BG and Ohio State head to head

[hammb]

I hear ya Dayons. My biggest problem with football national titles is how many of them there are. If you go back to say the year 1900, that's 105 years of football. I would bet that if you counted all the schools that claim to win a national title in that span you'd have a total of well over 200. There are some years with 2 or 3 teams claiming national titles. It's ridiculous for that reason, and it hasn't changed any. We still have USC claiming 2 titles even in the BCS era.

Things would be a lot more clear on that front if the NCAA would sanction a championship tournament as they do in every other NCAA sport. Unless they do, discussing football national titles is a very grey area.

[Falconfreak90]

Good post, DD> I didn't think of it that way.

BTW, which school leads in NCAA infractions? Sure ain't BGSU!

[FALCON FLIER]

I was the one who started this topic and time wise I was thinking in the past 45 years. This is within my time frame and what I would consider to be recent history. Prior to the 1960's, I believe BG was considered college division in at least football. Someone emailed that he thought the baseball record was OSU 28, BG 17. That seems a little closer than I would have thought. I don't recall BG winning for quite a few years. As far as gold medal winners, I recall Dave Wottle, Ken Morrow, Mark Wells, and Rob Blake. Blake is on the 2006 Canadian Hockey team that is favored to win the gold so he may add to the total. I know Scott Hamilton was never a BG student but I was thinking there were 5 gold medalists. Am I missing somone?

My point was that with a present athletic budget of $12-15 million per year we have done very well against a program that spends from $85-90 million a year and has state of the art facitlities in every sport. It speaks very well for the athletes that come to Bowling Green and the success many of them have had. I still would love to get the tennis and a confirmed baseball record between BG and OSU.

[Bleeding Orange]

Did Scott Hamilton actually attend Bowling Green State University? I know his gold medal and world championship banners hang in his 'home' ice arena and he donated a big chunk of change to the entreprenuership program, but did he actually go to BGSU? I know he "graduated" from Bowling Green High School by taking correspondence courses from Colorado Springs while trainning. . .

You know I really have no idea...good call. I always assumed he did, since his banners hang in our ice arena, but you're right it's also the home ice for all of BG, not just the university.

This is an interesting topic, but it's asking a lot to try and stack BG up against one of the largest athletic departments (if not THE largest) in the country. Their budget is so much larger than ours it's not even funny. Head to head though, we have held our own, mostly by virtue of a large % of the matchups being in the one sport in which we have a greater tradition than does OSU.

Scott grew up in BG but never attended the university. When he advanced beyond the abilities of the local instructors I believe that he started training in Denver (who also like to call him their own). As far as I know, he never went to college (not that he needed to) but still calls BG and the university home, thus the generous donation he recently made to BGSU.

Actually, he did attend BGSU - for a single semester before moving off to Denver for training. He was actually adopted by two BGSU professors, and his parents continued to teach here after he moved out west. I got a chance to talk with him after the announcement of the gift he made last year. He's a really great guy.

[bgbrandon]

All in all, considering the budget gap, recruiting and facilities advantage OSU has, I think BGSU has done quite well head to head in just about everything. Of course if OSU would play at BG just ONCE in anything....

Why in gods name would tOSU come to play football or basketball at BG. There would be O-H-I-O chants going around and that would be pretty embarrasing for a home game. Not to mention our stadium holds 3 dozen people.

[tekekini]

exactly. BGSU would be embarrassed to host OSU. The crowd would be 9/10ths OSU fans.


Also OSU has the most division 1 sports in the nation. Many many more sports than BG even competes in. Also nobody ever said OSU was the best at all of them. But they are damn good at a lot of them. Do you think they really care if they win titles at mostof them? I am sure OSU wouldnt mind winning national titles in tennis or badminton or some other low to zero revenue sports but I doubt that it breaks anyones hearts except for the players and the families of the players and coaches of those teams.

OSU is a football school first and foremost. They are great at football and after this year, face it, they will be 4-0 v. BG.

Mens b-ball is on the rise, for a long time. They are now 12-1? maybe 11-1. They dont even have the all star, #1 recruiting class in school yet. Thad MAtta has the boys going in the right direction in a hurry. Would have been in the tourney last year if O'Brien wouldnt have F'd the university over.

If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true.

whoever said OSU technically has zero NCAA championship titles. Then nobody has any NCAA titles. But the statement is a joke. Deal with the way it works until they develop a playoffs. I dont like the BCS but to say that USC, or OSU has technically won zero national titles is lame. OSU in 2002 won a title as they were the ONLY undefeated team in the contry and they beat everyones glory child hurricanes at the time.

How can you deny that USC won titles (except when they shared with LSU).

How can you deny UT won a title this year? They beat USC (ESPN's wet dream). Only undefeated team in country.

Trust me I dont like the BCS and I think with a tourney OSU would have won a national title this year. They gelled more than anyone to finish the season and I think they could have handled UT USC or PSU now that Troy Smith has started full time and was given a chance to find a rythm.

Bottom line is that if BG won a title you would not be saying that techincally they didnt win one because the NCAA doesnt sanction a title. Thats a oad of crap. If they didnt want it they would not allow the schools to participate in the BCS.

get over it, BG is a small but competitve school and thats the farthest they are going to go in the MAC. They need to get into the Big East (assuming the BCS is ging to keep them asa BCS conference).

The big east could be revived with WVA, Toledo, BG, SU, Miami OH, UCONN, PITT. It would be much better than it is now. Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools. Give them a chance at the BCS.

I know you dont like it but it is the facts. except it or look like clowns who cry all the time. Either way all of your crying just gives OSU fans more reason to pick on you

[BGDrew]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

[Tricky_Falcon]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Better question, does his opinion matter?

[Falconfreak90]

All in all, considering the budget gap, recruiting and facilities advantage OSU has, I think BGSU has done quite well head to head in just about everything. Of course if OSU would play at BG just ONCE in anything....

Why in gods name would tOSU come to play football or basketball at BG. There would be O-H-I-O chants going around and that would be pretty embarrasing for a home game. Not to mention our stadium holds 3 dozen people.

I didn't know all these Blackeye fans were Ohio Bobcat fans!
To me, O H I O is Ohio University. Most Blackeye fans are too stupid or arrogant to understand this concept.

And I said "anything"....at least the hockey team from Columbus MUST come to BG due to being in the same conference.
Oh I forgot...OSU did come to BG to play in men's soccer last year and the then #11 Blackeyes left town with a 3-2 OT loss to a team that hadn't won a game in a year and a half!

Have a great Falcon day.

[Falconfreak90]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Drew,
I think he answers that every time he posts.

teke,
Which school leads in NCAA infractions? Take a guess. BG has drilled the Blackeyes for so many years on the ice it ain't funny. And OSU is too freakin scared to play any other Ohio college teams in hoops.
"If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true."
Really? BG did beat Va Tech, just like OSU. How about we go back to 2000 or 2002? Those BG teams would have run the Blackeyes outta any gym.

"Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools".
Actually, I think BG does a pretty fine job now competing with the "Big Boys". Ask Purdue, Missouri, Kansas, Northwestern and the likes about that.

Gimme the perfectly clean record with the NCAA that BG has over your "National title but we commit infractions left and right" record any day.
BTW, in the last 40 years, BG and OSU each have ONE national title. Hmmm>And BG's was earned on the playing surface, not a bunch of polls and opinions.

Finally, lets look at graduation rates for both schools. Or, better yet, let's not cuz it wouldn't be a pretty sight for OSU.

Have a nice FALCON day.

[tekekini]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Drew,
I think he answers that every time he posts.

teke,
Which school leads in NCAA infractions? Take a guess. BG has drilled the Blackeyes for so many years on the ice it ain't funny. And OSU is too freakin scared to play any other Ohio college teams in hoops.
"If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true."
Really? BG did beat Va Tech, just like OSU. How about we go back to 2000 or 2002? Those BG teams would have run the Blackeyes outta any gym.

"Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools".
Actually, I think BG does a pretty fine job now competing with the "Big Boys". Ask Purdue, Missouri, Kansas, Northwestern and the likes about that.

Gimme the perfectly clean record with the NCAA that BG has over your "National title but we commit infractions left and right" record any day.
BTW, in the last 40 years, BG and OSU each have ONE national title. Hmmm>And BG's was earned on the playing surface, not a bunch of polls and opinions.

Finally, lets look at graduation rates for both schools. Or, better yet, let's not cuz it wouldn't be a pretty sight for OSU.

Have a nice FALCON day.

Miami Florida,

and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break.

Yes BG has beat some BCS schools but come on. What has Kansas , mizzou, Nwestern done in the last 70 years? give me a break. You are being rediculous.

Tressell is running a clean program. He is not a booster. He is not the one who gave Smith $500. He is not the basketball coach. He did not give some slavak money for his dying father.

get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.

[Bleeding Orange]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Drew,
I think he answers that every time he posts.

teke,
Which school leads in NCAA infractions? Take a guess. BG has drilled the Blackeyes for so many years on the ice it ain't funny. And OSU is too freakin scared to play any other Ohio college teams in hoops.
"If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true."
Really? BG did beat Va Tech, just like OSU. How about we go back to 2000 or 2002? Those BG teams would have run the Blackeyes outta any gym.

"Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools".
Actually, I think BG does a pretty fine job now competing with the "Big Boys". Ask Purdue, Missouri, Kansas, Northwestern and the likes about that.

Gimme the perfectly clean record with the NCAA that BG has over your "National title but we commit infractions left and right" record any day.
BTW, in the last 40 years, BG and OSU each have ONE national title. Hmmm>And BG's was earned on the playing surface, not a bunch of polls and opinions.

Finally, lets look at graduation rates for both schools. Or, better yet, let's not cuz it wouldn't be a pretty sight for OSU.

Have a nice FALCON day.

Miami Florida,

and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break.

Yes BG has beat some BCS schools but come on. What has Kansas , mizzou, Nwestern done in the last 70 years? give me a break. You are being rediculous.

Tressell is running a clean program. He is not a booster. He is not the one who gave Smith $500. He is not the basketball coach. He did not give some slavak money for his dying father.

get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.

Sorry bud, but what is "rediculous" is the fact that you can't spell ridiculous and then demand that people salute the breadth and scope of your knowledge.

You need to find the door. You are embarassing yourself.

[Falconfreak90]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Drew,
I think he answers that every time he posts.

teke,
Which school leads in NCAA infractions? Take a guess. BG has drilled the Blackeyes for so many years on the ice it ain't funny. And OSU is too freakin scared to play any other Ohio college teams in hoops.
"If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true."
Really? BG did beat Va Tech, just like OSU. How about we go back to 2000 or 2002? Those BG teams would have run the Blackeyes outta any gym.

"Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools".
Actually, I think BG does a pretty fine job now competing with the "Big Boys". Ask Purdue, Missouri, Kansas, Northwestern and the likes about that.

Gimme the perfectly clean record with the NCAA that BG has over your "National title but we commit infractions left and right" record any day.
BTW, in the last 40 years, BG and OSU each have ONE national title. Hmmm>And BG's was earned on the playing surface, not a bunch of polls and opinions.

Finally, lets look at graduation rates for both schools. Or, better yet, let's not cuz it wouldn't be a pretty sight for OSU.

Have a nice FALCON day.

Miami Florida,

and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break.

Yes BG has beat some BCS schools but come on. What has Kansas , mizzou, Nwestern done in the last 70 years? give me a break. You are being rediculous.

Tressell is running a clean program. He is not a booster. He is not the one who gave Smith $500. He is not the basketball coach. He did not give some slavak money for his dying father.

get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.

"Miami, FL"
I meant between BG and Zero State....which I'm sure you knew.

"and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break."

Ummm...cuz they probably are. Look at the SEC alone. They don't call it the Southeastern Cheaters conference for nothin'>


Hmmm...didn't NW win the Big Ten 3 times in the last decade? Oh, sorry to confuse you with facts.

Ask Tressel about his car deals for players at YTown State. He isn't as clean as you think or wish. LOL

"get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY"

Well, if Zero State would run a clean program and quit embarassing themselves in the media, I would.
Since you obviously love Zero State so much, why are you here all the time?
Actually, I spend most of my days attending or listening to BGSU athletic events and on this board. Imagine that, you are wrong again...

You are pathetic. Now run along like a good boy and go play in traffic. But watch out...there could be Blackeye players behind the wheels of those cars!

[tekekini]

teke: would you rather have a clean program you could be proud of or a national title?

Drew,
I think he answers that every time he posts.

teke,
Which school leads in NCAA infractions? Take a guess. BG has drilled the Blackeyes for so many years on the ice it ain't funny. And OSU is too freakin scared to play any other Ohio college teams in hoops.
"If BG had to play the OSU in BBALL this year, OSU would win 9 times out of 10. Sad fr some of you, but true."
Really? BG did beat Va Tech, just like OSU. How about we go back to 2000 or 2002? Those BG teams would have run the Blackeyes outta any gym.

"Then it would give BG a chance to grow further than a great mid major and give them more chances to compete with bigger schools".
Actually, I think BG does a pretty fine job now competing with the "Big Boys". Ask Purdue, Missouri, Kansas, Northwestern and the likes about that.

Gimme the perfectly clean record with the NCAA that BG has over your "National title but we commit infractions left and right" record any day.
BTW, in the last 40 years, BG and OSU each have ONE national title. Hmmm>And BG's was earned on the playing surface, not a bunch of polls and opinions.

Finally, lets look at graduation rates for both schools. Or, better yet, let's not cuz it wouldn't be a pretty sight for OSU.

Have a nice FALCON day.

Miami Florida,

and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break.

Yes BG has beat some BCS schools but come on. What has Kansas , mizzou, Nwestern done in the last 70 years? give me a break. You are being rediculous.

Tressell is running a clean program. He is not a booster. He is not the one who gave Smith $500. He is not the basketball coach. He did not give some slavak money for his dying father.

get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY.

"Miami, FL"
I meant between BG and Zero State....which I'm sure you knew.

I'm sure BG has done some things they are so under the radar no one cares, they can get away with it.

"and why do you think that everyone who is in the BCS is cheating? give me a break."

Ummm...cuz they probably are. Look at the SEC alone. They don't call it the Southeastern Cheaters conference for nothin'>

again, this is a cry baby attitude that a MAC fan takes because no one respects us so we are gonna bitch about it and cry a river for the whole friggin country


Hmmm...didn't NW win the Big Ten 3 times in the last decade? Oh, sorry to confuse you with facts.

ONCE and they didnt play OSU that year. The years BG beat them Nwestern was a cellar dwellar. big whip.

Ask Tressel about his car deals for players at YTown State. He isn't as clean as you think or wish. LOL


Never heard about it, doubt it was ever proven or he would have been fired, banned, etc. Jealousy that all he does is win football games, big football games, and already has a National title? I think so

"get a life lol. all you have to do all day is wine about how OSU gets more attention than BG. GET OVER IT DONT CRY IT WILL ALWAYS BE THAT WAY"

Well, if Zero State would run a clean program and quit embarassing themselves in the media, I would.
Since you obviously love Zero State so much, why are you here all the time?
Actually, I spend most of my days attending or listening to BGSU athletic events and on this board. Imagine that, you are wrong again...T

You are pathetic. Now run along like a good boy and go play in traffic. But watch out...there could be Blackeye players behind the wheels of those cars!

I am here because I care and want the best for BG. But you guys are living in a dream world that has no hopes of comming tru unless we get the hell out of the MAC. The MAC is killing us. This is a football state dominated by one school and three decent teams (UT, Miami and BG). OSU is and always will be the pride and joy but fro christ sake get the F out of the MAC and make an attempt at takig Northwest Ohio from OSU a little more. Being in a conference where you have a 1 in a billion shot at a BCS bowl is not going to take the studetns from rooting for OSU or UM. its just not. people want something on a larger scale to root for and BG can not provide that for them. Rooting for BG and nothing else is like waitinf for fatstutz to lose a pound. its an unlikely dream.

and I constanrly write about OSU because you people constantly write about how much you hate them and how much their fans are arrogant assholes.

Did you ever think that their fans are like that towards you because of the assumptions you make about all OSU fans. I know I act like that towards you people because of the S**t you say on here. when in reality you are talking about a select few that you have bad encounters with.

Most dont think OSU is god and going to win every game hands down. they get nervous just like you do when we play Miami or UT etc.. OSU players bleed just like BG players.
jsut except the facts of how it works in Ohio. The whining crying and bickering is old and it makes you and this whole message board look like a bitch factory.

It really makes it hard to even try to like BG. Because you all act just like you cliam OSU fans to act like.

But I guess it is OK if you do it right?

Jokers.[/b]

[Bleeding Orange]

You know what teke? Myself and a lot of other people around here would rather not have people like you as BG fans. People like you are front-runners, plain and simple. If you can't understand that people can love a school and that school's sports even when the likelihood of something as meaningless as a national title is involved (yes teke, its mostly meaningless), then you simply do not belong here. Period. It is quite sad that you will never be able to feel true pride for your alma mater because, after all, we are nothing more than second-fiddle to OSU and that is the way it is always going to be apparently. You made a mistake coming to school here because you have deprived yourself of one of the greatest feelings in the world - being proud of an institution that you were once part of.

The bottom line is, you think you are being very clever by doing nothing but belittle BGSU to spite the fact that many people don't like OSU; however, by doing so, you have accomplished only two things:

(1) Making yourself look like a jackass and a moron (just except it, dude ), and

(2) Justifying just about every stereotype every concieved regarding the Buckeyes.

You can continue to kid yourself and think that you are being clever and teaching all of us peons some kind of a lesson if you want, but know that you are just wasting your time. You are more of a running joke than anything around here. I'm sure that somewhere deep in my soul it would make me happy if you simply disassociated your pathetic self with this board and this institution. After all, your $12 on Saturdays isn't paying anyone's salary. But at the same time, I really don't give a crap either way. I guess the AD will continue to take your $12 as long as you are willing to give it to them.

(Ir)Regardless of what you do, myself and every other member of this board will continue to be proud of, and probably live and die, with our Falcons. You may think us silly, but then again, you are nothing more than a troll anyways, so who cares?