BG falls in OT, 77-72.

[Flipper]

I'm with factman on this one. Rip the coaches all you want, it's their job to coach and they're adults. Leave the players out of it unless they 're doing something that shows a complete disregard for others or the school.

[DrDesert]

hammb and OptionQB are right on the money. I'm not convinced Moon is a DI player who can be relied upon to help a team win. I don't think anyone is questioning Floyd's intensity or desire....just questioning why the coach chooses to play him. Someone a few weeks ago made a good point that Einyk and Ryan were in the same mold......never produced, but got lots of playing time.

[hammb]

I just wonder how some of you would feel if you were reading all of this TRASH, and John Floyd was your son. The kid works his A$$ off, and isn't perfect, but that is no reason for him to have to put up this all of this abuse from a bunch of "has beens" or more likely "NEVER BEENS". If you want to complain about DD, he is a big boy, but GET OFF THE PLAYERS!!!

The players aren't big boys too? Floyd is what, 20, 21 years old? If he cannot take a little criticism then he shouldn't be playing a major sport at a division 1 University.

However, I guess we can move on to asking what the heck Dan sees/saw in this kid to give him a scholarship and keep putting him on the court. The kid plays his butt off, and I admire him for that, but that doesn't absolve him from all criticism.

In fact, my biggest problem with him is his propensity for doing things that make no sense. He's not super athletic, there's nothing he can do about that. But for a Jr. to be jacking up NBA range 3's with :10 on the shot clock, or dribbling for 10 seconds with :22 on the game clock when we need 2 scores? I'm sorry, but he's a Jr. & supposedly a leader, but he doesn't display any of those abilities.

So I guess from now on I'll bitch about Dan playing him, rather than him sucking, because he cannot take it.

[BGSU33]

All I will add to this point about not talking about players on here is this – it’s a losing battle. If anyone can find me just one board anywhere across the nation that fans don’t ever get on a player or players, let me know about it because I want to see it for myself. While I do agree sometimes a player can get piled on, the players are who everyone focus on the most and who we’ll always talk about. For that matter, there’s only one person that can make all of Floyd’s critics shut up and that is John Floyd himself. His play can and will speak louder than any words said for or against him. Just remember this, there were and still are people that doubted Michael Jordan. Point being, you will always have critics. Enough said, and I hope Floyd can get it going.

[svillefalcon]

Damn, come back from 20 down to lose like that. BG falls to 8-11, 4-5 MAC>

And it doesn't get any easier Wed night in Oxford.

GO FALCONS~BEAT MIAMI

I never really expected us to come back in the 2nd half today. But when we did, it got really crazy inside Anderson Arena. If only we could have won it in regulation, because overtime doesn't suit us well at all, and it showed. Why did Dakich have to put Floyd back in the game?! We were doing great with him on the bench, he comes in and the offense stagnated in OT. Plus, that was a nice hold the ball-then travel with 15 seconds left that sealed it.

i agree with you, i did not expect us to come bacl like that. i think the fans did a great job. thats how the attendance should be like taht always and we will start to see better results. when the crowd started to get back into it, the team fed off the crowds energy. lets get taht goinbg next saturday against OU and show kitty cat what we can do. Akron is the best team in the MAC easily

[svillefalcon]

Damn, come back from 20 down to lose like that. BG falls to 8-11, 4-5 MAC>

And it doesn't get any easier Wed night in Oxford.

GO FALCONS~BEAT MIAMI

I never really expected us to come back in the 2nd half today. But when we did, it got really crazy inside Anderson Arena. If only we could have won it in regulation, because overtime doesn't suit us well at all, and it showed. Why did Dakich have to put Floyd back in the game?! We were doing great with him on the bench, he comes in and the offense stagnated in OT. Plus, that was a nice hold the ball-then travel with 15 seconds left that sealed it.

i agree with you, i did not expect us to come bacl like that. i think the fans did a great job. thats how the attendance should be like taht always and we will start to see better results. when the crowd started to get back into it, the team fed off the crowds energy. lets get taht goinbg next saturday against OU and show kitty cat what we can do. Akron is the best team in the MAC easily

[The Niz]

Our crowds confuse the hell out of me. We get real excited throughout the whole comeback but as soon as we got to a point where we could actually win, and we even took the lead for a short while, the crowd died right down. Basic things like screaming during the opponents foul shots didn't happen even when the players and coaches were egging us on. The one point when I really felt the energy go was an Akron time out, it just completely spilled the wind from our sails. Shortly after that it was OT and the crowd came back for just a second, then was gone again as soon as Akron Started to pull ahead. THAT IS THE TIME TO MAKE THE MOST NOISE! Until I started school here I was never much of a basketball spectator but even I know which situations call for some intensity.

Fear the POO!

[Jham]

hammb and OptionQB are right on the money. I'm not convinced Moon is a DI player who can be relied upon to help a team win. I don't think anyone is questioning Floyd's intensity or desire....just questioning why the coach chooses to play him. Someone a few weeks ago made a good point that Einyk and Ryan were in the same mold......never produced, but got lots of playing time.

I would say that whoever made that statement is dead wrong.

Say what you want about Ryan (I have before) but he played because he could do things on the court, namely, make threes. Eyink was serviceable, if not solid.

And even if he couldn't make threes, Ryan and Eyink played when they were at BG because there was no other choice. Remember, there were six scholarship guys on the team the one year? One of them, Netter, got in foul trouble every game? And there were two football players on the team?

They played because they had to, and as a buddy of mine who covered the team that year said last week, that team was fun as hell to be around. They went 13-16, but damn if they didn't beat Ball State in Muncie -- thanks to CORY RYAN shutting down Chris Williams -- and get to Cleveland.

My thing is, and I haven't seen the team play this year, and I will not rip Floyd, because of that and I coudln't imagine reading this stuff about me, is that if it's so bad, Dakich isnt in a situation where he has to play Floyd. I guess that's what I don't get. I guess I'll reserve my opinion until i see them play.

[hammb]

My thing is, and I haven't seen the team play this year, and I will not rip Floyd, because of that and I coudln't imagine reading this stuff about me, is that if it's so bad, Dakich isnt in a situation where he has to play Floyd. I guess that's what I don't get. I guess I'll reserve my opinion until i see them play.

That's exactly what I don't understand. Yesterday we were down big in the first half and still down double digits for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. Then we put a lineup out there of Marschall, LeFeld, Moten, Samarco, and Wright at the point. Suddenly our offense was actually getting looks and hitting shots. Wright & Samarco were penetrating and hitting big jumpers. Wright was able to draw help when he drove the lane and he was dishing the ball off to the open man. Suddenly it looked like we had a clue on offense and we made a big comeback.

Then we finally get back into the game and down the stretch we go offense/defense subs with Moon on defense & Floyd on offense. Our defense was no better down the stretch & OT than it was with Moten guarding Joyce. However, our offense was completely stagnant, because those guys took over the ball. With Wright at the point you have a ball handler who the defense must respect both for his shot & off the dribble. With Moon/Floyd you get none of that. As a result they don't get as many chances to find open men either. I realize LeFeld fouled out early in OT, so we couldn't put that same 5 back out there, but we never once went back to the backcourt combo of Samarco/Wright/Moten.

2 years ago it looked like Wright was much better served at the SG position, but the more I watch this team the more obvious it becomes that this team is best served by having Wright at the point. I don't care who the other 4 guys on the court are, but our offense is at its best with Wright at the point.

I know Wright has a turnover problem at the point, but our other PGs are turnover prone as well. He's the only one of the three that can give us consistent scoring & gets good looks for his teammates as well. He also pulled down a couple big boards yesterday.

[edr4225]

My thing is, and I haven't seen the team play this year, and I will not rip Floyd, because of that and I coudln't imagine reading this stuff about me, is that if it's so bad, Dakich isnt in a situation where he has to play Floyd. I guess that's what I don't get. I guess I'll reserve my opinion until i see them play.

That's exactly what I don't understand. Yesterday we were down big in the first half and still down double digits for the first 10 minutes of the 2nd half. Then we put a lineup out there of Marschall, LeFeld, Moten, Samarco, and Wright at the point. Suddenly our offense was actually getting looks and hitting shots. Wright & Samarco were penetrating and hitting big jumpers. Wright was able to draw help when he drove the lane and he was dishing the ball off to the open man. Suddenly it looked like we had a clue on offense and we made a big comeback.

Then we finally get back into the game and down the stretch we go offense/defense subs with Moon on defense & Floyd on offense. Our defense was no better down the stretch & OT than it was with Moten guarding Joyce. However, our offense was completely stagnant, because those guys took over the ball. With Wright at the point you have a ball handler who the defense must respect both for his shot & off the dribble. With Moon/Floyd you get none of that. As a result they don't get as many chances to find open men either. I realize LeFeld fouled out early in OT, so we couldn't put that same 5 back out there, but we never once went back to the backcourt combo of Samarco/Wright/Moten.

2 years ago it looked like Wright was much better served at the SG position, but the more I watch this team the more obvious it becomes that this team is best served by having Wright at the point. I don't care who the other 4 guys on the court are, but our offense is at its best with Wright at the point.

I know Wright has a turnover problem at the point, but our other PGs are turnover prone as well. He's the only one of the three that can give us consistent scoring & gets good looks for his teammates as well. He also pulled down a couple big boards yesterday.

Excellent post by hammb! I completely agree

[Falconfliccbone]

Our crowds confuse the hell out of me. We get real excited throughout the whole comeback but as soon as we got to a point where we could actually win, and we even took the lead for a short while, the crowd died right down. Basic things like screaming during the opponents foul shots didn't happen even when the players and coaches were egging us on. The one point when I really felt the energy go was an Akron time out, it just completely spilled the wind from our sails. Shortly after that it was OT and the crowd came back for just a second, then was gone again as soon as Akron Started to pull ahead. THAT IS THE TIME TO MAKE THE MOST NOISE! Until I started school here I was never much of a basketball spectator but even I know which situations call for some intensity.

Fear the POO!

I agree. I thought having a good turnout would be a huge help, but it doesn't when they only cheer right after we take the lead. I was also surprised by the lack of enthusiasm from the Athletic Band....we're leaders for the students so if the band is not in the game, neither will the students. I stood for the whole game and cheered my heart out even though I was not in the band, but I act the same during the games I'm playing at.

One huge difference during the game: free throws. We missed numerous shots that could have easily been the difference at the end of the game. Maybe we should work on some basics like shooting before the next game.

[hammb]

Maybe we should work on some basics like shooting before the next game.

I know what you're saying, but we shot 34-35 on FTs against KSU. Unfortunately those things will usually return to their mean in sports. Since we are likely not a 95% free throw shooting team, it was a pretty safe bet that we'd have a down game when we came back down to earth

[FliccGirl]

I was also surprised by the lack of enthusiasm from the Athletic Band....we're leaders for the students so if the band is not in the game, neither will the students. I stood for the whole game and cheered my heart out even though I was not in the band, but I act the same during the games I'm playing at.

I was downright embarrassed about that. The band was way too quiet and unenthusiastic. A fellow picc player and I were pretty upset that we were the only bandies standing, and we held out for awhile... but as we were in the front row, we ended up reluctantly succumbing to the peer pressure...

[BleedOrange]

Maybe we should work on some basics like shooting before the next game.

I know what you're saying, but we shot 34-35 on FTs against KSU. Unfortunately those things will usually return to their mean in sports. Since we are likely not a 95% free throw shooting team, it was a pretty safe bet that we'd have a down game when we came back down to earth

Yeah. Shooting skills are something you develop after months and years of practice. Generally, you aren't going to correct for down fluctuations in by extra practice. Often too much can be counter productive.

[Falconfliccbone]

I was also surprised by the lack of enthusiasm from the Athletic Band....we're leaders for the students so if the band is not in the game, neither will the students. I stood for the whole game and cheered my heart out even though I was not in the band, but I act the same during the games I'm playing at.

I was downright embarrassed about that. The band was way too quiet and unenthusiastic. A fellow picc player and I were pretty upset that we were the only bandies standing, and we held out for awhile... but as we were in the front row, we ended up reluctantly succumbing to the peer pressure...

*shakes head*....don't give into peer pressure! Be the leader!
But then again, I think I can get away with standing since I'm a bit shorter than you .
I hope everyone is out for the next couple of games and show the opponents that Anderson is the house that roars!