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the remark about question marks for OSU..there are not really as many as you think. The Defense is not gonna suffer much of a drop, if they suffer one at all. Kerr transferred from IU, was a stud as a freshman there, over 100 tackles. impressive. The linebackers may be just as good if not better than the big three last year. Larianitus, grant, kerr, Homan, thats a real deep deep impressive group. o'neal and jenkins in the secondary, Ginn could go both ways (played corner in HS). D-line is bigger and the deepest spot on the D.
We dont even need to talk about the Offense because they wil be scoring about 40 a game.
Kicker - Houston gone? so what, one kid booted a 65 yarder perfectly this spring.
I dont care what you guys think. I think the same thing abut you guys because you are very hypocritical. Very! It is rediculous. But of course you do not see it.
so long.
the remark about question marks for OSU..there are not really as many as you think. The Defense is not gonna suffer much of a drop, if they suffer one at all. Kerr transferred from IU, was a stud as a freshman there, over 100 tackles. impressive. The linebackers may be just as good if not better than the big three last year. Larianitus, grant, kerr, Homan, thats a real deep deep impressive group. o'neal and jenkins in the secondary, Ginn could go both ways (played corner in HS). D-line is bigger and the deepest spot on the D.
We dont even need to talk about the Offense because they wil be scoring about 40 a game.
Kicker - Houston gone? so what, one kid booted a 65 yarder perfectly this spring.
I dont care what you guys think. I think the same thing abut you guys because you are very hypocritical. Very! It is rediculous. But of course you do not see it.
so long.
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ginn is not nearly good enough of athlete to go both ways. He has strait away speed with average hands and shy's away from contact. I saw one time last year when Holmes was returning a kick that Ginn ran away from blocking someone and that guy made the tackle. How do you expect him to tackle neone??? He will be a kick returner in the nfl thats it because the corners will just bully him all over the place.
and you are a fool. He doesnt shy away from contact. he has great hands, he was learning the position of WR last year, just started to feel comfortable at end of season.moneymaker02 wrote:ginn is not nearly good enough of athlete to go both ways. He has strait away speed with average hands and shy's away from contact. I saw one time last year when Holmes was returning a kick that Ginn ran away from blocking someone and that guy made the tackle. How do you expect him to tackle neone??? He will be a kick returner in the nfl thats it because the corners will just bully him all over the place.
He doesnt block on kick returns because OSU though didnt do it much last year, likes to leave the option open for a pitch or reverse on the return. how can they do that, if Ginn is blocking?
he shys away from contact when he has the ball, because it is his job to avoid it, run around the players and score those TD's
not athletic enough to go both ways? he played CB in HS as well as a little bit of QB. i guess that shows how much you know
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yeah that's high school, last time I checked college is a little different then high school, a lot of guys went two ways in high school, but can't in collegetekekini wrote:not athletic enough to go both ways? he played CB in HS as well as a little bit of QB
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well get ready fools. he has been goin both ways in spring drills. Just in case.
Jamario o'neal, one of his other buddies from Gville has also been going both ways and is going to be a standout.
yea Ginn dropped a few balls. that comes down to learning the position. he was trying to run and dance around people as he does so well, before he would catch the ball sometimes. thats a concentration issue not bad hands. Did you watch the ND game? If not, there was not a single drop that should have been caught, not a single fumble. there were a couple of long receptions, one for a 60+ yard TD and a 60 + yard TD off the reverse.
he is getting more and more comfortable, he is now the #1 receiver and that is bad news for every opponent. if he is double teamed then Gonzo is just as fast and good as Ginn in my opinion. plus Hall and a couple of freshman who have stood out this spring.
Jamario o'neal, one of his other buddies from Gville has also been going both ways and is going to be a standout.
yea Ginn dropped a few balls. that comes down to learning the position. he was trying to run and dance around people as he does so well, before he would catch the ball sometimes. thats a concentration issue not bad hands. Did you watch the ND game? If not, there was not a single drop that should have been caught, not a single fumble. there were a couple of long receptions, one for a 60+ yard TD and a 60 + yard TD off the reverse.
he is getting more and more comfortable, he is now the #1 receiver and that is bad news for every opponent. if he is double teamed then Gonzo is just as fast and good as Ginn in my opinion. plus Hall and a couple of freshman who have stood out this spring.
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ginn doesnt dance, he just out runs people. and you don't drop balls just because you're learning a position. Gonzo is a way better reciever than ginn, that is a guy who i actually respect on osu. I'll give it to ginn that he has world class STRAIT away speed but can't dance like a reggie bush. Also as my fellow falcon fan already addressed, most people play both ways in high school, playing high school football isnt that big of deal. Also, playing in the slow a$$ big ten, other schools make him look better than he is. If he were playin in the sec or acc, he wouldn't look as fast or nearly as good, it's just a different type of athlete down south.
First of all Ginn is one of the best athletes I've ever seen on a football field. To say the guy is not athletic enough to go both ways is a little off. In fact I think there are a LOT of guys who are athletic enough to go both ways, they just aren't good enough to do it. I'm not convinced Ginn is. You say he went both ways in Spring Drills, which is fine, but he did the same thing last year. Did he see even one single play last year as a CB? That may change this year since they lost so many DBs, but at this point I'll reserve judgement until I see it. I'm still not convinced of Ginn's hands or his football IQ. The guy is a tremendous athlete, but even the ND game was just him using his athleticism more than anything else. The guy has yet to prove much as a football player, IMO.
As for no question marks, I disagree. Anytime the answers to your questions are hot shot recruits who have yet to really play then they are serious questionmarks. Jemario O'Neal was a stud coming out of HS, but that doesn't guarantee that he'll be a star. Kerr is decent, but he's nothing special. He had a 100+ garbage tackles at IU, no impact play
s. He was the only one worth a damn on that defense and somebody had to do the tackling. Larianitus did look good in place of Carpenter last year, but he wasn't as good as Bobby. You're fooling yourself if you think you can lose 3 first rounders & 5 total first day draft picks off a defense and not suffer a dropoff. The DBs were not good last year anyways, and the one that was worth a damn is gone as a top 10 pick...they will miss Whitner's versatility a great deal. He was the only one on the team that could both tackle & cover. You don't lose guys like Carpenter & Hawk and not suffer a dropoff, you just don't. I don't care how good those replacements are because those were two of the best LBs in college football last year...it's not that easy to replace that.
As for the offense, I don't see how you expect them to score 40 a game this year with Tressel still the coach. They scored 40 four times last year, with an average of about 32 ppg. They lost Santonio Holmes who was their best WR last year by far. If Wells is as good as advertised I could see their offense improving because Pittman is only solid, but no star. Smith, Ginn, & Pittman should all improve, but it still seems like a stretch to figure the team as a whole will improve by more than a TD per game after losing their best WR. The big question will be whether Tressel is willing to continue to go with the more wide open scheme that would allow them to score that many. In short, they have the talent to average 40 ppg, but I'll believe that when I see it.
I tell ya one thing right now they better not overlook NIU, because that is a damn good team, one that could win in the 'shoe. Garrett Wolfe against an entirely new cast of LBs could prove interesting.
As for no question marks, I disagree. Anytime the answers to your questions are hot shot recruits who have yet to really play then they are serious questionmarks. Jemario O'Neal was a stud coming out of HS, but that doesn't guarantee that he'll be a star. Kerr is decent, but he's nothing special. He had a 100+ garbage tackles at IU, no impact play
s. He was the only one worth a damn on that defense and somebody had to do the tackling. Larianitus did look good in place of Carpenter last year, but he wasn't as good as Bobby. You're fooling yourself if you think you can lose 3 first rounders & 5 total first day draft picks off a defense and not suffer a dropoff. The DBs were not good last year anyways, and the one that was worth a damn is gone as a top 10 pick...they will miss Whitner's versatility a great deal. He was the only one on the team that could both tackle & cover. You don't lose guys like Carpenter & Hawk and not suffer a dropoff, you just don't. I don't care how good those replacements are because those were two of the best LBs in college football last year...it's not that easy to replace that.
As for the offense, I don't see how you expect them to score 40 a game this year with Tressel still the coach. They scored 40 four times last year, with an average of about 32 ppg. They lost Santonio Holmes who was their best WR last year by far. If Wells is as good as advertised I could see their offense improving because Pittman is only solid, but no star. Smith, Ginn, & Pittman should all improve, but it still seems like a stretch to figure the team as a whole will improve by more than a TD per game after losing their best WR. The big question will be whether Tressel is willing to continue to go with the more wide open scheme that would allow them to score that many. In short, they have the talent to average 40 ppg, but I'll believe that when I see it.
I tell ya one thing right now they better not overlook NIU, because that is a damn good team, one that could win in the 'shoe. Garrett Wolfe against an entirely new cast of LBs could prove interesting.
couple of things about GINN. I was listening to Tressell on the radio today on way home from work. He made some points. As I mentoned a thusand times, Ginn was still learning the position. He really didnt catch on until the last 4 games of the season. notice he had a slow start and really picked up towards the middle of season. He didnt know how to read coverages very well, he didnt know how to adjust, he did not feel comfortable and if you do not feel comfortbal you are not going to play your best.hammb wrote:First of all Ginn is one of the best athletes I've ever seen on a football field. To say the guy is not athletic enough to go both ways is a little off. In fact I think there are a LOT of guys who are athletic enough to go both ways, they just aren't good enough to do it. I'm not convinced Ginn is. You say he went both ways in Spring Drills, which is fine, but he did the same thing last year. Did he see even one single play last year as a CB? That may change this year since they lost so many DBs, but at this point I'll reserve judgement until I see it. I'm still not convinced of Ginn's hands or his football IQ. The guy is a tremendous athlete, but even the ND game was just him using his athleticism more than anything else. The guy has yet to prove much as a football player, IMO.
As for no question marks, I disagree. Anytime the answers to your questions are hot shot recruits who have yet to really play then they are serious questionmarks. Jemario O'Neal was a stud coming out of HS, but that doesn't guarantee that he'll be a star. Kerr is decent, but he's nothing special. He had a 100+ garbage tackles at IU, no impact play
s. He was the only one worth a damn on that defense and somebody had to do the tackling. Larianitus did look good in place of Carpenter last year, but he wasn't as good as Bobby. You're fooling yourself if you think you can lose 3 first rounders & 5 total first day draft picks off a defense and not suffer a dropoff. The DBs were not good last year anyways, and the one that was worth a damn is gone as a top 10 pick...they will miss Whitner's versatility a great deal. He was the only one on the team that could both tackle & cover. You don't lose guys like Carpenter & Hawk and not suffer a dropoff, you just don't. I don't care how good those replacements are because those were two of the best LBs in college football last year...it's not that easy to replace that.
As for the offense, I don't see how you expect them to score 40 a game this year with Tressel still the coach. They scored 40 four times last year, with an average of about 32 ppg. They lost Santonio Holmes who was their best WR last year by far. If Wells is as good as advertised I could see their offense improving because Pittman is only solid, but no star. Smith, Ginn, & Pittman should all improve, but it still seems like a stretch to figure the team as a whole will improve by more than a TD per game after losing their best WR. The big question will be whether Tressel is willing to continue to go with the more wide open scheme that would allow them to score that many. In short, they have the talent to average 40 ppg, but I'll believe that when I see it.
I tell ya one thing right now they better not overlook NIU, because that is a damn good team, one that could win in the 'shoe. Garrett Wolfe against an entirely new cast of LBs could prove interesting.
Against Michigan and against ND especially, he started finding the open holes, he started learning the adjustments, how to get open, FEELING Comfortable. Most importantly he learned how to go to the ball or break off route and get open if Troy has to scramble. Those are all things he was not doing at the beginning of the season.
Believe it or not, a feeling of uncomfortableness will cause you not to play up to your standards. You will be confused at times, you will miss blocks, you will drop balls. It is the same way I was in HS when I played a few games at WR my freshman year.
He also had to get used to taking the hits instead of delivering them as he did as a defensive player in HS. it is an adjustment that he really caught on to late in the season. Yes you can draw your conclusions from mistakes you saw early in the season but if you want a more realistic assessment of what he can do pay attention to the last 4 or 5 games.
I know he dropped the punt @ michigan watch the replay however, he was not even looking at the ball he was looking to make his first move. thats a concentration issue. The other one the ball was just stripped on a good play by Michigan. It happens to everyone, even the hall of famers.
Yes he played both ways last year in the spring, but not in the season. They didnt need him. And i am not saying that he will this year, I am saying he has practiced there incase they need the help. And he can play both ways, I truley believe that. He is definately every bit as athletic if not more than Gamble and he played over 100 snaps a game playing both ways.
You dont see them scoring 40 points a game because of tressell being the coach? OK i know the histroy, score low and win on D. I see where you are comming from. BUT, this is a different offense than you are used to seeing. All i am saying is do not be suprised if they do. I think it can happen.
The defense will not be experiencing much of a drop off. I dont think there will be one at all as far as athleticism, speed, strength etc.. The thing they will have a drop off is experience. important but if they limit the mistakes, and lets face Tressell defenses do not make many, then they should be fine. The O has the power to bail the D out if they need to. It is simply a different OSU type of team then you are used to since Tressell came on board. The secondary may be better than last years to be honest.
Tressell does not overlook teams. he is aware of wolfe. Wolfe is used to running around smaller, slower players. he may hold up for a half or 3 quarters and have a decent game but they can not run all day, the d line is the biggest and most experienced part of the team, he will have his troubles. I expect they will score some points, but not a lot.
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