HoustonFalcon wrote:I read scouting reports everyday, and you really have to see the kid play, and what type of competition he plays against to really get a sense of how good a kid is. I am not saying that the recruiting report is wrong, but sometimes a kid isn't as good as a recruiting report says he or she is.
Agreed, I've seen ballyhooed recruits have mediocre college careers and other kids slip through the cracks and surprise at the college level.
However, even if Sims is a disappointment, it takes a BIG stretch of the imagination to think that he couldn't out-play Floyd.
I am in no way questioning DD's recruiting choices. The only thing that I said was that people need to watch the kid play before making comments like he is going to solidify our offense next year as a freshman. That is all that I am saying. Some kids take longer to get the hang of the college game over the high school game. The one person that has said they have seen this kid play is on record as of today saying that he is not much better than what we already have. We need a ball handler on this team in a bad way, and according the PhalconFan, he isn't there yet in that regard. Give me some more people that have seen this kid play, and their opinions, and then I will get excited. I too welcome any kid that any of the coaches bring in to the Falcon program, but I also know that most kids take time to adjust. I am dealing with them everyday.
Plus, you were talking about him contributing next year--as a freshman, and we have a number of freshmen this year who might be good players who aren't contributing yet....
HoustonFalcon wrote:I am in no way questioning DD's recruiting choices. The only thing that I said was that people need to watch the kid play before making comments like he is going to solidify our offense next year as a freshman. That is all that I am saying. Some kids take longer to get the hang of the college game over the high school game. The one person that has said they have seen this kid play is on record as of today saying that he is not much better than what we already have. We need a ball handler on this team in a bad way, and according the PhalconFan, he isn't there yet in that regard. Give me some more people that have seen this kid play, and their opinions, and then I will get excited. I too welcome any kid that any of the coaches bring in to the Falcon program, but I also know that most kids take time to adjust. I am dealing with them everyday.
Understandable points here, but why does it take so long for you to get excited about a player coming into our program, especially a needed point guard. I know he wont come in and play like jason kidd, but he could develop into a solid point guard for us in the future. Theres nothing wrong with be excited about falcon basketball.
This is my first post so I hope I'm doing this right. But I ahve to put in my two cents.
I have read, everytime we lose, about how bad Floyd and Robinson (on offense) are. And how Sims will be the answer next year.
First Sims doesn't help this year. Second he plays Class D ball and has ok stats. I read in the beginning of the year that Gerin looked good. He played Class A Div I ball, had better numbers that Sims and took his team to Regional Finals vs Canton Mckinley scoring 23 points.
Why not give him a shot?
Ok, just to clarify . . . Sims plays for Ft. Wayne Snider which is Class 5A in Indiana. It is the equivalent of at least the upper half of Division I in Ohio as far as size of the schools go. He also plays in the SAC in Ft. Wayne, which I would argue is as competitive as the Toledo City League in most years. Maybe not head-up, but as far as rivalries and easy wins go, they're on the same playing field and each produce multiple D-1 players each year. So yes, Sims plays against very good competition. He also plays with a Tennessee commit so he isn't the featured player in the offense.
That being said, I have said it before and will say it again, as long as John Floyd has eligibility in this program, he is and will continue to be the #1 choice at point guard as long as Dan Dakich is the head coach. Dakich is loyal to a fault. We've all seen this with Cory Eyink, Cory Ryan, others and now Floyd. Dakich loves John Floyd and will continue to play him even though he seemingly offers him very little in terms of ball-handling, quickness and defensive pressure, all staples of the Dakich "program."
To think that Sims is going to come in and demand any significant time is absurd. I would be amazed if Sims plays double-digit numbers per game next season with the plethora of guards that we will have, specifically Floyd (senior) and Moon (junior).
Does the point guard slot need to be addressed? Yes, absolutely, but finding "difference making" point guards at the mid-major level is like the football team landing a 4-star football recruit. It could happen, but you don't want to hold your breath.
OptionQB wrote:Does the point guard slot need to be addressed? Yes, absolutely, but finding "difference making" point guards at the mid-major level is like the football team landing a 4-star football recruit. It could happen, but you don't want to hold your breath.
Option, that's interesting. I would have thought that Centers were hard to find, but that teams could find PGs easier, because we could go with a smaller guy than the majors would be willing to pick up.
One thing I have noticed is that when we have teams on the heels and we're playing good D, we just don't open up big leads, and you can just feel us going into a long offensive slump, and the other team just doesn't have far to go to get back into the game. We will let a team hang at 5-7 points down, even when they aren't scoring at all.
OptionQB wrote:Does the point guard slot need to be addressed? Yes, absolutely, but finding "difference making" point guards at the mid-major level is like the football team landing a 4-star football recruit. It could happen, but you don't want to hold your breath.
Option, that's interesting. I would have thought that Centers were hard to find, but that teams could find PGs easier, because we could go with a smaller guy than the majors would be willing to pick up.
To the contrary, the truth is the exact opposite of what Option is saying. Difference-making point guards show up in the MAC every year.
However, Option does have a great point about DD's pathological fascination with Floyd. Floyd will continue to play, even if Sims turns out to be excellent. Floyd will get 25-30 minute per game the rest of the year and as much next year. Moten will sit. Clements will sit. It won't matter how much Moon improves.
In my opinion, and judging from salutation found below, I think it qualifies for this discussion. I have lived in Ft. Wayne for 13+ years now, I have known Ryan for about 1/2 of that and have seen him play both baseball (coached him for that matter) and basketball. He is a quiet young man and a good kid at heart. He is not, however the point guard we are looking for. His strenght is his shot - very good when "on", not his ball handling skills, passing and/or leadership. He can and will contribute to the future success of our team, just not where some think he should/will.
Ps. Anybody out there remember seeing John Lange from Ft. Wayne Northrop play? Now he is a pont guard that would have helped!!! Decided to play baseball at Moorehead St. instead.
Are any of those guys difference making point guards? If I recall, Mr. Ingram had more than his fair share of opportunities to turn the tide in the game last Sunday. Peyton Stovall is solid, but I'm not sure he's a difference maker. Absolutely, he makes Ball State much more competitive no questions asked, but as evidenced just last night, his team hasn't completely fallen apart without him.
Haynes, Cage and Joyce are all solid as well, but none of them are "difference makers."
The basis of the argument was that "difference makers" don't show up as freshman, but yes BleedOrange, the MAC has had its share of difference makers show up eventually.
Ok, lets look at this another way. Do you think any one of those I mentioned, plus Troutman at OU, would make a DIFFERENCE in a game versus BG? Hell, Stovall's freshman backup dominated us at the point guard position.
Each one of those that mentioned have a chance to make a diffrence every night. They have quickness, can shoot, penetrate, handle the ball, and run their offense. Is it any coincidence that those point guards mentioned are from the better teams in the league? And, yes I consider Toledo one of the better teams in the league talent wise...I just don't think their coach is equal to their talent.
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OptionQB wrote:Are any of those guys difference making point guards? If I recall, Mr. Ingram had more than his fair share of opportunities to turn the tide in the game last Sunday. Peyton Stovall is solid, but I'm not sure he's a difference maker. Absolutely, he makes Ball State much more competitive no questions asked, but as evidenced just last night, his team hasn't completely fallen apart without him.
Haynes, Cage and Joyce are all solid as well, but none of them are "difference makers."
The basis of the argument was that "difference makers" don't show up as freshman, but yes BleedOrange, the MAC has had its share of difference makers show up eventually.
ALL of those guys are difference makers. Throw Jeremy Fears into that group, as well. Terry Reynolds, Patrick Jackson, Andrew Mitchell, Brandon Pardon.
I have no idea what you're envisioning, but it seem to exist in the real world.
