My point is that it is not worth overpaying a guy who had a career year just because there is no one else available. I would put Winslow at WR and use Heiden at TE.
.Bryant doesn't offer the abilities in the PR/KR game, and doesn't have the abilities to pull off the trick plays, but I think you'd find him to be an upgrade over Randle El as a true WR. I cannot see them really doing that though, because they wouldn't resign Plaxico, so I really don't see them ponying up the cash for Bryant...that's just not their style. I really hope Bryant doesn't go to Pittsburgh. He's one of those players that isn't great, but he's good enough to make us regret letting him walk twice a year.Jacobs4Heisman wrote: The Steelers have been rumored to be looking at Bryant to potentially replace Randle El if he leaves. I hope to God they don't (and I don't think they will). Bryant does not impress me at all and I don't particularly want him on my team...
...I think going into 2006, you still have to rate them fourth in the division. It's not as wide of a gap as it has been, but they have a ways to go still. By 2007, they could be right up there if Savage and Co. can put two more solid drafts together.
hammb wrote: Bryant doesn't offer the abilities in the PR/KR game, and doesn't have the abilities to pull off the trick plays, but I think you'd find him to be an upgrade over Randle El as a true WR. I cannot see them really doing that though, because they wouldn't resign Plaxico, so I really don't see them ponying up the cash for Bryant...that's just not their style. I really hope Bryant doesn't go to Pittsburgh. He's one of those players that isn't great, but he's good enough to make us regret letting him walk twice a year.
, but reality is they won't make the playoffs for a very long time because of cincinatti and pitt, and also, the ravens are better than the browns right now. bryant is the go to guy, he won the best wide reciever in college and they got a steal when all they had to give up was quincy morgan who is god awful. also, they won't get deshaun foster, carolinas not gonna let him go anywhere. the browns problem is they don't have a number 2 reciever to compliment bryant. People around here used to say the browns recieving core was one of the best in the nfl when andre davis was their number 1 and I laughed in their faces. Davis is now what, the 4th or 5th reciever for the patriots??? They need a number 2 reciever like peerless price was to moulds in buffalo a few years ago and a all new offensive line to protect frye.I don't remember too many Browns fans saying that they ever had one of the best WR corps in the NFL, but they were thought to be pretty good. They had a lot of young talent with Kevin Johnson, Morgan, Davis, and Northcutt. Unfortunately none of them really developed into anything. FWIW, Davis was NEVER the number one option of that group. It was KJ until he was released, then it was Morgan. Then it was Antonio. I suppose Andre might've been the #1 in the couple games between the Morgan trade and when Antonio got the starting role. I don't think Bryant is really a #1 right now either. Braylon will be the #1, they are wanting AB to come back as the #2. That combo would definitely be in the top half of the league, IMO.moneymaker02 wrote:when did this turn into a browns forum????? and o how i love browns fans, always so optimistic
You guys will be sorely disappointed if you have to move Morgan to the #2 slot...people want to say that Bryant has the dropsies? Jurevicius would be a real good fit, he'd also fit in Cleveland, IMO. He is 31 years old, which might bring down his price some, but he had a very good year in Seattle this season and will probably make some cash. He'd be the one guy that I could see as being a better option than Bryant in this FA class. However, you want to talk about guys having big years in a contract year? He caught nearly as many passes & yards as the last 3 years combined, and had more TDs this year than those past 3 years. Injuries were a concern in some of those years, but it's not like Jurivicius has been real consistent for his career either, and his best season was this year, but not really any better than AB had this year in Cleveland (AB had more catches & more yards, JJ had more TDs, but his team was in a lot more TD opportunities). AB is also 6-7 years younger than Jurivicius. Givens would be a good alternative, as well, he's more consistent than AB, but doesn't have the upside really.dduncan wrote: Jurevicius would be a decent option for the Steelers, but he may get more money than the Steelers are willing to give up. If so I think Quincy Morgan is their #2. That way, you move Wilson to the slot and draft a WR like Stovall with their 2nd round pick.
I don't know, I think I'd like myself a lot better for resigning the somewhat proven commodity of AB a lot more than I would if I put all my hopes on 2 guys coming off major injuries. One of whom has only played in like 4 football games since he left his college campus over 2 years ago. Droughns is going into the last year of his deal as well. I know they'd like to re-sign him but his agent is still Drew Rosenhaus, so who knows how that will go. If everything goes perfectly with Droughns getting locked up for another 3-4 years with Braylon & Kellen both getting healthy and becoming the players they were thought to be on draft day, you're right. However, as a Browns fan I've grown used to the fact that usually things don't go right for them. I think it's far easier to re-sign AB for modest WR money and have a guy that you can readily expect 800-1100 yards for the next 3-4 years than to rely on 2 guys coming off injuries and a RB with a flakey agent to re-sign.Warthog wrote:Jurevicius is a Cleveland native. Hmmm.
Sorry hammb, but I am all against resigning Bryant. Look at it this way. Droughns is the #1 component of the offense. If you look at the passing game, Edwards will be your #1 option, Winslow #2. Whoever the other WR is the Browns put on the field, he is going to be the #4 option. Do you want to be paying $5 mil a season for the fourth option? Yes, they need a second WR for 2006. But come 2007 and on after Edwards and Winslow have taken over, you'd look back at signing Bryant for that kind of cash as the stupid this a GM could have done.
I like reading Pluto, and I do give think he's a good writer. I have seen that their philosophy will be to go after the big name FAs this year, but I'm still anxious to see who they get. The fact is that most years the best FAs are locked up or franchised before FA even starts, so they never really hit the market. If they can find 2-3 real studs to spend the money on, in lieu of Bryant, then fine, but I think it's just as likely that there is nobody out there to take their money.Save the dollars and invest in the defense. I think I read it here http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/col ... 853881.htm , but it looks like the Browns will be going after the BIG FAs this year. Last year they went for quantity over quality because there was such a lack of talent. Now that more of the 'role' players are in the fold, this off-season they will be looking for some real studs to spend the money on.
And in case you didn't know it, I think Terry Pluto is one of the best sportswriter around. I look forward to reading his "View from Pluto" on Sunday mornings and receiving his weekly e-mail update.
As you point out, Jurivicous has had lots of injury problems. His Seattle situation is interesting though. He was signed to be their fourth WR, behind Jackson, Koren Robinson, and Engram. K-Rob gets released, Jackson and Engram get hurt and suddenly Juricvicos is the #1 guy. never before was he more than a second or third option. That is why his numbers are better then any of his previous seasons.hammb wrote:Jurevicius would be a real good fit, he'd also fit in Cleveland, IMO. He is 31 years old, which might bring down his price some, but he had a very good year in Seattle this season and will probably make some cash. He'd be the one guy that I could see as being a better option than Bryant in this FA class. However, you want to talk about guys having big years in a contract year? He caught nearly as many passes & yards as the last 3 years combined, and had more TDs this year than those past 3 years. Injuries were a concern in some of those years, but it's not like Jurivicius has been real consistent for his career either, and his best season was this year, but not really any better than AB had this year in Cleveland (AB had more catches & more yards, JJ had more TDs, but his team was in a lot more TD opportunities). AB is also 6-7 years younger than Jurivicius. Givens would be a good alternative, as well, he's more consistent than AB, but doesn't have the upside really.
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