I'd like to thank Dan Dakich

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Fri Mar 03, 2006 6:41 pm

dduncan wrote:
Dan makes 125K. It turns out that bgsufalcon24 was closer than you. Who's the uninformed blowhard?
How much does he make in shoe contract, camps, etc..., if any? I really don't know.

That's a good question. I don't think that it's public information the way his university salary is. I'm sure that it varies and that it's not a very solid source of income. The real shoe money is in the bigs.

DrDesert · Post by **DrDesert** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:03 am

Glad to see that many of you are finally starting to "see the light." If you look back, I've never mentioned anything about won-loss record when expressing my disdain for Dakich. What's interesting is that his only strength is using mind games and manipulation to control his players, fans, and the media. It's starting to unravel and more people are finally figuring it out.

guest44 · Post by **guest44** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:40 am

How does a coach manipulate a fan? Does he cast a spell over me? Does he tell me I have to buy season tickets or else? Did coach Dakich manipulate Keith McLeod into an NBA player, they same way he manipualted a player that left the program. I think W's L's are much more important to fans than manipulation. Your manipulation argument makes no sense. Do you really think this discussion would happen if we were 19-9. Thank god all BG fans are realizing that we have been manipulated, and with a new coach we will be able to think and act without manipulation. Can posters on this board be manipulated to never post such garbage?

CrazyFan · Post by **CrazyFan** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:04 am

DrDesert wrote:Glad to see that many of you are finally starting to "see the light." If you look back, I've never mentioned anything about won-loss record when expressing my disdain for Dakich. What's interesting is that his only strength is using mind games and manipulation to control his players, fans, and the media. It's starting to unravel and more people are finally figuring it out.

I see DrDesert is manipulating the manipulators so they in turn can go on and manipulate others in this manipulating world. Dakich manipualted me!! I wish I didn't have to attend all these home games and some of the road games!! I feel sooooo freakin maipulated!! Get a life Desert!

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:10 am

Dan=Darth Vader?

Steven Wright=Luke Skywalker?

Ron Lewis=Yoda?

Dr Desert=Dale Barnard?

My head hurts....

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:13 am

CrazyFan wrote:
DrDesert wrote:Glad to see that many of you are finally starting to "see the light." If you look back, I've never mentioned anything about won-loss record when expressing my disdain for Dakich. What's interesting is that his only strength is using mind games and manipulation to control his players, fans, and the media. It's starting to unravel and more people are finally figuring it out.
I see DrDesert is manipulating the manipulators so they in turn can go on and manipulate others in this manipulating world. Dakich manipualted me!! I wish I didn't have to attend all these home games and some of the road games!! I feel sooooo freakin maipulated!! Get a life Desert!

Poor DrDesert. Every time he posts out here he ends up taking a licking. Flipper really put it to him last time with all of the clown jokes. Now, you guys with you manipulation parody. Even when he generally agrees with most of the board, he gets beaten up. Perhaps DrDesert should be more careful in how he exresses himself? (herself?)

CrazyFan · Post by **CrazyFan** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:13 am

Flipper wrote:Dan=Darth Vader?

Steven Wright=Luke Skywalker?

Ron Lewis=Yoda?

Dr Desert=Dale Barnard?

My head hurts....

Dakich is Wrights father??

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:27 am

BleedOrange wrote:
CrazyFan wrote:
DrDesert wrote:Glad to see that many of you are finally starting to "see the light." If you look back, I've never mentioned anything about won-loss record when expressing my disdain for Dakich. What's interesting is that his only strength is using mind games and manipulation to control his players, fans, and the media. It's starting to unravel and more people are finally figuring it out.
I see DrDesert is manipulating the manipulators so they in turn can go on and manipulate others in this manipulating world. Dakich manipualted me!! I wish I didn't have to attend all these home games and some of the road games!! I feel sooooo freakin maipulated!! Get a life Desert!

Poor DrDesert. Every time he posts out here he ends up taking a licking. Flipper really put it to him last time with all of the clown jokes. Now, you guys with you manipulation parody. Even when he generally agrees with most of the board, he gets beaten up. Perhaps DrDesert should be more careful in how he exresses himself? (herself?)

I haven't been very nice to the Dr.... I don't mean to single him out. I actually agree with him on the notion that we have some problems here in the men's bball program and that some of them are likely caused by Dan's personality or coaching style.

I guess I have a problem with the hyperbole that surrounds some of the criticism from him and others on the board. DD is a basketball coach who's having some problems with job performance. He's not some evil wizard or neo fascist brown shirt...or orange and brown shirt. We're losing more games than we're winning and the team is fricking boring to watch...painfully boring to watch. But...the sun is still out and I've got the chain saw ready to go and a 12lb splitting maul to make little sticks out of big ones.

.....Life goes on....

as for the Vader/Skywalker comparison.....I never was very good with the Star Wars analogies...

guest44 · Post by **guest44** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 10:41 am

is a basketball program that is really struggling. No manipulation. No mind games. No trying to make players fail. A few transfers led to lots of transfers and it has spun out of control. Is Dakich a good basketball coach? I don't know. I have a good feeling that he could be very successful some place else. However, I feel that just like BG's last basketball coach, Dakich will probably be better off at another school. The main concern for me is not the coach, but the facilities. BG has lost the atmosphere that Anderson Arena needs in order to recruit, and be the huge advantage it was. If BG does hire another coach, he has alot of work in front of him. BG basketball's success and Anderson Arena's atmosphere for games go hand in hand. Anderson lost it's atmosphere 3 or 4 years ago. That to me, has hurt the program as much as anything else.

DrDesert · Post by **DrDesert** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 4:55 pm

First of all, I'm not Dale Barnhard. My concerns for the basketball program were expressed to those who know me long before I found this forum. I don't value winning at all costs, but if you want to go there, you can make a pretty strong case that Dakich's success years only happened as a result of Larranaga's recruits.

Manipulation (according to Webster) is to handle with skill or to cause by clever maneuvering to act as one wishes. When I hear fans repeating the Dakich story line and excuses, I feel they have been manipulated, even when they don't realize it. I've been fortunate to have experienced a lot of success in my life working with people and I don't appreciate the Dakich style of management.

As for getting beat up on the forum, that's not totally true. Despite the fact that I've not called anyone names or tried to humiliate them, many of my posts get deleted, so you only get a chance to read the ones attacking me. No need to feel sorry for me as I can handle it. I just hope we can get some good leadership into the men's basketball program as we have in so many other sports.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 5:18 pm

Many of yor posts get deleted? By whom? I think I've deleted three to five posts by you. One was deleted because it was inappropriate for the topic it was placed in and the other three or so were deleted because you wouldn't stop crying about the first one even after the rationale for the deletion was made abundantly (and repeatedly) clear to you.

HoopsFan · Post by **HoopsFan** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 8:32 pm

guest44 wrote:How does a coach manipulate a fan? Does he cast a spell over me? Does he tell me I have to buy season tickets or else? Did coach Dakich manipulate Keith McLeod into an NBA player, they same way he manipualted a player that left the program. I think W's L's are much more important to fans than manipulation. Your manipulation argument makes no sense. Do you really think this discussion would happen if we were 19-9. Thank god all BG fans are realizing that we have been manipulated, and with a new coach we will be able to think and act without manipulation. Can posters on this board be manipulated to never post such garbage?

Krebs is/was under consideration for the New Mexico job. Maybe we can trade Krebs and Dakich and the Football and Hockey coach for a new AD with new mens coaches.

How's Larranaga doing?

Hoopsfan

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:02 pm

Well here's some facts for you to digest. Scott Paluch is the real deal of coaches. Pooch was a graduate of this University and if I'm not mistaken, played at the pro level. He is loved by the school, his players, and the fans. Did you watch games 3, 4 years ago when we were in the cellar? Here's something else to chew on, we beat 5 or 6 ranked teams this year in hockey even though we lost one of the greatest goalies to ever play at this University.

Now you want to talk football? Our coach has 2 bowl victories in 3 years including a drudging of Miami at their house. We've got a great QB coming up next year and our defense will have the system down.

Don't pass off this witch hunt attitude to other sports just because you're mad about hoops.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:05 pm

Play nicely......

BleedOrange · Post by **BleedOrange** » Sat Mar 04, 2006 9:09 pm

DrDesert wrote:First of all, I'm not Dale Barnhard. My concerns for the basketball program were expressed to those who know me long before I found this forum. I don't value winning at all costs, but if you want to go there, you can make a pretty strong case that Dakich's success years only happened as a result of Larranaga's recruits.

Manipulation (according to Webster) is to handle with skill or to cause by clever maneuvering to act as one wishes. When I hear fans repeating the Dakich story line and excuses, I feel they have been manipulated, even when they don't realize it. I've been fortunate to have experienced a lot of success in my life working with people and I don't appreciate the Dakich style of management.

As for getting beat up on the forum, that's not totally true. Despite the fact that I've not called anyone names or tried to humiliate them, many of my posts get deleted, so you only get a chance to read the ones attacking me. No need to feel sorry for me as I can handle it. I just hope we can get some good leadership into the men's basketball program as we have in so many other sports.

I can understand the comments about his mind games with the players. To an extent, "mind games" are fair game for a coach, and perhaps DD takes them to an extreme - I don't know . However, it's hard to buy the idea that he has effectively manipulated the fans, or even attempted to beyond showing a friendly public front for good pub. His approval ratings seem damned low, so even if he has attempted to manuplate the fans, he isn't doing it very well.

I'd like to thank Dan Dakich

Manipulate fans?

What we have.....

Re: Manipulate fans? Well, look at the bright side of DD