Anthony Turner, Ryan Patrick Arrested

[JoeFalcon]

Schad hit the bullseye regarding perspective.

Let's not immediatly lump the BG program in with Toledo over this single incident. Ken Burns could do a 8-part documentary on the discipline issues surrounding UT, including a lot more than smoking weed in a parking lot or violating the fireworks statutes. They worked long and hard to earn their anti-social stripes and it'll take more than this to reach their standard. This is like Utah considering themselves an annual Top 10 team after their 2005 Fiesta Bowl victory.

Refreshingly, h2rocket had the right thought: wait for the reponse from Coach Brandon before reaching a conclusion.

[Flipper]

Ummmm.... I really wouldn't be throwing a lot of stones right now. This is the second marijuanna related bust involving football players in the past few years.....one might say it's a "chronic" problem

[RideORDie]

I read these forums everyday and every time I read them it pisses me off to watch grown people sit here and argue back and forth about something they know nothing about. So I decided to join in the "fun" game and state my opinion because I'm sick of people acting like they know everything. LISTEN: You are getting your information from the BGSU newspaper. A newspaper that is put together by STUDENTS. So before you go making suggestions on how these boys should be punished check your sources. It is irrelevant that Turner got "WARNED" never cited or ticketed about shooting off fireworks. C'mon a brush with the law for setting of a simple black cat off. WHOA send him to jail. So don’t start making assumptions that this is his 2nd offence if you knew the correct information and was not going off of a student paper then maybe you could have a legitimate argument. I agree both of these boys have made major mistakes. But don’t start twisting the story out of hand, not once did it say they SMOKED in Offenhauer parking lot. They were caught with weed and the assumption of course is they smoke and that is fine but don’t start making the story out of control. They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year. I think it is funny that you all have such quick opinions on this situation without even knowing what the hell is going on. The boys have already received their punishment, set in stone. So stop suggesting outrageous consequences. They made a mistake, SO WHAT. They know they let EVERYONE DOWN. SO stop bashing them and rubbing their faces in it. Give them encouragement to get through this difficult situation.

[pdt1081]

I don't usually venture into the football boards, but here's my suggestion for punishment:

• 1. Not allowed to practice with the team during the spring. Not saying they don't practice, they practice together but not with the rest of the team. Running laps/steps seems like a fair practice. Gotta work on that conditioning that smoking takes away.
  
  2. Suspended for the first game next season. They messed up, they don't play the next game.
  
  3. Random drug testing throughout the season and offseason for as long as they attend BGSU. They fail one, they are gone forever. No ifs ands or buts about it. If they don't have a legal prescription it had better not be in their system.
  
  4. Must give presentations at local schools (elementary, jr high, high school) about the consequences of drugs. This will be in addition to any community service they receive from the University and courts. They can speak from experience about how using drugs almost ruined their life.
  
  5. Graduate on time.

If they fail to complete any of these requirements they are removed from the team and must repay all scholarship money received. Hit them where it's going to hurt the most ($$$). They have money to spend on drugs, they have money to repay the school.


On edit: This is a model for punishment of any athlete with a drug related offense. This does not just apply to the two players this thread is about. Some modifications would need to be made to 1 and 2 based on the sport/timing of incident ("next" season, "spring" practice). You get the idea.

[BGDrew]

I read these forums everyday and every time I read them it pisses me off to watch grown people sit here and argue back and forth about something they know nothing about. So I decided to join in the "fun" game and state my opinion because I'm sick of people acting like they know everything. LISTEN: You are getting your information from the BGSU newspaper. A newspaper that is put together by STUDENTS. So before you go making suggestions on how these boys should be punished check your sources. It is irrelevant that Turner got "WARNED" never cited or ticketed about shooting off fireworks. C'mon a brush with the law for setting of a simple black cat off. WHOA send him to jail. So don’t start making assumptions that this is his 2nd offence if you knew the correct information and was not going off of a student paper then maybe you could have a legitimate argument. I agree both of these boys have made major mistakes. But don’t start twisting the story out of hand, not once did it say they SMOKED in Offenhauer parking lot. They were caught with weed and the assumption of course is they smoke and that is fine but don’t start making the story out of control. They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year. I think it is funny that you all have such quick opinions on this situation without even knowing what the hell is going on. The boys have already received their punishment, set in stone. So stop suggesting outrageous consequences. They made a mistake, SO WHAT. They know they let EVERYONE DOWN. SO stop bashing them and rubbing their faces in it. Give them encouragement to get through this difficult situation.

Thanks for posting and hopefully this isn't the only time you join in a conversation.

There's a great deal of frustration right now. These players have been given a tremendous opportunity. I am personally a student and paying my way. No scholarships, no grants, all me. It angers me that someone with such a great opportunity is doing things which could make that all go away just for recreational drug use. Also, realize that as the potential starting QB for the team he represents the team and the university.

Just my view on things.

[San Diego Falcon]

They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year.

It says that they were arrested for drug possession. It says that Patrick admitted smoking the drug. I stand by my opinion because I expect more from this program. I'll error on the side of coming down too hard than too soft everytime.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

Maybe Turner has Glaucoma.

[Crew Love]

I read these forums everyday and every time I read them it pisses me off to watch grown people sit here and argue back and forth about something they know nothing about. So I decided to join in the "fun" game and state my opinion because I'm sick of people acting like they know everything. LISTEN: You are getting your information from the BGSU newspaper. A newspaper that is put together by STUDENTS. So before you go making suggestions on how these boys should be punished check your sources. It is irrelevant that Turner got "WARNED" never cited or ticketed about shooting off fireworks. C'mon a brush with the law for setting of a simple black cat off. WHOA send him to jail. So don’t start making assumptions that this is his 2nd offence if you knew the correct information and was not going off of a student paper then maybe you could have a legitimate argument. I agree both of these boys have made major mistakes. But don’t start twisting the story out of hand, not once did it say they SMOKED in Offenhauer parking lot. They were caught with weed and the assumption of course is they smoke and that is fine but don’t start making the story out of control. They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year. I think it is funny that you all have such quick opinions on this situation without even knowing what the hell is going on. The boys have already received their punishment, set in stone. So stop suggesting outrageous consequences. They made a mistake, SO WHAT. They know they let EVERYONE DOWN. SO stop bashing them and rubbing their faces in it. Give them encouragement to get through this difficult situation.

RideORDie...

You're right. It never specifically said that they "smoked" in the Offenhauer parking lot, however, it is very easily inferred. To quote the story, "After campus police sensed suspicious activity, an officer approached Patrick's GMC SUV, and detected a strong odor coming from the vehicle...". If the marijuana had been smoked somewhere else, this "strong odor" would not be escaping the automobile. If they had not smoked the weed in the vehicle, "a rubber container holding marijuana seeds and stems" would presumably not have been on the vehicle's floor. Regardless, dismissing this situation as easily as you are is somewhat ridiculous. For a minute, let's go with your story and say that the weed was not smoked on campus. What does this matter? Has the legislation been changed to allow the smoking of marijuana in the rest of the Bowling Green city limits? No matter the angle this situation is looked at from, the bottom line is that laws were broken and legal and athletic repercussions will follow.

-- Crew Love

[PGY Tiercel]

I read these forums everyday and every time I read them it pisses me off to watch grown people sit here and argue back and forth about something they know nothing about. So I decided to join in the "fun" game and state my opinion because I'm sick of people acting like they know everything. LISTEN: You are getting your information from the BGSU newspaper. A newspaper that is put together by STUDENTS. So before you go making suggestions on how these boys should be punished check your sources. It is irrelevant that Turner got "WARNED" never cited or ticketed about shooting off fireworks. C'mon a brush with the law for setting of a simple black cat off. WHOA send him to jail. So don’t start making assumptions that this is his 2nd offence if you knew the correct information and was not going off of a student paper then maybe you could have a legitimate argument. I agree both of these boys have made major mistakes. But don’t start twisting the story out of hand, not once did it say they SMOKED in Offenhauer parking lot. They were caught with weed and the assumption of course is they smoke and that is fine but don’t start making the story out of control. They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year. I think it is funny that you all have such quick opinions on this situation without even knowing what the hell is going on. The boys have already received their punishment, set in stone. So stop suggesting outrageous consequences. They made a mistake, SO WHAT. They know they let EVERYONE DOWN. SO stop bashing them and rubbing their faces in it. Give them encouragement to get through this difficult situation.

"difficult situation". They were caught with illegal subsatances at best. At worst they were smoking it and this isn't a one time deal. Either way, it is their own damn fault they are in this situation. I'm not going to call for them to be suspended from a game, its a punishement that is probably even more severe then the what they will get from the courts anyways. But don't feed this us this line of BS that they need encourament and that this is a difficult situation. You better bet your ass everyone on campus is talking about this. This is where people that aren't on campus come to talk about happenings, its just more public than guys in a dorm arguing about it.

[Flipper]

We should have taken more notice of Turner's HS graduation photo...

This actually Peter Tosh from his Legalize it album

[98_BG_GRAD]

Could either of these two be charge with some sort of DUI since they were in a car? If you are in the driver's seat of a car and drunk (see Frank Solich) you could be charged with DUI, right? Is this any different? (I realize that Solich was on the side of a road, but I know someone who was in his apartment complex parking lot and passed out in his car and was charged with DUI. The cop had no idea if he had been driving or not.) For their sake I hope there are no more charges and I am no legal expert, so I could be totally off here.

After all this discussion and hearing many differant opinions, I just hope Coach Brandon takes some action and comes out publicly and tells us what the punishment is and why he did what he did. I also think that he should wait until the legal process plays out before a final judgement, but that does not mean we, as fans, can't throw out our opinions on what we think should happen assuming these allegations are true.

[Crew Love]

I read these forums everyday and every time I read them it pisses me off to watch grown people sit here and argue back and forth about something they know nothing about. So I decided to join in the "fun" game and state my opinion because I'm sick of people acting like they know everything. LISTEN: You are getting your information from the BGSU newspaper. A newspaper that is put together by STUDENTS. So before you go making suggestions on how these boys should be punished check your sources. It is irrelevant that Turner got "WARNED" never cited or ticketed about shooting off fireworks. C'mon a brush with the law for setting of a simple black cat off. WHOA send him to jail. So don’t start making assumptions that this is his 2nd offence if you knew the correct information and was not going off of a student paper then maybe you could have a legitimate argument. I agree both of these boys have made major mistakes. But don’t start twisting the story out of hand, not once did it say they SMOKED in Offenhauer parking lot. They were caught with weed and the assumption of course is they smoke and that is fine but don’t start making the story out of control. They did not get caught smoking weed in the parking lot! READ the story before you go on saying Turner and Patrick should be out a whole year. I think it is funny that you all have such quick opinions on this situation without even knowing what the hell is going on. The boys have already received their punishment, set in stone. So stop suggesting outrageous consequences. They made a mistake, SO WHAT. They know they let EVERYONE DOWN. SO stop bashing them and rubbing their faces in it. Give them encouragement to get through this difficult situation.

I agree that these young men need encouragement. However, dismissing what happened or treating the situation with kiddie gloves is not the answer; tough love is. The only way to genuinely support Anthony and Ryan is to help teach them and show them their wrongs. Bowling Green State University is an academic institution where learning extends outside of the classroom and into life lessons. Treating student-athletes like they are above the law is not encouragement, it's an injustice. If the coaching staff and law enforcement/judicial officials take this unfortunate event seriously and react sternly, it may not be good for next year's football team, but will be good for Anthony Turner and Ryan Patrick's futures.

[RideORDie]

First off I’m not taking anything away from the situation. You are all right that this situation is F***ed up. I agree they both made the biggest mistakes of their life. And you don’t think they don’t know that already? I was simply saying to people that don’t understand what they read to get your s**t straight before you go off and say stupid things about how they should be punished. They got caught doing an illegal thing and I believe they should be punished. But you got to understand they are kids. They are human, you all act like you are perfect. No one if perfect and they made a mistake. So why waste your time arguing their punishment when it has already been made. Why waste your time going off of he say she say s**t when you don’t know the whole situation or what really happened. No matter how disappointed you guys are in Turner he is still going to get his chance at QB. Nothing can take that away and he is an amazing player and I hope that he comes out this year with stats that are off the chart to shut all you up.


p.s FLIPPER that is just disrespectful and shows how ignorant you really are.

[Schadenfreude]

Maybe Turner has Glaucoma.

[BGorDeath]

I'm going to get on the phone RIGHT NOW to Uncle Rico to see if he can help our QB situation out.