BG and Ohio State head to head

[tekekini]

not in unison as an organized chant of course college students are gonna drop F bombs. what I said was in comparison to UW. OSU's band/student section do not have a organized chant that is yelled to music of the band that says F the blue.

I never said students werent going to say F the blue. on their own.. but the entire student section has never done it all together.

[Tricky_Falcon]

not in unison as an organized chant of course college students are gonna drop F bombs. what I said was in comparison to UW. OSU's band/student section do not have a organized chant that is yelled to music of the band that says F the blue.

I never said students werent going to say F the blue. on their own.. but the entire student section has never done it all together.

Haha wow you're a joke. I'm done wasting bandwidth on you.

[tekekini]

not in unison as an organized chant of course college students are gonna drop F bombs. what I said was in comparison to UW. OSU's band/student section do not have a organized chant that is yelled to music of the band that says F the blue.

I never said students werent going to say F the blue. on their own.. but the entire student section has never done it all together.

Haha wow you're a joke. I'm done wasting bandwidth on you.

because I am right?

looks like joke is on you

[Bleeding Orange]

you only hear about OSU fans because , oh wait, you live in Ohio. I have stories from michigan and their fans, that I have never seen or even heard of happening at OSU.. My grandpa had beer and penny filled marshmallows thrown at him just for wearing an OSU hat.

Wisconsin was the worst I have ever seen, being an 8 PM game prolly didnt help because all the little juveniles had extra drinking time but they were bad. even inside the stadium the band had a little song they played with brief pauses where the whol student section in unison would yell "F*&k ohio state. I can not believe their president , their athletic director and everyone else who has any say in the matter allows that to happen. Thats a great show of class. Wisconsin is by far the worst place I have ever been.
I know you guys didnt have the same experience, because it was 11 AM there, they didnt get their drinking time in and they prolly didnt really care. Most of them thought they were going to lose to a MAC school. Makes a difference.

West Virginia, their fans were even worse than UM fans, what do you expect from a group of toothless hillbillies drinking moonshine and kissing their sisters. OSU fans took Morgantown over which made it a bit better, we had more fans than they did or it may have taken UW's place as my #1 worst place.


anyways the point is that everyone has different experiences no matter where they go..Everyone has asshole fans. You only hear so much about OSU's bad fans because your from here. if you were from wisconsin you would hear about theirs, West VA etc..

I am willing to bet that all of you who went to OSU game few years ago didnt have that bad of an experience beyond losing the game. I am sure people made comments and I am willing to bet 90 % of those were in good fun and humor. The other 10% were prolly to drunk to pay attention to the game. If someone made a comment and you took it personally then shame on you for not being able to take it and move on.

A rational post for a rational post. Good on 'ya! Seriously.

The thing that I most people around here think you are missing is the fact that, yes, every school has their bad fans. We all know that. Go visit the hockey forum and you will see that we actively ackowledge and engage that fact.

My issue with OSU and their fans (and I suspect this is the same issue for many around here) is essentially attitude. The fact that OSU fans simply refuse to ackowledge the existence of any other football in the State of Ohio. Many fans at many MAC schools in Michigan and Ohio feel this way, and based on my conversations with many Memphis fans at the GMAC Bowl two years ago, they feel exactly the same way about the SEC schools and their fans that they are sandwiched in between.

Now, you are going to tell me that I'm an idiot because OSU, Michigan, and the SEC is on a totally different level than Bowling Green, the MAC and CDOA. Thats fine - we'll agree to disagree. I chose not to respect or recogrnize the authority of the BCS because it is, in my opinion, a corrupt system that is doing nothing but commercializing an athletic endeavor born solely of education, and is therefore ruining it. Nothing short of the complete disappearance of this system will change my opinion of it. I don't hate OSU, Michigan, or the SEC. I resent their organizational complicity in this system that they engage in. I resent their fans for their condescending, better-than-thou attitude that is the only thing truly perpetuating this system. If every football fan in the country stood up and called shinnanigans on the BCS, it would no longer exist. Unfortunately, the BCS has convinced people that they are legitimate, and most BCS fans aren't smart enough to see that they are being duped. That is my firm opinion, and nothing you, Jesus or my mother says is going to change it.

The reality of the relationship between the BCS and "mid-majors" is that they are one and the same: Division IA. Again, you are going to call me silly for pointing this out, and you will likely use bowl records and head-to-head records between BCS schools and "mid-majors" as evidence of my idiocy. Great. Eveyone does, and it is a tired, cliched argument. People also make the argument that there should be two different divisions for BCS and "mid-major" schools because of the "obvious" lack of parity between the two sub-divisions. People forget, though, that the NCAA tried to do this in the 1982-83 season when MAC schools (and I think a number of others) were demoted to DIAA. That lasted for a year, because it was clearly BS and those schools that were demoted were enraged and insulted by the NCAA arbitrarily taking scholarships away from them.

And that brings us to the reality of the division system in football, and most other sports. It is about scholarships, plain and simple. DIA schools in football can give out 85 scholarships, DIAA 65, and so on and so forth. It is not about how many fans come to games (although that is a stipulation for becoming DIA), it is not about how much revenue schools bring to bowls - it is about the number of scholarships that schools either can, or are willing to fund. Therefore: Bowling Green=Ohio State; Eastern Michigan=Michigan; Memphis=Tennessee; Boise State=USC. That is an incontrovertible fact. At this point, the argument that although the division system in football, which was originally based on the number of scholarships allocated, no longer is what it is about or what it should be about is probably fermenting in a lot of people's minds; however, any argument of this nature would be weak, at best. If college football divisioning is no longer about available scholarships, college football is no longer about scholarship, and should therefore not be funded by colleges and universities. It is then a professional sport and should be taken over by corporate entities like the BCS.

The bottom line (of my heartfelt opinion) is that I don't believe OSU, or BCS fans are dealing with reality, and that they are bastardizing an athletic endeavor which should be more about academics and education than national championships or sports. Collegiate athletics have always been, and should always be about healthy and productive competition, not about bowl earnings. It makes my stomach turn when I hear people say that MAC, WAC or Sun Belt teams should be left out of bowls because they won't bring in revenue to the bowls. If that is what bowls are truly about, in many ways, I don't care that BG or any school participate in them, although it is a nice reward for players and fans. This is going to inevitably start the stupid old debate about bowls vs. playoffs and I appologize in advance for that, but people forget that bowls are not open competition - they are simply pageants put on by a group of people seeking to profit off of it, much like a Broadway play.

So you see, teke, this is why I dislike OSU. I don't hate them. I hate Toledo - after all, they are the real enemy here. What I do hate is people who tell myself and my fellow "mid-major" fans that they have to be a fan of a BCS school because they are the only ones playing for anything. When you really step back and look at the whole picture, no football team in the country is truly playing for anything besides notoriety and bowl payouts, the latter of which is not in any way in the spirit of collegiate athletic competition. Collegiate gymnasts play for nothing besides a trophy - I don't see anything that makes collegiate football players any different, and I don't think anyone else who is being honest does either.

Now, believe me, I am not calling you stupid for believing in this system. Indeed, calling you stupid would indicate that you view is an aberration from the norm; sadly it is not. And just because this is the norm does not mean that myself, or anyone else has to believe in it. Much like popular support for the Nazi Party in 1930's Germany (and this is certainly not a direct comparison for those of you writing angry letters) did not make the Holocaust right, nor does popular support of the BCS and "mid-major" classifications.

And now that my masters thesis is completed, I'm going to go and fill out grad school applications.

[San Diego Falcon]

bottom line is that you all hate because of jealousy, you want BG to be where OSU is so bad that you can not handle it. It has turned every sigle one of you into a cry baby. Northern Ohio is pretty heavily democratic, go figure. Democrats are sterotypical class A ball babying sobbers who are not willing to accept the things in their lives the way that they are but cry because they want everything changed. The world does not work like that, and you still have not figured that out. Maybe that just shows your maturity levels?

For the record, I'm a very conservative Republican and also an Ohio State fan (so I'm not a "class A bally babying sobber" or a "hater").

However, I just don't understand why a BGSU alum would be so passionate in defending and promoting another school that he/she did not attend on a BGSU message board. What has Ohio State ever done for you to warrant more loyalty than your alma mater? BGSU provided you an education, so why can't you direct that passion to the institution that deserves it?

[Falconfreak90]

Bleeding Orange,

That was VERY impressive. And correct.

GO FALCONS!

[tekekini]

you only hear about OSU fans because , oh wait, you live in Ohio. I have stories from michigan and their fans, that I have never seen or even heard of happening at OSU.. My grandpa had beer and penny filled marshmallows thrown at him just for wearing an OSU hat.

Wisconsin was the worst I have ever seen, being an 8 PM game prolly didnt help because all the little juveniles had extra drinking time but they were bad. even inside the stadium the band had a little song they played with brief pauses where the whol student section in unison would yell "F*&k ohio state. I can not believe their president , their athletic director and everyone else who has any say in the matter allows that to happen. Thats a great show of class. Wisconsin is by far the worst place I have ever been.
I know you guys didnt have the same experience, because it was 11 AM there, they didnt get their drinking time in and they prolly didnt really care. Most of them thought they were going to lose to a MAC school. Makes a difference.

West Virginia, their fans were even worse than UM fans, what do you expect from a group of toothless hillbillies drinking moonshine and kissing their sisters. OSU fans took Morgantown over which made it a bit better, we had more fans than they did or it may have taken UW's place as my #1 worst place.


anyways the point is that everyone has different experiences no matter where they go..Everyone has asshole fans. You only hear so much about OSU's bad fans because your from here. if you were from wisconsin you would hear about theirs, West VA etc..

I am willing to bet that all of you who went to OSU game few years ago didnt have that bad of an experience beyond losing the game. I am sure people made comments and I am willing to bet 90 % of those were in good fun and humor. The other 10% were prolly to drunk to pay attention to the game. If someone made a comment and you took it personally then shame on you for not being able to take it and move on.

So you see, teke, this is why I dislike OSU. I don't hate them. I hate Toledo - after all, they are the real enemy here. What I do hate is people who tell myself and my fellow "mid-major" fans that they have to be a fan of a BCS school because they are the only ones playing for anything. When you really step back and look at the whole picture, no football team in the country is truly playing for anything besides notoriety and bowl payouts, the latter of which is not in any way in the spirit of collegiate athletic competition. Collegiate gymnasts play for nothing besides a trophy - I don't see anything that makes collegiate football players any different, and I don't think anyone else who is being honest does either.

Now, believe me, I am not calling you stupid for believing in this system. Indeed, calling you stupid would indicate that you view is an aberration from the norm; sadly it is not. And just because this is the norm does not mean that myself, or anyone else has to believe in it. Much like popular support for the Nazi Party in 1930's Germany (and this is certainly not a direct comparison for those of you writing angry letters) did not make the Holocaust right, nor does popular support of the BCS and "mid-major" classifications.

And now that my masters thesis is completed, I'm going to go and fill out grad school applications.

Lets get some things straight. I do not tell you that you have to like a BCS school because a mid major can not win a national title. first off, it is not true, they could win a narional title it is just near impossible. you are allowed to like whoever you want, My problem with you people is that you dislike and trash anyone who can remain loyal to their hometown team, the team they have liked for 17 years before they even knew who BGSU was, while at the same time cheering for BGSU.

The only reason I went to BG was for smaller class sizes, I felt that I could learn btter in smaller settings. Thats a personal preference. Or else I would have went to OSU. I personally do not see anything attractive about Bowling green or BGSU. I think the town is crappy, it is kind of dirty, and the locals are a bit freaky. I went to BG so I could learn definately not for football.

I would have went to OSU if I cared about football more than school. and that doesnt mean that BG is a better educational institution, it means like I sad that I prefer smaller class sizes where I could be a name in class and not a number. OSU is one of the top educational institutions in the country believe it or not.


For the last issue highlighted by large text above, I DO NOT believe in the BCS system. I believe the only time it works is the years of 2002 (OSU v Miami) and this year )UT v USC) because it was easy for them. There were only two undefeated teams those years. every other year there was atleast a share of a title therefore I and more fans of BCS schools than you think, believe the BCS is flawed and that there needs to be a playoff. Coaches have fought for playoffs and they have failed.
I have said a couple of times on these boards I want a playoff. I have said before that I whole heartedly believe that OSU would be national champions right now if there was a playoff this year.

I dont believe in the BCS I just accept it that it is the way it is.

[San Diego Falcon]

I personally do not see anything attractive about Bowling green or BGSU. I think the town is crappy, it is kind of dirty, and the locals are a bit freaky.

With friends like these.....

[transfer2BGSU]

I believe the only time it works is the years of 2002 (OSU v Miami)...

2002 - wasn't that the year OSWho was not called for pass interference against that Miami player in the endzone at the Fiesta Bowl?

Actually, my reason for posting - I met some folks at a conference I am attending and they are not big OSWHo fans either. They said when they play OSWHo and the cheerleaders yell 'O - H" they like to yell 'N - O' and I thought that was pretty funny

[tekekini]

That is about as lame as BGSUcks but since it is about OSU I guess it is funny. When it is about BG you get pissed

[Falconfreak90]

That is about as lame as BGSUcks but since it is about OSU I guess it is funny. When it is about BG you get pissed

You're still here?

[tekekini]

That is about as lame as BGSUcks but since it is about OSU I guess it is funny. When it is about BG you get pissed

You're still here?

Im everywhere focker

[Falconfreak90]

That is about as lame as BGSUcks but since it is about OSU I guess it is funny. When it is about BG you get pissed

You're still here?

Im everywhere focker

Ooooooooooooooh....big boy uses bad language.

You've got issues....

[Bleeding Orange]

[Rightupinthere]

GO BG!

And go take a cold shower, kids.