Give Dakich a break!

[hammb]

Not to get too footbally in the hoops forum but you don't like 2 bowl wins, a final top 25 ranking, a top 30 ranking and two recruiting classes regarded by many as being at or near the top of the MAC?

Whatever you're drinking today, I'll take a double...

Here we go into football...I gotta respond...


As for the recruiting class they may have been highly touted but we've gotten very little production out of anybody that Brandon has recruited. A couple of the OL guys look good, and Partridge is a playa. I like what we saw from Briggs at the end of last year and Devon Parks is pretty good. Winovich is an anomaly. Most all of our other big time contributors to those teams were not Brandon recruits...I like those classes on paper, and they may turn out to be good, but so far we've seen very little. That's not a fault, because most of the players Urban left us were pretty damn good.

The two bowl wins are nice, but one of those was nothing more than a fluke because of the limit of bowl eligible teams. The 2003 team was very good, but not quite as good as Miami. They were a good team, but only the Purdue game would qualify as winning a game above their heads. I still think we gave OSU that game due to poor coaching. The Miami games were what they were. The 2004 team met preseason expectations, but that was because we didn't know what we had in Omar preseason. If you would've told us in August 2004 that Omar would have one of the best seasons for a QB in NCAA history, then I think we all would've been very disappointed with the results. We managed to get outcoached in our 2 biggest games of the year and couldn't even make our conference championship game. In 2005 we were clearly the most talented team in the conference. We continued to get outcoached in big situations. Our coach made some of the worst comments I've ever heard publicly. We looked like we had no clue when we lost our star player. A senior laden team had no leadership, intensity, or heart. In each of those years our fundamentals (blocking & tackling) took a step for the worse, not to mention the downfall of STs.

I didn't say I didn't like the results of some of those seasons, I said I don't like the direction of those seasons. What I've watched with our football team (despite some heralded recruiting classes) is a team that gets worse & worse for each year they are removed from he who shall not be named. Last year was a senior laden team and they still did none of the little things it takes to win football games. I expect 2006 to be another step backwards as we lost so much off that squad. Unless I see youngsters playing & showing growth throughout the season I will be quite ready to be rid of our head football coach...I've thought for a while we'd be quite lucky to have somebody take him off our hands, but unless 2006 is way above expectations, I think our window on that one is probably long gone.

If you wish to discuss further I'd be more than willing in the football forum

Now back to bashing the basketball coach!!

[RobbyFalcon]

Yeah, that Keith McCleod and Antonio Daniels sure did suck. It's sad Dakich can't recruit.

Good point and don't we all wish those kind of players would come around more frequently.

So if DD is a good recruiter, what has he been poor at the last few years: game prep or in-game adjustments?

Go Falcons!

[Flipper]

Hammb, you are just a Brandon hating Opie basher who's rapidly developing a hard on for the demise of Dan Dakich.

I'm the ultimate Brandon sychophant and overall BGSU slappy....my glass is half full. You'r is half empty because you keep drinking it.

[jacojdm]

In 2005 we were clearly the most talented team in the country.

[hammb]

In 2005 we were clearly the most talented team in the country.

Wow that was a typo...meant conference...conference, country, same diff LOL

[commonsense]

Yeah, that Keith McCleod and Antonio Daniels sure did suck. It's sad Dakich can't recruit.

Good point and don't we all wish those kind of players would come around more frequently.

So if DD is a good recruiter, what has he been poor at the last few years: game prep or in-game adjustments?

Go Falcons!

Dan Dakich did not recruit Antonio Daniels. In fact he never even coached him. Antonio's senior year was 96-97.

[hammb]

Hammb, you are just a Brandon hating Opie basher who's rapidly developing a hard on for the demise of Dan Dakich.

I'm the ultimate Brandon sychophant and overall BGSU slappy....my glass is half full. You'r is half empty because you keep drinking it.

Because it tastes so good when it touches your lips!!!


I don't hate coach Brandon...I just think he's much better suited at OC than HC.

As for Opie bashing, let me say the guy is playing his ass off since the ball has not been in his hands as much lately. The guy is probably the best on the team at cutting towards the hoop and getting layins. He's also not made nearly as many boneheaded plays taking shots 5 feet behind the 3 pt. line with :15 on the shot clock lately. As a 2 guard the guy can definitely play in the MAC, at least offensively.

I don't want to se the demise of Dakich or any of our guys. I want them to improve and fix the problems on their squads. Unfortunately the recent trends for both of our major sports have led to my attitude. Do we still have an archive of our posts around 4 years ago? I assure you nobody was happier than me to see Dan return from WVU, and he who shall not be named was a god in my eyes.

[transfer2BGSU]

We have been the biggest chokers in the country this year, blowing games left and right because we cannot close out a game, Ball State, Akron, Northern Illinois, Ohio, you name the team, we've pretty much done it. The only close win we've had since conference play started was the 2 point squeaker against lowly EMU, and we tried everything to blow that one too. The only reason we won is because EMU gave the game away even more than we did.

You're absolutely right that Dakich has choked in all of those close losses. I have yet to see him take a damn shot during the final 3-4 minutes of any game.

I don't see one good thing that Dakich has done for this program in since 2002.

I do. How many of the players that stuck with him have graduated? I think that is a damn good indicator of a coach - the number of your players that graduate.

If I were Krebs,...

I'm soooo glad that you're not (and I apologize if that is too personal)

[clevelandfalcon]

We have been the biggest chokers in the country this year, blowing games left and right because we cannot close out a game, Ball State, Akron, Northern Illinois, Ohio, you name the team, we've pretty much done it. The only close win we've had since conference play started was the 2 point squeaker against lowly EMU, and we tried everything to blow that one too. The only reason we won is because EMU gave the game away even more than we did.

You're absolutely right that Dakich has choked in all of those close losses. I have yet to see him take a damn shot during the final 3-4 minutes of any game.

I don't see one good thing that Dakich has done for this program in since 2002.

I do. How many of the players that stuck with him have graduated? I think that is a damn good indicator of a coach - the number of your players that graduate.

If I were Krebs,...

I'm soooo glad that you're not (and I apologize if that is too personal)

Are you drinking the Kool Aid or just a Dakich relative? I can't decide....please help me out.

[Red Wing Fan]

What I remember about Laranaga was that he did some fantastic recruiting, we could beat teams like Michigan State at the beginning of the season and then by the time he got us into the middle of the MAC season - we got worse and worse. Every time somebody made a mistake, they knew they were coming out. It was hard for them to relax and play under that Pressure.

Does anyone remember that poor kid that Laranaga never played, but always brought in at the last minute and expected him to hit a 3 and win the game for him? Was his name Matt Otto? Anyway - I don't remember him ever hitting that 3 at the end of the game.

[Warthog]

My two cents

I like how Dakich uses discipline. I like that he is not afraid to yell at his players. He tells you what he thinks. He seems like the kind of guy that, if you asked him to help you to move a piano, the first thing he would ask is 'what time do you need me?'. If a player sticks with it and makes it through four years with him, that player is a much better person for having done it. He seems to prepare kids for the rest of their life, not just the next game.

On the other hand, he is very stubborn. Refuses to deviate from his style of basketball regardless of the situation or talent on the team. He has a bad hair cut. But most of all, he is a .500 coach. Nothing more, nothing less.

So, it comes down to this: Do you want a average coach who prepares young men to face the world or do you care more about having a succesful basketball team based on their record?


FWIW, Bob Huggins is still available.

[Red Wing Fan]

How about like the Women's team????? Prepared for the future, not leaving the program, and know how to WIN. Is that asking too much???
Apparently not, Coach Miller and his staff have figured out how to do it.
Thank God for the Women's team - or this would really be a long, cold winter.

[98_BG_GRAD]

I guess I'll throw my two cents in. I think Dakich is a very, very good game coach. He is a great coach to represent the university and the community. What concerns me, at this point, is that the program is not getting any better. It seems the program has been stuck in a rut the last couple years....finish in the middle of the pack in the regular season, win a MAC tournament game and then lose at the Gund. I don't see that there is much promise for the future the way things have gone. With that being said, I don't think Dakich should be fired. I think he has the ability to bring the program back to the top of the MAC. Every program will have down years, so I think DD should be given the opportunity to win again and get this program to the NCAA tournament for the first time in forever. If he doesn't do it within 3-4 years, then I think Mr. Krebs or whoever is leading the athletic department, should look elsewhere for a coach. I also think DD would be crazy not to jump at another opportunity if it arises, even if it is at another mid-major. There would likely be more money, more conference tournament bids and much larger crowds to play in front of! I just hope that if he is looking at other jobs he is not telling us, the fans, that he is committed to BG and is not interested in leaving (see Urban Meyer).

I was never a big fan of Jim L. I thought he was a terrible game coach and he was not well liked within the community. He brought in some great players and the '97 team with AD, Jay L, Stacey and others was the best team in the MAC (and probably one of the best in BG history) and they couldn't even get to the MAC title game. It was Coach L's time to go.

[clevelandfalcon]

I guess I'll throw my two cents in. I think Dakich is a very, very good game coach. He is a great coach to represent the university and the community. What concerns me, at this point, is that the program is not getting any better. It seems the program has been stuck in a rut the last couple years....finish in the middle of the pack in the regular season, win a MAC tournament game and then lose at the Gund. I don't see that there is much promise for the future the way things have gone. With that being said, I don't think Dakich should be fired. I think he has the ability to bring the program back to the top of the MAC. Every program will have down years, so I think DD should be given the opportunity to win again and get this program to the NCAA tournament for the first time in forever. If he doesn't do it within 3-4 years, then I think Mr. Krebs or whoever is leading the athletic department, should look elsewhere for a coach. I also think DD would be crazy not to jump at another opportunity if it arises, even if it is at another mid-major. There would likely be more money, more conference tournament bids and much larger crowds to play in front of! I just hope that if he is looking at other jobs he is not telling us, the fans, that he is committed to BG and is not interested in leaving (see Urban Meyer).

I was never a big fan of Jim L. I thought he was a terrible game coach and he was not well liked within the community. He brought in some great players and the '97 team with AD, Jay L, Stacey and others was the best team in the MAC (and probably one of the best in BG history) and they couldn't even get to the MAC title game. It was Coach L's time to go.

Well said. The fact that they don't seem to be improving and the lack of talented players in the program is why I think a change is needed. The past few seasons I am just not seeing the talent that a mid-major D1 school should have.

And the fact that they graduate players is great, however, isn't that expected? Kind of like when Chris Rock did a stand-up routine about men who say they "take care of their kids!" "YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR KIDS!"

[transfer2BGSU]

Are you drinking the Kool Aid or just a Dakich relative? I can't decide....please help me out.

C'mon, you gotta' tell me what part you disagree with if you don't like the comment.

But to answer your question - neither. I don't much like Kool Aid and Dakich is no relation.