During the game, our goalies race to the bench on delayed calls.
At the end of the Miami game, Spratt was pulled with 1:55 left. There was a stoppage of play, and the faceoff was in Miami's defensive end. It made sense to have an extra man on offense when we were that close to their goal. BG has allowed very few empty net goals over the past several years.
Showed a lot of don't-give-up when the guys responded to the empty-netter by scoring back with just a little under a minute to go.
On a side note, Miami really had a nice Seniors' Night, and other ceremonies concerning the last regular seaspon game at Goggin. Before the game, students were lined up more than an hour before doors opened (remember those days?), and Miami football players were going back through the line, passing out cookies.
I planned to buy Goggin pucks for me and some friends who couldn't make it down, but they were sold out (sorry, guys). Everyone at the game got a souvenir - a laminated thing with historical Goggin game pictures over the years on one side, and Miami vs. BG on the other, on a red lanyard.
Fans were lined up 4 deep around the glass. All BG fans sporting colors were warmly greeted as we made our way to our seats.
Evaluating BG hockey
We were in the fourth row behind the Miami Bench.
I been to a fair number of games at Goggin and your right that you want to get there earlier, but this year has been different. Normally getting to the game 45 minutes before-hand gave you time to get a seat. Miami hockey has not had a large following until near the end of the Gwozdecky era and when Mazzoleni came (1992-94)- IMHO.
Even with the increase of Hockey fans at Miami, their fans don't seem to travel. I have been to the Lefty McFadden tournament here in Dayton 3 of the 4 years. Attendance is very low...... this year - 2,786 at the North Dakota game and 1,787 at the Wayne State game. The tournament is played at the Nutter Center, which seats about 10,000. There were a TON of North Dakota fans in Dayton.
I don't if that says alot about Miami hockey fans or more about Dayton hockey fans, but the Nutter Center is very central and is very accessbile. And there are a LOT of Miami graduates in the Dayton area. Plus they sell beer at the Nutter. I am not sure if the University even gets a bus for students who want to attend.
But I have a whole rant about Miami Hockey fans who absolutely don't know the history of their own (doormat of a) program. And I try to be a good Miami fan when they aren't playing BG....... I know someone who played at Miami and he don't even know they were ranked this year!!!!! And he was/is active in youth hockey. But maybe thats due to all the hits he took from guys like Morrow and Wells.
I been to a fair number of games at Goggin and your right that you want to get there earlier, but this year has been different. Normally getting to the game 45 minutes before-hand gave you time to get a seat. Miami hockey has not had a large following until near the end of the Gwozdecky era and when Mazzoleni came (1992-94)- IMHO.
Even with the increase of Hockey fans at Miami, their fans don't seem to travel. I have been to the Lefty McFadden tournament here in Dayton 3 of the 4 years. Attendance is very low...... this year - 2,786 at the North Dakota game and 1,787 at the Wayne State game. The tournament is played at the Nutter Center, which seats about 10,000. There were a TON of North Dakota fans in Dayton.
I don't if that says alot about Miami hockey fans or more about Dayton hockey fans, but the Nutter Center is very central and is very accessbile. And there are a LOT of Miami graduates in the Dayton area. Plus they sell beer at the Nutter. I am not sure if the University even gets a bus for students who want to attend.
But I have a whole rant about Miami Hockey fans who absolutely don't know the history of their own (doormat of a) program. And I try to be a good Miami fan when they aren't playing BG....... I know someone who played at Miami and he don't even know they were ranked this year!!!!! And he was/is active in youth hockey. But maybe thats due to all the hits he took from guys like Morrow and Wells.
Not to mention that when listening on the radio you couldn't tell if BG was playing at Miami or at scUMTech83 wrote:We were in the fourth row behind the Miami Bench.
I been to a fair number of games at Goggin and your right that you want to get there earlier, but this year has been different. Normally getting to the game 45 minutes before-hand gave you time to get a seat. Miami hockey has not had a large following until near the end of the Gwozdecky era and when Mazzoleni came (1992-94)- IMHO.
Even with the increase of Hockey fans at Miami, their fans don't seem to travel. I have been to the Lefty McFadden tournament here in Dayton 3 of the 4 years. Attendance is very low...... this year - 2,786 at the North Dakota game and 1,787 at the Wayne State game. The tournament is played at the Nutter Center, which seats about 10,000. There were a TON of North Dakota fans in Dayton.
I don't if that says alot about Miami hockey fans or more about Dayton hockey fans, but the Nutter Center is very central and is very accessbile. And there are a LOT of Miami graduates in the Dayton area. Plus they sell beer at the Nutter. I am not sure if the University even gets a bus for students who want to attend.
But I have a whole rant about Miami Hockey fans who absolutely don't know the history of their own (doormat of a) program. And I try to be a good Miami fan when they aren't playing BG....... I know someone who played at Miami and he don't even know they were ranked this year!!!!! And he was/is active in youth hockey. But maybe thats due to all the hits he took from guys like Morrow and Wells.
Phi or Die
i agree, the um chants are lame. we need to come up with something original...i've taken it upon myself to deliver.
you're right, most miami fans don't know the program's doormat history, but over the past 12-13 years, we've been competitive with two reg season titles and at least two or three second place finishes (we all remember one of those when bg came to goggin and upset us in the first round of the playoffs). but, there are hardcore fans like myself who know the history of not only miami, but bg, too. frankly, you guys don't do enough to talk about the fact that you guys had a dominant program and won a national title!
sooner or later you have to turn it around. too much history and tradition to continue to accept last place finishes. it's been a rough decade plus now.
you're right, most miami fans don't know the program's doormat history, but over the past 12-13 years, we've been competitive with two reg season titles and at least two or three second place finishes (we all remember one of those when bg came to goggin and upset us in the first round of the playoffs). but, there are hardcore fans like myself who know the history of not only miami, but bg, too. frankly, you guys don't do enough to talk about the fact that you guys had a dominant program and won a national title!
sooner or later you have to turn it around. too much history and tradition to continue to accept last place finishes. it's been a rough decade plus now.
Miami University: 2009-10 CCHA Regular Season Champions
Redhawk95 - Having read your posts, you know your Miami Sports and Hockey. It fans like you that make me happy to be a Redhawk fan and Alumni (M Arch 86). Okay.... I really feel more like a Redskin
Since the arrival of Gwozdecky, Miami Hockey has been on the rise. The best move was bring Biasi back to Mother Miami. I have been very excited about our chances and the further development of the program.
As I have posted many times before, I really think that Biasi and Paluch will bring both Programs to the top of the CCHA. BG is just a few years behind Miami. And Miami had some trouble with the Falcons this weekend compared to the Thanksgiving games. So BG is headed in the right direction.
Now I want to see Miami get themselves to the Frozen Four and hopefully to the Championship game and National Title. It would be great to be at the New Goggin for the Ice Breaker Tourney and to watch them raise a National Championshop Banner to the rafters. But Miami will have to get a good draw in the NCAA's. I am worried about those teams and coaches who have been there many times and should be there this year, in particularly Jerry York....... who of course can walk on (frozen) water. I won't let BC's #8 ranking fool me.
I am going to order my tickets for the Ice Breaker this week. The dedication game against Gwozdecky and Denver will be exciting. Can the Student beat the Master.
Since the arrival of Gwozdecky, Miami Hockey has been on the rise. The best move was bring Biasi back to Mother Miami. I have been very excited about our chances and the further development of the program.
As I have posted many times before, I really think that Biasi and Paluch will bring both Programs to the top of the CCHA. BG is just a few years behind Miami. And Miami had some trouble with the Falcons this weekend compared to the Thanksgiving games. So BG is headed in the right direction.
Now I want to see Miami get themselves to the Frozen Four and hopefully to the Championship game and National Title. It would be great to be at the New Goggin for the Ice Breaker Tourney and to watch them raise a National Championshop Banner to the rafters. But Miami will have to get a good draw in the NCAA's. I am worried about those teams and coaches who have been there many times and should be there this year, in particularly Jerry York....... who of course can walk on (frozen) water. I won't let BC's #8 ranking fool me.
I am going to order my tickets for the Ice Breaker this week. The dedication game against Gwozdecky and Denver will be exciting. Can the Student beat the Master.
Re: Evaluating BG hockey
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Originally posted by dannyk:
Before some of you instantly start up the flame throwers here is a question.
It has been said on this forum for the last few years and often recently that we are doing a great job of recruiting, and that this program will return to the top of the ccha and the ncaa tournament.
While I agree our recruiting is decent I think we are recruiting more offensive minded players compared to what Buddy Powers brought in. It is more fun to watch a wide open game, the loss doesnt seem as bad because of all the action.
I hope I am wrong but I do not see BG going to the NCAA tournament in the next 3 or 4 years. Our goal production is up but we are also near last in all of all of college hockey in goals against.
Sometimes it seems that things under Pooch seem better becuase we lose games 5-3 instead of 2-0 under Powers.
It is good to be optimistic and I think this team can finish around 7th next year but this year we thought the top 4 was possible. Every team in the nation thinks next year will be better. How long is it possible to just live on next year for a program.
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Dannyk,
You were concerned that people would take flame throwers to you.
It appeared that you were attemping to poss a question as to your concern for the future of BGSU Hockey. After reading the responses, it would appear that no one wishes to answer your concerns.
You have deep concerns, I have deep concerns. Where has BG finished in the league over the last 9 seasons?
Dannyk you possed a question, as a loyal BG Hockey fan I have a question. As hockey fans we have allegiances to:
BGSU-the Admin Bldg, Founders, Eva Marie Saint, Tim Coway and Dave Waddle
The BGSU Hockey program- Jack Vivian, Ken Morrow, Rob Blake, Jamie Wansbourgh. 1978, 1984, 1995
The Coaching Staff- Scott, Ron, Jamie
The Team Members- Sitko, Svendsen, Spratt et al
I ask the readers for their input. Where do your allegiances lie?
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Originally posted by dannyk:
Before some of you instantly start up the flame throwers here is a question.
It has been said on this forum for the last few years and often recently that we are doing a great job of recruiting, and that this program will return to the top of the ccha and the ncaa tournament.
While I agree our recruiting is decent I think we are recruiting more offensive minded players compared to what Buddy Powers brought in. It is more fun to watch a wide open game, the loss doesnt seem as bad because of all the action.
I hope I am wrong but I do not see BG going to the NCAA tournament in the next 3 or 4 years. Our goal production is up but we are also near last in all of all of college hockey in goals against.
Sometimes it seems that things under Pooch seem better becuase we lose games 5-3 instead of 2-0 under Powers.
It is good to be optimistic and I think this team can finish around 7th next year but this year we thought the top 4 was possible. Every team in the nation thinks next year will be better. How long is it possible to just live on next year for a program.
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Dannyk,
You were concerned that people would take flame throwers to you.
It appeared that you were attemping to poss a question as to your concern for the future of BGSU Hockey. After reading the responses, it would appear that no one wishes to answer your concerns.
You have deep concerns, I have deep concerns. Where has BG finished in the league over the last 9 seasons?
Dannyk you possed a question, as a loyal BG Hockey fan I have a question. As hockey fans we have allegiances to:
BGSU-the Admin Bldg, Founders, Eva Marie Saint, Tim Coway and Dave Waddle
The BGSU Hockey program- Jack Vivian, Ken Morrow, Rob Blake, Jamie Wansbourgh. 1978, 1984, 1995
The Coaching Staff- Scott, Ron, Jamie
The Team Members- Sitko, Svendsen, Spratt et al
I ask the readers for their input. Where do your allegiances lie?
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WTF -Puckhead wrote:Dannyk,
You were concerned that people would take flame throwers to you.
It appeared that you were attemping to poss a question as to your concern for the future of BGSU Hockey. After reading the responses, it would appear that no one wishes to answer your concerns.
You have deep concerns, I have deep concerns. Where has BG finished in the league over the last 9 seasons?
Dannyk you possed a question, as a loyal BG Hockey fan I have a question. As hockey fans we have allegiances to:
BGSU-the Admin Bldg, Founders, Eva Marie Saint, Tim Coway and Dave Waddle
The BGSU Hockey program- Jack Vivian, Ken Morrow, Rob Blake, Jamie Wansbourgh. 1978, 1984, 1995
The Coaching Staff- Scott, Ron, Jamie
The Team Members- Sitko, Svendsen, Spratt et al
I ask the readers for their input. Where do your allegiances lie?
What's your question? First I didn't know Eva Marie Saint played hockey.
Concerning Dannyk's Q about the future of BG hockey....... It's on the upswing and we have now have a coach who was a excellant player at BG and has a great pedigree of coaching, namely under Jerry York. Paluch knows what its like to play for a great coach and to play for a dominant program. He also has the same experience as a coach under York. Paluch knows what it's like to be in the NCAA tourney. Powers had none. To even compare the two is ridiculus.
Rebuilding will take time. The program was driven into the ground and its going to take a BIG shovel to get us out of the hole. I almost wonder if previous adminstration (President) even wanted a hockey program. It took them so long to pull the trigger on the previous coach.
It has taken Miami nearly 16 years to get their program where it is today and its has more to do with getting coaches with providence. Mazzoleni had won the National Championship several times at DIV III (if memory serves me correctly) What BG has in its favor is a long-tradition as a Hockey power.
Be patient and supportive.
Actually, the two of them are more alike than you probably think. Buddy had a successful stint as head coach of RPI before coming to BG. He was also an assistant coach under Jerry York at BG. I believe (and am too lazy right now to look it up) Paluch took Buddy's position behind the bench at BG in the late 80's. Buddy also played college hockey for Boston University in the 70's.Tech83 wrote: Concerning Dannyk's Q about the future of BG hockey....... It's on the upswing and we have now have a coach who was a excellant player at BG and has a great pedigree of coaching, namely under Jerry York. Paluch knows what its like to play for a great coach and to play for a dominant program. He also has the same experience as a coach under York. Paluch knows what it's like to be in the NCAA tourney. Powers had none. To even compare the two is ridiculus.
Phi or Die
http://www.uscho.com/stats/coachYxY.php?gender=m&cid=28
I think we can credit Coach York and his recruiting for Buddy's first two years at BG. The third year was about .500 and last 5 (out of 8 years) were losing years. Buddy does have a winning record overall, 255 - 220 - 41, but only two appearances in the tourny.
Don't get me wrong, I won't lay all the blame at the coaches feet. Like I said, I wonder how much the administration supported the program in those days? And they aren't wearing skates, playing the game.
Paluchs record is showing improvement, with a three game slip this year (or five looking at the loss column). And we lost Siggy Jr. who had Hobey potential and 2 more years of eligiblity. That's a big hole to fill in one year.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/coachYxY.php ... 9&gender=m
2005-06 Bowling Green 13 21 2
2004-05 Bowling Green 16 16 4
2003-04 Bowling Green 11 18 9
2002-03 Bowling Green 8 25 3
TOTALS 48 80 18
Like I said or implied..... I am hopeful for the future. I think it looks brighter than in 2001-02.
I think we can credit Coach York and his recruiting for Buddy's first two years at BG. The third year was about .500 and last 5 (out of 8 years) were losing years. Buddy does have a winning record overall, 255 - 220 - 41, but only two appearances in the tourny.
Don't get me wrong, I won't lay all the blame at the coaches feet. Like I said, I wonder how much the administration supported the program in those days? And they aren't wearing skates, playing the game.
Paluchs record is showing improvement, with a three game slip this year (or five looking at the loss column). And we lost Siggy Jr. who had Hobey potential and 2 more years of eligiblity. That's a big hole to fill in one year.
http://www.uscho.com/stats/coachYxY.php ... 9&gender=m
2005-06 Bowling Green 13 21 2
2004-05 Bowling Green 16 16 4
2003-04 Bowling Green 11 18 9
2002-03 Bowling Green 8 25 3
TOTALS 48 80 18
Like I said or implied..... I am hopeful for the future. I think it looks brighter than in 2001-02.
First things first - Powers was a good coach. He knows the game inside and out. What he wasn't was a disciplinarian. I often wonder if his earlier heart condition took something away from his drive because his first couple of recruiting classes were rated very high, but steadily went down hill. It was blamed on facilities but my guess is that the problem was elsewhere. I will always respect Buddy. He's a great guy and the program is stronger because he's still involved, albeit in a much different roll.
Redhawk95, IMO, is much closer to the answer than many here are. It may be due to his outside view, and our tendency to critique every little thing. Give Paluch some time. We needed offense more than defense when he came here. We have that now (and more coming), but we also have a couple of good defensemen coming in in the next couple of years as well as a highly touted goalie. We're not as far away from contending as you all may think.
Redhawk95, IMO, is much closer to the answer than many here are. It may be due to his outside view, and our tendency to critique every little thing. Give Paluch some time. We needed offense more than defense when he came here. We have that now (and more coming), but we also have a couple of good defensemen coming in in the next couple of years as well as a highly touted goalie. We're not as far away from contending as you all may think.
That's cool. I respect your opinion. And this is Paluch first Head Coach position, so time will tell. Buddy might be a great guy, but I think BGFan's disciplinarian comment might be the operative issue here.pdt1081 wrote:I agree with you here. Just not on the "to even compare the two is ridiculous" comment.Tech83 wrote: Like I said or implied..... I am hopeful for the future. I think it looks brighter than in 2001-02.
Key Issue - we both see a bright future at this position in time and space.
I am not sure about the facilities issue and am not sold on it as being a key issue. That being said, a major renovation of the "House" area of the arena might be a good idea. I would like to see updated concessions, better seats (reduce the number of benches to student sections only), updated lighting, some modern electonic/video boards and sound system, and renovated toilet rooms. It is my understanding the team areas were improved under the addition/reno from a few years ago.
What is the ice size, does it need to be enlarged? If so, that might call for a new "House" - maybe to the south of the Curling area or a new arena period.
The ice size is regulation. The only ice larger is olympic ice, so that's a non-issue. As for the locker rooms, you're correct, they were renovated. FWIW, Buddy was KEY in getting that addition put on. The university had nothing to do with it and wanted nothing to do with it. It was put up solely with private funds. He deserve's huge kudos for that.
From what I understand, there is a renovation plan that is awaiting approval. If everything on it gets the go ahead, we'll have an arena that nobody will be able to say is a detrement to recruiting.
From what I understand, there is a renovation plan that is awaiting approval. If everything on it gets the go ahead, we'll have an arena that nobody will be able to say is a detrement to recruiting.
