Foster leaving

pdt1081 · Post by **pdt1081** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 10:42 am

FrozenOrange wrote: Is that right? Perhaps you'd be good enough to share with us the personal experince you have that allows you to judge who is and who is not good enough to play pro hockey. NHL GM? NHL Assistant GM? NHL Chief Scout? NHL scout? NHL Head Coach? NHL Assistant Coach? NHL Equipment Manager? NHL stick-boy? NHL team photo-copier operator? .......... and ditto for the AHL, ECHL, UHL and all the pro teams in Europe.

If its none of the above then your [/b]personal opinion is irrelevent.

Direct involvement with the sport has nothing to do with whether or not someone's opinion is relevent. If that was the case, most of the posters here would not be able to discuss BGSU hockey at all. I fit into one of the positions at BGSU that you mention for the NHL. Is my opinion then one of the few that are relevent? There are members here who have never held a position with a hockey team that are a lot more qualified to evaluate a player's potential than me. Mainly because of their age and the actual amount of college hockey that they have watched over the years. Telling someone their opinion is irrelevent because they've never been worked for a team discounts everything you'll ever say as useless drivel.

I disagree with bgsufalcon24's comment, but I'd never say his opinion is irrelevent. I have seen better players not make it in the NHL, and I have seen less talented players have great careers there. Foster is a great college hockey player with a chance to fulfill his dream to play in the NHL. Is he making a mistake by leaving, I don't think so. Do I wish he stayed? You better believe it.

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 12:52 pm

pdt1081 wrote:Also, for the old timers here. Ken Klee was recently traded from Toronto to New Jersey. Seems he was well liked around there too.
Ken Klee

Yeah, I saw that last night, too, but was a little too "under the weather" to post it.

FrozenOrange · Post by **FrozenOrange** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 4:10 pm

pdt1081 wrote: I disagree with bgsufalcon24's comment, but I'd never say his opinion is irrelevent.

In what way is it relevent? It is baseless - the opinion of someone who is not qualified to asess a player's pro potential. None of the parties involved asked for it. The deal is done and Foster is gone.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 8:26 pm

FrozenOrange wrote:
pdt1081 wrote: I disagree with bgsufalcon24's comment, but I'd never say his opinion is irrelevent.
In what way is it relevent? It is baseless - the opinion of someone who is not qualified to asess a player's pro potential. None of the parties involved asked for it. The deal is done and Foster is gone.

People are allowed to have opinions. If they differ from yours then they differ from yours. It's not that big of a deal.

There is no harm to that. If 24 thinks he's not cut out for the pros, that is his opinion. I, too, disagree with his assessment. So what? When 24 realizes the error in his opinion then you can perform a little victory happy dance and move on.

Foster is gone, but he doesn't take the team's will to compete. He credited the coaching staff for developing him so that he would have a shot at the pros. That's a far cry from him saying that "this place sucks and is for losers" as some have made this situation out to be. *cough*dannyk*cough*

Pooch will eventually have this team so that they don't rebuild; they reload.

FrozenOrange · Post by **FrozenOrange** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 9:22 pm

Rightupinthere wrote: People are allowed to have opinions. If they differ from yours then they differ from yours. It's not that big of a deal.

I was not questioning peoples' right to opinions. Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one and sometimes they stink. I was questioning how the opinion of 24 is relevent given his/her apparent lack of credibility as a qualified judge of hockey talent. You ducked the question.

As for what Foster had to say about the coaches - he said what a kid with his class would say. If you want to interpret that as an overwhelming endorsement of Pooch as a coach, go right ahead.

I have never, nor will I ever, question Scott's passion and dedication to the Orange and Brown. However, it takes more than that to become the coaching legend that the contributors to this forum are predicting he will be. And, by the way, what exactly is your definition of eventually? 2years? 5 years?

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 11:28 pm

FrozenOrange wrote:
Rightupinthere wrote: People are allowed to have opinions. If they differ from yours then they differ from yours. It's not that big of a deal.
I was not questioning peoples' right to opinions. Opinions are like a$$holes, everybody has one and sometimes they stink. I was questioning how the opinion of 24 is relevent given his/her apparent lack of credibility as a qualified judge of hockey talent. You ducked the question.

As for what Foster had to say about the coaches - he said what a kid with his class would say. If you want to interpret that as an overwhelming endorsement of Pooch as a coach, go right ahead.

I have never, nor will I ever, question Scott's passion and dedication to the Orange and Brown. However, it takes more than that to become the coaching legend that the contributors to this forum are predicting he will be. And, by the way, what exactly is your definition of eventually? 2years? 5 years?

Okay, I'll type clearer so that you may read my words from atop your high horse. You are attempting to qualify and quantify people's opinions based on a needed level of credibility. Sorry, but this is laughable knowing that THIS is ONLY an internet message board.
If a person said that the sky was blue, would you ask them for a rundown of their scientific pedigree?
I am not a professional judge of hockey talent but I believe Foster will do very well in the NHL. Why do you not qualify my words? Because they agree with your standpoint.

I believe Foster's parting words were more than standard lip service to Pooch. If you want to discount his words, then by all means, accuse the kid of lying.

Scott will have a winning program within two years. He will have this program consistantly in the top three to four teams in the league. Don't ask me for my background, it's just my gut feeling. If you don't like that knowing that I obviouslyh have such little hockey knowledge, ignore it.

24 said he disagreed with Foster leaving and said that he PERSONALLY doesn't believe that he was ready for the NHL. Pretty innocuous words which set you into full Pit Bull attack mode - an unwelcomed practice in the hockey forum.

Dublin Falcon · Post by **Dublin Falcon** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 7:56 am

I like your optimisim. Having not attended nearly as many games the past 2 years I don't know the soph class as well as I should - what players do you anticpate having breakthrough seasons the next 2 years to make up for the scoring losses of Foster, Pilk and Falk? Realize with 3 Seniors next year and 2 guys committed (1 D and 1 G) next year's team will be it for the next 2 years prettymuch at Fwd.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:29 am

The first game I attended in forever was just this year. The only thing I know is what I hear on the radio and what information I gleen from my comrades here on AZZ.com.

I expect Svendsen to better his freshman points output by 50%. He got 141 shots (2nd) on goal, it's only a matter of luck (or whatever you want to call it) for him to have more of those become goals.

I hope to hear a lot more of Mazzie this coming season. He's been relatively quiet for his first two years (realtive to his talent level). He should be registering better than a point a game. If I was going to peg someone to have a breakout season, it would be this kid.

I'm looking forward to see what Brian Bales can do with some more playing time. He only played in 7 games, but I've heard really good things about him.

Again, I've seen this team play once - much to my chagrin. I will defer to the fans who have seen this team play more to give a more round opinion. I feel really good about the future, however.

bgbill · Post by **bgbill** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:43 am

This thread is getting highjacked all to hell - perhaps we need to start a "2006-'07 expectations" one.
That being said, what we need is somebody with a good, heavy, from-the-point shot.

Rightupinthere · Post by **Rightupinthere** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 10:55 am

bgbill wrote:This thread is getting highjacked all to hell - perhaps we need to start a "2006-'07 expectations" one.

Hijacked? I prefer the term, "scattered".

Dublin Falcon · Post by **Dublin Falcon** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:09 am

WE should start a new one IMO - Foster is gone and there is not much more to say about that. Regrading the last few posts, I wonder if Bales will be back - any thoughts? I also agree that Mazzei needs to step it up big time.

Falcon Fanatic · Post by **Falcon Fanatic** » Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:28 am

bgbill wrote:what we need is somebody with a good, heavy, from-the-point shot.

Like Rob Blake used to do (and still does)?

I AGREE!!! No one here, since, has had a hard, rocket shot like Blakey's!!!!