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TG1996 wrote:Curious question... what was the crowd like? At times on the radio broadcast it sounded like a good number, but other times it sounded like the band was about all that was there...
Actually it seemed like the student section was more into the game than the band was. Sadly there was a good chunk of the band sitting throughout the game, even some of the exciting parts. It even seemed to me that the cheerleaders were pretty quiet and subdued. I don't know if that is because it's a weeknight game so we all had classes earlier in the day or what.
For a Tuesday night game, the attendance was pretty good. Anderson was roaring a few times, although those were mostly on the poorer calls made by the refs. By the way, I really liked seeing the Anderson Animals mix with the Sideline Squad. It appeared to really unify the students and you guys were very vocal...I love it! I just wish we could get some more of the students to cheer like that.
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Attendance was listed at just 1,415. :(

One stat that really jumped out at me after looking at the box score was free throws. Buffalo was 20-27 from the line and BG was just 6-7. Wow. If I saw those figures, I would swear it was a road game for us.
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BGSU33 wrote:
One stat that really jumped out at me after looking at the box score was free throws. Buffalo was 20-27 from the line and BG was just 6-7. Wow. If I saw those figures, I would swear it was a road game for us.
No, it was simply a home game for BG with MAC officials... :roll:

And I realize that the radio is a very poor medium from which to judge, but I would be willing to bet more than a few pennies that the attendance was much, much more than 1,415. At a couple of points it sounded as if there were that many students there alone.
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Bleeding...come on. We foul a lot. It wasn't the officials.
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Bleeding Orange wrote: And I realize that the radio is a very poor medium from which to judge, but I would be willing to bet more than a few pennies that the attendance was much, much more than 1,415. At a couple of points it sounded as if there were that many students there alone.
Personally I'm shocked to see the 1,415 number. If there were that many people there, then I'm stunned...looked like less than that. Fact is I had to buy a ticket, meaning I got one free as well. I couldn't find anyone that wanted to go with me, even for free. I got to the area around 6:20. I then had to drive around looking for a parking spot for almost 20 minutes. I wasn't being picky either. There was nothing in the overflow across from the cemetery, the health center lot was full. Finally somebody left their spot in the lot behind the Rec, and I got a spot in that far NE corner of that lot. The whole time I'm driving around I'm wondering if this team is really worth that. Combine experiences like that with the fact that we are not only very bad, but also very boring to watch play, it's no wonder our attendance sucks.

As for the game last night, you'd be hard pressed to blame the officials. Dan was on the court complaining, they gave him the T. Sure you don't like to see it with 18 seconds left, but it was a legit call. It was probably a makeup call from the 4 points the refs gifted us. Mawel thought he was in the WWE down low and somehow the ref only caught the retaliation, then the idiot compounded it by drawing a technical as well. If not for that generous call we wouldn't have even been in the game.

Why are free throws so lopsided? That's simple. We foul people. We MUG people. John Floyd cannot guard a single player in the MAC without fouling...he got away with a LOT last night. We're full of players that cannot guard quality opponents without fouling a ton. On the reverse we don't get to the line becuase we don't attack the basket. LeFeld was in obvious pain last night and was very ineffective in the post. Marschall started out pretty good, but was a nonfactor for the final 35 mins of the game. None of our guards can really penetrate a defense with any regularity. Instead we pass the ball and settle for three point shots or we get some clean layins. Unlike the guys on our team the opposition let's our layins go in rather than futiley foul them on the way up and give them the 3 point opportunity.

In the end we played like total crap throughout the entire first half. I told Option at halftime that we were gonna come back because we were far too inconsistent of a team to play that lousy 2 halfs in a row. Phillips provided a spark and Floyd made a couple nice plays and we cut the lead to 2. In the end we were fortunate to even have a chance to win the game with the way we played. The officials made a ton of calls, which is annoying, but most of them were probably justified. Until we find some way to guard people without mugging them it's going to be the norm. I wish I could say that the officials were obviously biased, but I'm not seeing it. We just couldn't guard UB.
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STUDENTS AT THE GAME, yeah right. I sat across from the student section behind the BG bench. I actually counted 273 people in the student section, and yes, that was at 7:20, after the second media timeout. Of those 273, several were not students. I would say the attendance would been 1200. It was PATHETIC. AA and SS did a great job in the first row to get the crowd that was there motivated. Good job Metz and crew. As far as the game, 27 FT to 7 is about right. Face it, BG does FOUL ALOT!!!! but some of those fouls were handchecks. We put our hands on opposing players because they are tired and try to grab the jersey. I think Phillips did a great job off the bench and deserved every second of his standing ovation. This team, if they play like they did in the second half can gel into a tough out in the MAC Tourny.
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I was at the game last night and the crowd was horrible. Maybe 1100 people. As far as the officiating, I know some of you will disagree with me, but I thought it was horrible, both ways though. I don't think the officials lost the game for us; we did that with our sloppy play and our "foul at any cost" mentality. I do think that technical was uncalled for. Reggie Witherspoon was on the floor the whole game to. If your going to make that call, especially at that point in the game, it should be called consistently and both coaches would of been T'd up twice and sent to the locker room early in the game. And the officials took any flow to the game and shot it down because of blowing the whistle every, and I mean EVERY time down the court. I found it a very boring game to watch bacause of that, until about 2 minutes left in the game and the run we made to pull within 2.
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hammb wrote:None of our guards can really penetrate a defense with any regularity. Instead we pass the ball and settle for three point shots or we get some clean layins.
I'm a firm believer that this is because they aren't running the offense correctly. The guys are cheating WAY too much and not providing enough space for eachother to make their cuts off the screens. When things are clustered in a motion offense, you can't get passes into the lane for people to drive to the basketball. Just my 2 cents on that...

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Good posts hammb, bgsu1972 and crazy fan. Attendance is awful. I can't believe that we can't get at least 1000 students there every game. Yes the home towners could do better as well but this parking situation is a REAL PROBLEM for 7:00 games. I love AA but we shouldn't put another dime into the place until a new arena is build somewhere out by the Football fields. I know people with season tickets that don't go to games during the week because of the parking. Are they true fans? Maybe not but that's the reality. The Ohio State Buckeyes are ranked in the top 20 and have had only one sellout. They have 50,000 students, and have nearly 500,000 people within a 45 minute drive of the arena. Both schools have the same problem but on a different scale. This team will have to really fight for a home court game in the tournament but if they hang together I really think this team could make a run next year!
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Metz wrote: I'm a firm believer that this is because they aren't running the offense correctly. The guys are cheating WAY too much and not providing enough space for eachother to make their cuts off the screens. When things are clustered in a motion offense, you can't get passes into the lane for people to drive to the basketball. Just my 2 cents on that...
Could be right. I know on the final play last night Mawel HAD to be doing something wrong. We've got like :10 to get a 3 point shot off. Obviously we're going to be looking for Samarco. Somehow Floyd & Soler collide at the top of the key. Eventually they were able to kick the ball out to Samarco for a decent look, but it was from NBA range.

Clearly there were people not where they belonged on that play.
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I'm wondering about the other side of the "FT disparity coin"... WHY are we only shooting seven FT's? Three if you don't count the supposed "gift" at the end? Seems like the obvious answer is the offense either heaving the first three they can get, or working the clock to take the ONLY three they can get. There's no argument that we foul alot (there was one stretch where every UB rebound midway through the second half resulted in a BG foul), but if we went to the line even 20 or 25 times last night, would we still lay it on the defense? Or does the huge differential make the defense look that much worse? 27 FT's for UB seems about average, it's not like we were out FT'd 50-10 or some thing...
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hammb wrote:Could be right. I know on the final play last night Mawel HAD to be doing something wrong. We've got like :10 to get a 3 point shot off. Obviously we're going to be looking for Samarco. Somehow Floyd & Soler collide at the top of the key. Eventually they were able to kick the ball out to Samarco for a decent look, but it was from NBA range.

Clearly there were people not where they belonged on that play.
At least they didn't run the ball through Lefeld 20' from the basket this time...
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Did anyone else notice at the end of the game that we took four ever to put the full court press on? It seemed like we had to let them bring it down two or three times with the clock QUICKLY ticking down before the whole team realized what was going on. I know the coach was screaming at the players to press them, they just didn't realize/sense the need for urgency. That has to come from our lack of experience, hopefully small things like that are being addressed over the next couple of days in practice.
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Yeah, without DD's T, they wouldn't have stopped the clock! BG was nowhere near the ball at that point.
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Attendance was posted as 1415 and you know they always exaggerate that figure. Interesting to note that BG's women drew 1600+ last Saturday. The women will probably continue to have a higher attendance because the games are not a mug-fest and are more offensively oriented. Not to mention that the attention is directed to the players on the court and their talents, not the sideline antics.

Wasn't there a quote after the first game of the year from our coach that we would "have to work on our fouling"?
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