va Tech, Miami.......OSU, Penn State
Okay...I got ya. I wouldn't argue. The Big 10 had a LOT of teams that were disappointing this year. I do think that Wisconsin might belong on your list of quality teams this past year, but beyond that the Big 10 wasn't that great this year.Germainfitch1 wrote:That was not what i meant to depict. I wa trying to say that there are 5 good teams in the SEC compared to two in the Big Ten. 3 in the ACC compared to 2 in the big ten.hammb wrote:So despite the fact that PSU played their worst game of the year and STILL beat FSU you have FSU ranked ahead of PSU? C'mon. OSU & PSU were better than any of those teams from the SEC or ACC.Germainfitch1 wrote: SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn State
ACC: Florida State, Va Tech, Miami.......OSU, Penn State
I think rankings wise OSU and Penn State are where they should be.
But The SEC has 5 teams in the top 14. 5!
The ACC is arguable
I think its harder for a conference to have 5 in the top 14 than two in the top 4 because those 5 good teams will beat up on eachother.hammb wrote:Okay...I got ya. I wouldn't argue. The Big 10 had a LOT of teams that were disappointing this year. I do think that Wisconsin might belong on your list of quality teams this past year, but beyond that the Big 10 wasn't that great this year.Germainfitch1 wrote:That was not what i meant to depict. I wa trying to say that there are 5 good teams in the SEC compared to two in the Big Ten. 3 in the ACC compared to 2 in the big ten.hammb wrote:So despite the fact that PSU played their worst game of the year and STILL beat FSU you have FSU ranked ahead of PSU? C'mon. OSU & PSU were better than any of those teams from the SEC or ACC.Germainfitch1 wrote: SEC: Georgia, Florida, Auburn, LSU, Alabama........OSU, Penn State
ACC: Florida State, Va Tech, Miami.......OSU, Penn State
I think rankings wise OSU and Penn State are where they should be.
But The SEC has 5 teams in the top 14. 5!
The ACC is arguable
However, while I don't think the Big 10 had great depth I do think that PSU & OSU were in the top 5 in the country. So what's better for a conference having 2 of the top 5 teams in the country and not much else, or 5 of the top 15, but none in the top 5? Obviously there's more depth in the ACC & SEC, but at the top the Big 10 was better. Conversely both the Pac 10 & Big 12 had one really good team followed by a whole lotta crap.
Crap, crap, and more crap.Ineedbotox wrote:Hammb, you need to get out more. Pac 10 & Big 12 both had FOUR teams in the top 25. If that is crap, what is your take on our conference, or the Sun Belt conference, or C-USA?hammb wrote: Conversely both the Pac 10 & Big 12 had one really good team followed by a whole lotta crap.
