Hockey game official limits free speech

BGFan · Post by **BGFan** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:42 am

pdt1081 wrote:
BGSU Crazy Fan 58 wrote:Hey the kid who started the booing of O'neil would be me. I tried to start it on it Friday but he scored about 3 minutes into the game so I didn't see a point to continue. I yelled out to whoever would listen on saturday to boo him everytime he touched th puck and it caught on pretty well. I think giving the finger to the opposing team or player is wrong.........unless an oppossing player does soemthing to warrant it, but that is rare.
How about Greene or Ganzak Thursday night? They're two of the top D-Men in the league. Might be a good thing to try and get in there heads. Also remember that Miami has two of the best goaltenders in the country this year. Anything for them would be a great help.

These types of things are EXACTLY what the student section should be concentrating on. You wouldn't believe how much it gets into the heads of the players. Especially the goalies. We would get them so rattled that the puck would be behind them before they even knew what was going on. Keep it up!

svillefalcon · Post by **svillefalcon** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:58 am

i would like to add that i was almost kicked out of the UM game for flipping scUM the bird...the only way for fans to be intimidating when opposing teams anymore, sadly, is to cuss at them...teams arent intimidated by a fan tell them that they "stink" they get intimidated by vulgar and cuss words, sad, but true

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:23 am

svillefalcon wrote:...the only way for fans to be intimidating when opposing teams anymore, sadly, is to cuss at them...teams arent intimidated by a fan tell them that they "stink" they get intimidated by vulgar and cuss words, sad, but true

Ummmmmm..... bullshit?

Thing is, do you HONESTLY believe that players haven't repeatedly heard f-bombs and such, enough to let them roll off their backs? Please. For the thousandth time, I'm not trying to go holier-than-thou here, but yelling obscenities and flipping players off isn't a necessity, it's a sign of laziness! Why chant something creative when a "Hey! F-YOU!" will make your friends giggle and make you look cool? And if you think a guy bringing the puck up the ice is going to be shocked into a turnover by someone flipping him off from 10 rows back, you're probably mistaken there, too.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:28 am

In my opinion, the "It's all your fault" chant may be the greatest ever.

SaxyIrishTenor · Post by **SaxyIrishTenor** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:35 am

BGDrew wrote:In my opinion, the "It's all your fault" chant may be the greatest ever.

It's so mean, but I agree. I love the third goal when we chant it.

McConvey · Post by **McConvey** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:44 am

Christ, chanting the goalie's name over and over gets under his skin better than flipping him off.

Think about it: is the goalie looking into the stands to see some schmuck halfway up the arena flipping him off? NO! But a nice, rhythmic chant of his name over and over can be heard, even when he's concentrating on the play.

Admittedly this works better if he's got a name that rolls off the tongue. Crawford-West probably wasn't as effective a chant as say, Ellis.

Best cheer I've ever heard (and I heard this one second hand, I wasn't there). A long time ago Cornell was playing... somebody. Say Colgate for the sake of argument. And Colgate's goalie wasn't the brightest of students. In fact, he was barely elligible.
The cheer: "Gimme an X! [X!!] Gimme a C! [C!!] Gimme a V! Gimme a E! Gimme an O! Gimme a Q! Gimme a B! What's that spell?" [answer back] "I DUNNO!!!! PLAY GOAL FOR COLGATE!"

Not one curse word.

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:35 pm

Here we go again

The audile chants that can be heard and are different work the best. A slew of cuss words that players themselves use on and off the ice will not bother them. That's as normal as waking up everyday to them. When players are on the ice during play, they shouldn't be looking in the crowd (I say shouldn't because, well...). There's only one thing in the crowd that might distract them, but I'll leave that to your imagination. And no, it isn't your middle finger

Other chants that work are doing a "play-by-play" of the goalie's actions after the whistle. Spratt always skates over to the boards. Yelling for every stride they take (skate, skate, skate, tuuuuuuurrrrrrrnnnnnn), and every time the hit they post with their stick works very well. Some will even catch on and try to turn it into a game for them. When that happens they no longer have their head in the game and you have successfully helped your team.

The only time I have ever seen "the bird" get to a player was the second OSU game in BG this year. The OSU player ended up in our corner after diving to stop the empty net goal. The kid next to me stuck his middle finger up right at the top of the boards. The player went to stand up and it was right in his face. He punched the glass and skated to the bench. Had it not been the last minute of a game they were losing, there would have been no reaction out of the player.

transfer2BGSU · Post by **transfer2BGSU** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:38 pm

TG1996 wrote:Thing is, do you HONESTLY believe that players haven't repeatedly heard f-bombs and such, enough to let them roll off their backs? Please. For the thousandth time, I'm not trying to go holier-than-thou here, but yelling obscenities and flipping players off isn't a necessity, it's a sign of laziness! Why chant something creative when a "Hey! F-YOU!" will make your friends giggle and make you look cool? And if you think a guy bringing the puck up the ice is going to be shocked into a turnover by someone flipping him off from 10 rows back, you're probably mistaken there, too.

OH NO

Not again :coo-coo:

:shrug: Once again, I'm agreeing with Tony

pdt1081 wrote: There's only one thing in the crowd that might distract them, but I'll leave that to your imagination. And no, it isn't your middle finger

Hey Saxy..........

**ducking**

SaxyIrishTenor · Post by **SaxyIrishTenor** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:41 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:

pdt1081 wrote: There's only one thing in the crowd that might distract them, but I'll leave that to your imagination. And no, it isn't your middle finger
Hey Saxy..........

**ducking**

Two questions...

1) What are you talking about?

2) How would you know?

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:43 pm

Gives a cleared definition to "put 'em on the glass" I suppose.

FindlayFalcon · Post by **FindlayFalcon** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:22 pm

I agree that flipping the bird or one or two people letting the F word fly at a player isn't going to work. But when the entire section E crowd booed at O'Neill everytime he touched the puck the other night--that worked!! It even spread to other parts of the arena and when Section E stopped doing it, other sections were. No cussing, no flipping, just good natured booing. I thought it was great. Also, saying Wallace's name everytime he touched the puck got his attention. Those are the things that are going to get under a player's skin.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:30 pm

BGFan wrote:
pdt1081 wrote:
BGSU Crazy Fan 58 wrote:Hey the kid who started the booing of O'neil would be me. I tried to start it on it Friday but he scored about 3 minutes into the game so I didn't see a point to continue. I yelled out to whoever would listen on saturday to boo him everytime he touched th puck and it caught on pretty well. I think giving the finger to the opposing team or player is wrong.........unless an oppossing player does soemthing to warrant it, but that is rare.
How about Greene or Ganzak Thursday night? They're two of the top D-Men in the league. Might be a good thing to try and get in there heads. Also remember that Miami has two of the best goaltenders in the country this year. Anything for them would be a great help.
These types of things are EXACTLY what the student section should be concentrating on. You wouldn't believe how much it gets into the heads of the players. Especially the goalies. We would get them so rattled that the puck would be behind them before they even knew what was going on. Keep it up!

WHAT HE SAID!!

Keep up that kind of stuff...It gets under their skin, gets their focus off the game and gives us an advantage!!! THIS is the reason that playing in our barn was why opposing teams hated coming here!! GREAT WORK, '58!!!

GO FALCONS!!
SWEEP THE REDSKINHAWTHINGS!!!!

rc_ziggy84 · Post by **rc_ziggy84** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:33 am

pdt1081 wrote:
BGFan wrote:[
The booing everytime one the the ND players touched the puck Saturday night was a good example of what can be done that is effective, funny, and not objectionable. More stuff like that and less crudeness will go a long way.
That was the funniest thing I have seen/heard at a game in a long time, if not ever. Props to whoever started that.

I'll take those props, thanks

rc_ziggy84 · Post by **rc_ziggy84** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:37 am

Falcon Fanatic wrote:
BGFan wrote:
pdt1081 wrote:
BGSU Crazy Fan 58 wrote:Hey the kid who started the booing of O'neil would be me. I tried to start it on it Friday but he scored about 3 minutes into the game so I didn't see a point to continue. I yelled out to whoever would listen on saturday to boo him everytime he touched th puck and it caught on pretty well. I think giving the finger to the opposing team or player is wrong.........unless an oppossing player does soemthing to warrant it, but that is rare.
How about Greene or Ganzak Thursday night? They're two of the top D-Men in the league. Might be a good thing to try and get in there heads. Also remember that Miami has two of the best goaltenders in the country this year. Anything for them would be a great help.
These types of things are EXACTLY what the student section should be concentrating on. You wouldn't believe how much it gets into the heads of the players. Especially the goalies. We would get them so rattled that the puck would be behind them before they even knew what was going on. Keep it up!
WHAT HE SAID!!

Keep up that kind of stuff...It gets under their skin, gets their focus off the game and gives us an advantage!!! THIS is the reason that playing in our barn was why opposing teams hated coming here!! GREAT WORK, '58!!!

GO FALCONS!!
SWEEP THE REDSKINHAWTHINGS!!!!

Notice that O'Neill (who was usually out there for the PP) never got one quality shot off. Here's how it usually went...

~O'Neill gets the puck
~BOOOOOOOO!!
~O'Neill passes the puck

If you don't think that it didn't work, then pay more attention. I'd hope to see more things like this. The random chanting of "Wallace" worked too.

BGFan · Post by **BGFan** » Thu Feb 23, 2006 9:52 am

There's a reason the military has a PsyOps division. Getting into their heads is always more effective than simply flinging insults and foul language towards them. It's taken a while but, maybe, just maybe, the student section is starting to see the light. It's a hell of a lot funner when you can see that what you're doing is having an effect. It's also much more acceptable to the rest of the crowd and, believe it or not, a good portion of the crowd may even take part, making it even more imposing.