the Mac hasbeens..............

[CrazyFan]

Omar, welcome to your new job backing up Big Ben.

Whoa!! Not so fast my friend!! He hasn't even won that job yet. He needs to make it through camp and earn a roster spot first!

[Falconboy]

I wouldn't call any team that beat us last year "hasbeens."

Right, any team, or any players from those teams. If anything, looking back at 2005 with all the talent we had and going 6-5.....we looked like the "hasbeens."

If you read closely , I said former Mac hasbeens and that is what Akron and WMU have been uptill last year.

[BGDrew]

BG had some losing seasons a while ago too, are we hasbeens?

[JoeFalcon]

Whats with all these former Mac hasbeen's having players getting drafted rather high, and before Omar is getting a sniff. Gregg Jennings is he that good for 2nd round? Dixon from Akron is really that much better than our Steve Sanders and Chuck Sharon. This has been really dissapoinging the last several drafts. Every other Mac team even lowly teams are doing better in getting their players drafted than we are. I know its not end all be all, but its odd to think we've had some pretty good players and athletes here at BG and the're not getting a sniff but Akron gets wr get taken in the top 3 rounds WMU getting wr and te taken pretty high too. Its just very dissapointing that we're not holding our own in draftable players coming from BG.

You might want to point the finger at our Spread Offense which is scene as a gimmick offense at the pro level.

I take a particular delight in this label. NFL "Pro-style" offenses are some of the most bland, unimaginative, predictable schemes I've ever seen. It's all about finding a couple of favorable matchups in a few key situations over the course of a game. Almost without exception, there are a few basic plays run by all teams with the difference coming in timing (when they're called) and execution.

Seattle lead the NFL in scoring at 28 points a game while BG notched 33 a game last year and 44 the year before that. Point production supersedes snippy comments from arrogant NFL-types any day of the week for me.

(Also, on Hixon, it helped that Akron coach JD Brookhart was a former volunteer assistant under Mike Shanahan. I've heard BG has strong connections with the Steelers staff which probably worked to Omar's advantage)

[hammb]

I take a particular delight in this label. NFL "Pro-style" offenses are some of the most bland, unimaginative, predictable schemes I've ever seen. It's all about finding a couple of favorable matchups in a few key situations over the course of a game. Almost without exception, there are a few basic plays run by all teams with the difference coming in timing (when they're called) and execution.

Seattle lead the NFL in scoring at 28 points a game while BG notched 33 a game last year and 44 the year before that. Point production supersedes snippy comments from arrogant NFL-types any day of the week for me.

While this is true, I guarantee you that our style of offense would NOT work on the pro level. The defensive athletes are too good. If it would work somebody would've tried it. The closest thing was the run 'n' shoot from the late 80's and those offenses were eventually "figured out" and stopped cold.

[Bleeding Orange]

I take a particular delight in this label. NFL "Pro-style" offenses are some of the most bland, unimaginative, predictable schemes I've ever seen. It's all about finding a couple of favorable matchups in a few key situations over the course of a game. Almost without exception, there are a few basic plays run by all teams with the difference coming in timing (when they're called) and execution.

Seattle lead the NFL in scoring at 28 points a game while BG notched 33 a game last year and 44 the year before that. Point production supersedes snippy comments from arrogant NFL-types any day of the week for me.

While this is true, I guarantee you that our style of offense would NOT work on the pro level. The defensive athletes are too good. If it would work somebody would've tried it. The closest thing was the run 'n' shoot from the late 80's and those offenses were eventually "figured out" and stopped cold.

This doesn't change the fact that, compared to the collegiate game, the pro game is just boring to watch. I like seeing creativity in offensive and defensive schemes. I like seeing multiple sets employed to exploit opponents' gameplans. I don't like seeing the same two or three formations employed for an entire game. I don't like the fact that an entire game is planned around one or two "impact" players on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Right or wrong, this is exactly what I see when I watch an NFL game.

And quite frankly, outside of the quarterback position, it really doesn't seem to me that it would take an immense amount of mental ability to play the pro game. It seems to me that it is much more instinct based than the college game. Now, some may say that this is fun to watch, but I say that kids playing college football have much more to think about than pro players do.

The NFL wasn't always like this. I remember watching it when I was younger and never being bored with it like I am now. For me, it doesn't even come close to NCAA football.

[leardm17]

This doesn't change the fact that, compared to the collegiate game, the pro game is just boring to watch. I like seeing creativity in offensive and defensive schemes. I like seeing multiple sets employed to exploit opponents' gameplans. I don't like seeing the same two or three formations employed for an entire game. I don't like the fact that an entire game is planned around one or two "impact" players on the other side of the line of scrimmage. Right or wrong, this is exactly what I see when I watch an NFL game.

And quite frankly, outside of the quarterback position, it really doesn't seem to me that it would take an immense amount of mental ability to play the pro game. It seems to me that it is much more instinct based than the college game. Now, some may say that this is fun to watch, but I say that kids playing college football have much more to think about than pro players do.

The NFL wasn't always like this. I remember watching it when I was younger and never being bored with it like I am now. For me, it doesn't even come close to NCAA football.

You have to be joking. While I can agree that NCAA basketball is better than NBA basketball, the NFL is a great brand of football. Your thinking capacity of NCAA versus NFL football rationale has no basis or facts to support it. It's fine to prefer NCAA football over the NFL, but watch some quality offesive football teams like Indy, Atlanta, KC, Arizona or San Diego instead of Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. There is a huge entertainment difference between the teams in your viewing area and everyone else.

[Jacobs4Heisman]

You have to be joking. While I can agree that NCAA basketball is better than NBA basketball, the NFL is a great brand of football. Your thinking capacity of NCAA versus NFL football rationale has no basis or facts to support it. It's fine to prefer NCAA football over the NFL, but watch some quality offesive football teams like Indy, Atlanta, KC, Arizona or San Diego instead of Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland and Pittsburgh. There is a huge entertainment difference between the teams in your viewing area and everyone else.

In spite of the run/pass ratio, Pittsburgh actually runs a pretty complex and exciting offense now that Ben has the whole playbook at his disposal. It's sure to be dulled down a little in the trickery department now that ARE is gone, but the Steelers go deep and run trick plays almost as much as any team in the league. And before you label Pittsburgh "not a quality offensive team", check the stats. You'll see Pittsburgh was 8th in offense last year, ahead of Atlanta and Arizona on your list.

NCAA basketball is leaps and bounds above the NBA, but NCAA football is only better than the NFL in the emotion department. The NFL is much more intriguing football because most everyone is so evenly matched. Most college teams might have half of their games be competitive, while Pro games are decided in the fourth quarter 90% of the time I'd guess. I'd say I'm about even on preference between watching a good pro or good college games. I'll agree, nothing stacks up to a great saturday of tailgating and then watching a huge rivalry game that has a championship riding on it. As a whole though, the NFL just has so much to offer -- salary cap intrigue, the draft, the playoffs (that's a whole different thread), etc.

[hammb]

I'm with J4H. I love the pageantry & emotion of college football, but I love the game of NFL football. I watch both pretty extensively, so I cannot say I really prefer one over the other. My favorite football time of the year is the draft...when the 2 games come together & optimism abounds for all teams/players.

[Falconfreak90]

The NFL wasn't always like this. I remember watching it when I was younger and never being bored with it like I am now. For me, it doesn't even come close to NCAA football.

I second that. I used to be a die hard Browns fan...started watching and following them in 1975...up til 1995 when Artie boy took the team and bolted.

It's all about image these days...guys know the cameras are everywhere and aholes like Ray Lewis and TO (Totally Obnoxious) make fools of themselves. The action on the field almost seems secondary to the off field BS. I'm not saying all the NFL players are that way...but I feel the majority of them are. I just don't have the desire to sit thru NFL games.

College ball blows the NFL outta the water, IMO.