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OSUFALCON wrote:Next year will be a up year! The questions is how much of an up? I think we could win 17-18 games. Akron will be real tough next year. I think we could beat most of the rest of the league next year. Half Full Thoughts versus half empty.
Well, I look at next year, I see that most everybody will be back, with Floyd, Wright (assuming he stays), and Samarco being strong perimeter players, and Marschall hopefully becoming a strong presence in the post. Beyond that, its pretty much a mystery because we haven't seen consistent production from any of other guys. If those 4 aforementioned players play strong next season that will make us good enough to beat out Fuffalo, Ohio, and maybe Miami in the East, we'll still have to contend with Kent and Akron. Nobody from the west division scares me, so if things break right we could be in line for a top 4 spot in the conference. However, a lot of things have to go right for that to happen. We don't know if Lefeld is even going to be able to play next year with his foot problems, Soler hasn't proven himself to be a consistent player yet, we don't know if Moten or Moon are going to be solid players in this league, and we don't know if Dan Dakich is still the coach that he was 4 or 5 years ago. Hopefully, the answers to most of these questions will be favorable and the team will make a comeback to respectability.

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svillefalcon wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:
OSUFALCON wrote:Next year will be a up year! The questions is how much of an up? I think we could win 17-18 games. Akron will be real tough next year. I think we could beat most of the rest of the league next year. Half Full Thoughts versus half empty.
Well, I look at next year, I see that most everybody will be back, with Floyd, Wright (assuming he stays), and Samarco being strong perimeter players, and Marschall hopefully becoming a strong presence in the post. Beyond that, its pretty much a mystery because we haven't seen consistent production from any of other guys. If those 4 aforementioned players play strong next season that will make us good enough to beat out Fuffalo, Ohio, and maybe Miami in the East, we'll still have to contend with Kent and Akron. Nobody from the west division scares me, so if things break right we could be in line for a top 4 spot in the conference. However, a lot of things have to go right for that to happen. We don't know if Lefeld is even going to be able to play next year with his foot problems, Soler hasn't proven himself to be a consistent player yet, we don't know if Moten or Moon are going to be solid players in this league, and we don't know if Dan Dakich is still the coach that he was 4 or 5 years ago. Hopefully, the answers to most of these questions will be favorable and the team will make a comeback to respectability.

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Well there goes my prediction for next season. We end up losing Stephen Wright because Dakich is a loser :x
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:Well there goes my prediction for next season. We end up losing Stephen Wright because Dakich is a loser :x
Dude, enough with the namecalling. You are completely immature, and if all you can do is call people names, then yes, you have no business being here until you grow up a bit. I'm sorry, but I'm getting really sick of 18 year old schmucks like you who think they know everything about basketball and take it upon themselves to deem Dakich a "loser."

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bgsufalcon24 wrote:Well there goes my prediction for next season. We end up losing Stephen Wright because Dakich is a loser :x
Dude, enough with the namecalling. You are completely immature, and if all you can do is call people names, then yes, you have no business being here until you grow up a bit. I'm sorry, but I'm getting really sick of 18 year old schmucks like you who think they know everything about basketball and take it upon themselves to deem Dakich a "loser."

Grow up.
Bleeding Orange, this is the 2nd time you've personally taken a shot at me. I don't know why you are doing that, but let me see... I'm immature? Sure I'm immature, I'm young and thus supposed to be immature. I personally think acting your age is overrated anyway. But as for your comment about 18-year old schmucks like me, uh, NEWSFLASH, its 18-year old schmucks like me who are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University. These people are going to see a team that's 9-17 and is hit hard with people leaving the program (last evidenced today), and for better or for worse they going to make several conclusions. One conclusion that is readily discernable is that the team sucks. We don't have the talent that other schools in the MAC are putting on the court, and because of that, we lose games. These 18-year old schmucks you speak of, they don't care about all the things that go into coaching, or practice, or any of that nonsense. What students on this campus today care about is wins and losses, and maybe a little bit about whether the students are getting an education. That's it. They don't delve deep into the semantics of why Coach Dakich can't get it done, they only care that he isn't doing the job. And when the head coach doesn't recruit good players, the players can't win, the team stinks, etc etc, nobody goes to the games. Nobody is going to go to that craphole Anderson Arena to watch a losing team. Oh, and we don't give a crap about disrespecting the coach by calling him out on his poor perfomance. Geez, I called Dakich a loser based on the team's complete and total collapse this season, which is the truth of the matter. Why can't you call a spade a spade like the rest of us 18-year old schmucks?

By the way, I'm 19, not 18.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote: its 18-year old schmucks like me who are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University.

That's unfortunate...
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Tricky_Falcon wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote: its 18-year old schmucks like me who are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University.

That's unfortunate...
Its the reality of the situation. Deal with it.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:
Tricky_Falcon wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote: its 18-year old schmucks like me who are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University.

That's unfortunate...
Its the reality of the situation. Deal with it.
There are plenty of people on here, and thousands more who AREN'T on here that have been the past, are the present and will be the future lifeblood of BGSU just as much or more than this year's freshman class. We're a family here, chill with the attitude.
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First of all, calling coach a loser might be the most disrespectful thing that I've seen on here today. It's one thing to call one of us name, but to call a coach that gives his all to the university a loser, that crosses the line of stupidity. If you think that you are the lifeblood of the university, then you are sadly mistaken. You are only one of thousands of kids that attend BG, and I'm sure most of them wouldn't come on here and call coach a loser. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that are active on campus and do things that are productive. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that support their university, and don't get into namecalling of employees that have worked and given much more than you to the university. The lifeblood of the university is not you sir, the lifeblood of the university may be from the 18-22 yr. old individual, but the schmucks of the bunch are not the LIFEBLOOD of the university. I'm sure that there are a lot of people on this board that gave way much more time to the university than you do, and that is the lifeblood of the university. You give me a list of your accomplishments so far, and I will tell you if you qualify as part of that group. I respect that you aren't happy with the way the program is going right now. I remember being unhappy with the way the football team was playing, and unhappy with Coach Blackney with the performance. But I did not call him names, and I was at every game while I was there. That is the lifeblood. People that bleed orange and brown and love the school and programs, good or bad, that is the lifeblood.
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TG1996 wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote:
Tricky_Falcon wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote: its 18-year old schmucks like me who are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University.

That's unfortunate...
Its the reality of the situation. Deal with it.
There are plenty of people on here, and thousands more who AREN'T on here that have been the past, are the present and will be the future lifeblood of BGSU just as much or more than this year's freshman class. We're a family here, chill with the attitude.

this is true...we are a friggin family...a friggin falcon family...aliteration aside we need to come together in this dark time in BGSU basketball...not fight over all this crap
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HoustonFalcon wrote:First of all, calling coach a loser might be the most disrespectful thing that I've seen on here today. It's one thing to call one of us name, but to call a coach that gives his all to the university a loser, that crosses the line of stupidity. If you think that you are the lifeblood of the university, then you are sadly mistaken. You are only one of thousands of kids that attend BG, and I'm sure most of them wouldn't come on here and call coach a loser. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that are active on campus and do things that are productive. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that support their university, and don't get into namecalling of employees that have worked and given much more than you to the university. The lifeblood of the university is not you sir, the lifeblood of the university may be from the 18-22 yr. old individual, but the schmucks of the bunch are not the LIFEBLOOD of the university. I'm sure that there are a lot of people on this board that gave way much more time to the university than you do, and that is the lifeblood of the university. You give me a list of your accomplishments so far, and I will tell you if you qualify as part of that group. I respect that you aren't happy with the way the program is going right now. I remember being unhappy with the way the football team was playing, and unhappy with Coach Blackney with the performance. But I did not call him names, and I was at every game while I was there. That is the lifeblood. People that bleed orange and brown and love the school and programs, good or bad, that is the lifeblood.
I am absolutely in shock. I say one thing about coach Dakich, and everybody goes crazy. I'm beginning to agree with clevelandfalcon, this site is a no-criticism zone. The minute you say something negative about anybody, you got 3 people coming after you. Are there people at BG who have given more to this university than I have, sure there are. But for you to come out and differentiate people inside the student body of Bowling Green who are man enough to speak their mind about our athletic programs and the individuals that make them up, as schmucks, that does it. I am absolutely sick of the treatment that I have recieved on this site simply because I am calling a spade a spade when I say that the basketball team stinks and coach Dakich is doing a terrible job. You honestly don't think that people in the BG student body would say disrespectful things about faculty, staff, the people who run this university and our athletic teams? Get a clue pal, that happens every day, every hour of every day. Because I am one that is saying this, am I less of a fan even though I went to almost all the hockey and football games, and most of the women's B-ball games this season? No. I love how I have to think that everybody is great and that everything is all fine and dandy to get any type of respect on here. Whatever happened to critical thinking/evaluation? (BTW, that was the first class I took here at BG fall semester, so don't get me started)

By the way, did I EVER say that I was the lifeblood of BG?!! Not even close, so shut your trap. When I made that statement I was referring to the 4,653 students who came into BG fall semester, and for you to misconstrue this statement into a gain for your own little argument is nothing but a blatant ambiguity.
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It's not that you have to always be positive. It's the way in which you're negative that sets people off. Alot of people are well beyond upset at the way the men's team has fared this year and the reasons why they've fared that way. You seem to be the only one to REPEATEDLY drop the now-tired line "the men's team sucks". Others may say it on occasion, or voice their displeasure ten times a day, seven days a week, but they do it with a touch more class and usually back it up with some reason.
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Look, I'm not the one that first used the term schmuck. I didn't say that you couldn't disagree with the way things were run. I disagreed plenty of times with the way things were handled while I was there. But did I resort to namecalling to get my point across, no. It's one thing to say that something is stupid or a loser idea, but to call someone stupid or a loser, that is a different matter all together. Calling a spade a spade is not calling coach a loser. That sir, you said, not I. I believe I used namecalling of the people that are just trying to do their jobs to the best of their abilities as my reason for being upset with your statement. I didn't say because you were criticizing our coach. Don't tell me to get a clue, I already have one. I know that you are not the lifeblood of the university. The school will go out and recruit more kids to come to the university, and you will be gone after you get your degree. That's the reality of the situation. I work with kids like you everyday in my profession. How would you react if coach were to come out and say that these loser students don't want to come out and support our team, just because we are having a down season. From my understanding of the situation, the students haven't really been out all year, that would include the beginning of the season. If I'm wrong, than I apologize. But to have 1035 at the first game, 1545 at the second home game, and then 1605 at the third home game when students were still around that is pretty bad. That isn't even giving the team a chance. Great, we had 3285 at the Toledo game. But then we drop back off again to "normal" levels.
I used the example of my time and the football team for one reason only. I put in that statement that I wasn't happy with the way things were going, but that I still showed up every game. I didn't make it an excuse to not show up. You have every right to criticize how things are going, but it's the way in which you put it. I'm calling a spade a spade here when I say that you were disrespectful calling him a loser. Tell me that you think isn't a good coach, that's fine. But it's not being a "man" calling him a loser on a message board. Say it to his face, and then you are man. I love what BG stands for, and I love that fact that people can disagree on different things. That is what is great about college, but don't throw namecalling of that work for the university into the mix. I am becoming a broken record with this post, so I'll stop now.
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Shut my trap? Come on man. You are the one who said that you and those like you are the lifeblood of the university. And if I were a student of the university, I would be upset that you are putting them into a category with you. They aren't the ones that called coach a loser that started this whole thing discussion. You are. "It's the 18 yr. old shmucks, LIKE ME, that are the present and future lifeblood of Bowling Green State University". That is your quote, not me misconstruing anything.
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bgsufalcon24 wrote:
HoustonFalcon wrote:First of all, calling coach a loser might be the most disrespectful thing that I've seen on here today. It's one thing to call one of us name, but to call a coach that gives his all to the university a loser, that crosses the line of stupidity. If you think that you are the lifeblood of the university, then you are sadly mistaken. You are only one of thousands of kids that attend BG, and I'm sure most of them wouldn't come on here and call coach a loser. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that are active on campus and do things that are productive. The lifeblood of the university are the kids that support their university, and don't get into namecalling of employees that have worked and given much more than you to the university. The lifeblood of the university is not you sir, the lifeblood of the university may be from the 18-22 yr. old individual, but the schmucks of the bunch are not the LIFEBLOOD of the university. I'm sure that there are a lot of people on this board that gave way much more time to the university than you do, and that is the lifeblood of the university. You give me a list of your accomplishments so far, and I will tell you if you qualify as part of that group. I respect that you aren't happy with the way the program is going right now. I remember being unhappy with the way the football team was playing, and unhappy with Coach Blackney with the performance. But I did not call him names, and I was at every game while I was there. That is the lifeblood. People that bleed orange and brown and love the school and programs, good or bad, that is the lifeblood.
I am absolutely in shock. I say one thing about coach Dakich, and everybody goes crazy. I'm beginning to agree with clevelandfalcon, this site is a no-criticism zone. The minute you say something negative about anybody, you got 3 people coming after you. Are there people at BG who have given more to this university than I have, sure there are. But for you to come out and differentiate people inside the student body of Bowling Green who are man enough to speak their mind about our athletic programs and the individuals that make them up, as schmucks, that does it. I am absolutely sick of the treatment that I have recieved on this site simply because I am calling a spade a spade when I say that the basketball team stinks and coach Dakich is doing a terrible job. You honestly don't think that people in the BG student body would say disrespectful things about faculty, staff, the people who run this university and our athletic teams? Get a clue pal, that happens every day, every hour of every day. Because I am one that is saying this, am I less of a fan even though I went to almost all the hockey and football games, and most of the women's B-ball games this season? No. I love how I have to think that everybody is great and that everything is all fine and dandy to get any type of respect on here. Whatever happened to critical thinking/evaluation? (BTW, that was the first class I took here at BG fall semester, so don't get me started)

By the way, did I EVER say that I was the lifeblood of BG?!! Not even close, so shut your trap. When I made that statement I was referring to the 4,653 students who came into BG fall semester, and for you to misconstrue this statement into a gain for your own little argument is nothing but a blatant ambiguity.
You need to learn some manners, son.

I realize that you are young, but you need to realize that there are many, many more who have come before you and experienced the same things that you are experiencing. For you to sit here and say that people calling faculty and staff members names is "reality" and that we should just accpet it is beyond your common offense.

Bottom line - the world does not revolve around you, and you have no idea what reality is. Yet. I am confident, based on my experience at BGSU, that the education you will recieve over the next few years will teach you what reality is, but until that time, don't go insulting others who think you are out of line simply because you are unwilling to review and question your own actions.

And yes, I have come after you once before. I explained to you why, and I did so in a constructive manner. It is clear, though, that you simply don't give a sh!t what other people think about your opinion right now, because your candor has not only not improved, but in many ways grown more egregious.

It is fine that you are disappointed with this season. Newsflash: SO IS EVERYONE ELSE, even the people that are trying to be "positive." There is no denying that. Your problem is that you make no effort whatsoever to make constructive criticisms. You want to talk about ambiguities? Every statement you have made in the past two days has been filled with ambiguous rage. Why are you angry? Is it the transfers? Is it the fact that we can't win close games? Is it the mysterious bald spot on Coach D's head? Is it all of the above? No one knows, because your comments have largely been restricted to simply saying that you are angry, and have devolved into calling the coach a loser.

You commented a couple of days ago that you felt as though people were trying to drive you away from this board. If you continue to show that you are unwilling to change your attitude and show a complete lack of respect for anyone or anything besides your own opinion, perhaps your paranoia isn't completely unfounded...
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