Its official.

Warthog · Post by **Warthog** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 3:21 pm

transfer2BGSU wrote:Krebs didn't take a shot at BG. Krebs is a BG product. Some of you need to quit being so damn petty.

I am sure his intention was to flatter New Mexico and the MWC conference when he said it. Trying to make them feel good about themselves. But at the same time, he is definitely making it sound as if the entire feeling of the MAC is that not only are we several steps down from a BCS conf, but there are also other mid-major conferences above the MAC on the ladder to the BCS conferences.

BG EV · Post by **BG EV** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:52 pm

After visiting the NM website I think I understand Paul's comment. Their athletic department budget is $22 million. They already have the facilities we only wish for and the conference has 3 bowl bids every year. Not to mention that they have men's tennis, track, swimming (even skiing). Sports he was force to cut at BG for various reasons - maybe the toughest task he was forced to carry out in his time at BG. Their average attendance for football was in the 34,000 area and boosters number far more than ours. This is far closer to BCS than we care to admit. They have major academic programs such as a teaching hospital etc. - sounds like a major institution to me. I love and support BGSU but the facts are the facts.

kdog27 · Post by **kdog27** » Mon Mar 13, 2006 11:59 pm

BG EV wrote:After visiting the NM website I think I understand Paul's comment. Their athletic department budget is $22 million. They already have the facilities we only wish for and the conference has 3 bowl bids every year. Not to mention that they have men's tennis, track, swimming (even skiing). Sports he was force to cut at BG for various reasons - maybe the toughest task he was forced to carry out in his time at BG. Their average attendance for football was in the 34,000 area and boosters number far more than ours. This is far closer to BCS than we care to admit. They have major academic programs such as a teaching hospital etc. - sounds like a major institution to me. I love and support BGSU but the facts are the facts.

Good post. Pretty much any time anyone leaves here we are unhappy with something they said. You can't please everyone all the time.

Falcon Pete · Post by **Falcon Pete** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 12:05 am

Excellent post BG EV....we all tend to get sensitive about comments in the MAC....even hyper sensitive at times. But Paul said what he needed to say and what he said has a lot of truth behind it.

San Diego Falcon · Post by **San Diego Falcon** » Tue Mar 14, 2006 10:40 am

Excellent post BG EV....we all tend to get sensitive about comments in the MAC....even hyper sensitive at times. But Paul said what he needed to say and what he said has a lot of truth behind it.

He didn't "need" to say anything about BG or the MAC. He could have just complimented UNM and left it at that. It's unfortunate, but no one besides us here probably noticed it or will remember it. His good work here will be remembered.

Touchdown Rockets · Post by **Touchdown Rockets** » Fri Mar 17, 2006 11:20 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:
transfer2BGSU wrote:Krebs didn't take a shot at BG. Krebs is a BG product. Some of you need to quit being so damn petty.

If the quote is accurate, he absolutely did take a shot at BG, along with every other school in the MAC.

Exactly. I'm glad to see that most of you guys felt the same way. He doesn't speak for all teams in the MAC.

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 8:50 am

This controversy points up an interesting idea. We look at the performance of our teams (particularly football) and we think "Geez Paul, we're as close to the BCS as the Mountain West Conference"

There's a flaw to that argument. It assumes that performance is relevant to a career adminstrator. I contend that facilities are more important. Teams come and go and you win some and you lose some, but if you're in a job for years and years the enviroment in which you work is a constant. Krebs is trading in a crumbling Doyt Perry Stadium and a decrepit Anderson Arena for real facilities. From his perspective, he's trading in a cubicle by the men's room for an office with a window.

I guess I'd be thrilled also

Post by **ZiggyZoomba** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:16 am

Nice perspective... I'd been trying to put my finger on exactly what you just said. "Big time" teams are different than "Big time" facilities and athletic departments. We've had some "Big Time" teams in recent years... the other... not so much.

redhawk95 · Post by **redhawk95** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:21 am

perhaps folks, myself included, were simply surprised he made the comment. while reading this thread has helped me understand where it came from, i still contend it was unnecessary.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 11:26 am

Flipper wrote:a crumbling Doyt Perry Stadium

That's pretty strong. The stadium needs some work, but it will serve us well indefinitely if we treat it right.

Lord_Byron · Post by **Lord_Byron** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:00 pm

Flipper wrote:This controversy points up an interesting idea. We look at the performance of our teams (particularly football) and we think "Geez Paul, we're as close to the BCS as the Mountain West Conference"

There's a flaw to that argument. It assumes that performance is relevant to a career adminstrator. I contend that facilities are more important. Teams come and go and you win some and you lose some, but if you're in a job for years and years the enviroment in which you work is a constant. Krebs is trading in a crumbling Doyt Perry Stadium and a decrepit Anderson Arena for real facilities. From his perspective, he's trading in a cubicle by the men's room for an office with a window.

I guess I'd be thrilled also

Bingo. Look at the eight teams in the Mountain West:

Airforce, BYU, Colorado State, New Mexico, San Diego State, TCU, Utah, UNLV, Wyoming.

One, Airforce, is a national university with the US govt providing funding. Five are the flagship schools in their state, one is the second largest public college in the state, one is San Diego State and one is funded by the Mormons.

Can we compete athletically with any of the MWC? Of course we can. Can we compete in committment from the state for funding with them? Less obvious and more open to debate.

Flipper is right, it's facilities and support for the universities that make an AD job attractive. Krebs got it done at BG, and he'll get it done at UNM.

But, I also fervently believe that we'll get someone else who can get the job done at BG.

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:15 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Flipper wrote:a crumbling Doyt Perry Stadium
That's pretty strong. The stadium needs some work, but it will serve us well indefinitely if we treat it right.

Not to mention a high school gym of a basketball arena.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:18 pm

bgsufalcon24 wrote: Not to mention a high school gym of a basketball arena.

STFU

Flipper · Post by **Flipper** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:40 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Flipper wrote:a crumbling Doyt Perry Stadium
That's pretty strong. The stadium needs some work, but it will serve us well indefinitely if we treat it right.

I think a chunk of concrete the size of a Buick falling off of it qualifies as crumbling. I agree that the stadium could serve us well for years to come if we take care of it. I don't know if we've done that. A renovvation of the stadium is long overdue. The stadium has sat there for 40 years with minimal improvements and basic maintenance

bgsufalcon24 · Post by **bgsufalcon24** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 12:44 pm

Tricky_Falcon wrote:
bgsufalcon24 wrote: Not to mention a high school gym of a basketball arena.
STFU

No, I'm not going to STFU just because you cannot come to grips with reality.

Its official.

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