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Getting pushed around isn't always a function of size. Witness the career of Sumo wrestler Konishiki. He weighed over 500lbs yet never achieved a rank higher than Ozeki. Guys hundreds of pounds less pushed his fat ass all over the place and made Yokozuna in no time.
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I bow to your knowledge of Sumo wrestling. Many Many Sumo wrestlers have made it in the NFL.
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You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
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Flipper wrote:You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
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Flipper wrote:You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
There you go again. If you dont have a clear argument. First make an argument seperate than your own opinion. Then attack the person you are in a discussion with. Whats next on the Flipper response Matrix?
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Size is not as important in a 4-3 defense. A premium is placed on penetration and athleticism on the d-line in a 4-3.

The fact we were small was not the whole problem last year. The fact that we were not talented or deep was more of a factor than size. I know a dude that's 310. We could stick him on the DL and watch him piss himself as he gets his nuts pushed around by O-lineman that are 280. Size is part of it, but it isn't nearly everything.


Does Falconboy or anybody else around here actually think that that the coaching staff had this discussion?

Brandon: "I was thinking of moving Curtis to backup center"

Lovett: "He's a much better d-lineman -- in fact, I think he'll save our defense this year"

Brandon: "Yeah, but I'm itching to get fired"

Lovett: "Good point -- let's move him"
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Size does matter on any DL and it matter a lot! The catch is that it is only to a certain extent. Yes, a 500lb DL may not be any better than a 280lb DL, but since we are in the sense of exaggerating, that 280lb DL would be a lot better than a 120lb DL. So yes, BG does need to add size to the DL because its the biggest weakness on the team and are currently under the average size of most of the top DL units in the nation!
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Size is not as important in a 4-3 defense. A premium is placed on penetration and athleticism on the d-line in a 4-3.

The fact we were small was not the whole problem last year. The fact that we were not talented or deep was more of a factor than size. I know a dude that's 310. We could stick him on the DL and watch him piss himself as he gets his nuts pushed around by O-lineman that are 280. Size is part of it, but it isn't nearly everything.


Does Falconboy or anybody else around here actually think that that the coaching staff had this discussion?

Brandon: "I was thinking of moving Curtis to backup center"

Lovett: "He's a much better d-lineman -- in fact, I think he'll save our defense this year"

Brandon: "Yeah, but I'm itching to get fired"

Lovett: "Good point -- let's move him"
The idea that we can not question a coaches decision is absurd. Many people make livings off of doing just that. I do not mean to present the idea that I am smarter than the coaches. The coaches are clearly more knowledgable with this team. That does not mean that coaches are infallible and that the decision to move someone from a very small very thin line to a deep line can not be questioned. Of course Brandon had a reason. We have not heard that reason. It may be a great reason. That does not mean that we can not question the reason.

Another question. Why isn't Winovich being redshirted? He clearly is a stud of a football player without a position. Why not give him a year to find that position? He could add another dimension to the offense with a FB/H-Back/TE. That is the best case scenario.
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Jacobs4Heisman wrote:Size is not as important in a 4-3 defense. A premium is placed on penetration and athleticism on the d-line in a 4-3.

The fact we were small was not the whole problem last year. The fact that we were not talented or deep was more of a factor than size. I know a dude that's 310. We could stick him on the DL and watch him piss himself as he gets his nuts pushed around by O-lineman that are 280. Size is part of it, but it isn't nearly everything.


Does Falconboy or anybody else around here actually think that that the coaching staff had this discussion?

Brandon: "I was thinking of moving Curtis to backup center"

Lovett: "He's a much better d-lineman -- in fact, I think he'll save our defense this year"

Brandon: "Yeah, but I'm itching to get fired"

Lovett: "Good point -- let's move him"
The idea that we can not question a coaches decision is absurd. Many people make livings off of doing just that. I do not mean to present the idea that I am smarter than the coaches. The coaches are clearly more knowledgable with this team. That does not mean that coaches are infallible and that the decision to move someone from a very small very thin line to a deep line can not be questioned. Of course Brandon had a reason. We have not heard that reason. It may be a great reason. That does not mean that we can not question the reason.

Another question. Why isn't Winovich being redshirted? He clearly is a stud of a football player without a position. Why not give him a year to find that position? He could add another dimension to the offense with a FB/H-Back/TE. That is the best case scenario.
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MatelaAntwerp wrote:
Flipper wrote:You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
There you go again. If you dont have a clear argument. First make an argument seperate than your own opinion. Then attack the person you are in a discussion with. Whats next on the Flipper response Matrix?
No...you displayed an inability to conceptually grasp a simple argument (size is not an efficient predictor of effective play on defense) and continued to reiterate the same argument (size is an efficient predictor of success on defense) without being able to cite any evidence to support your argument. (unless you count the logical phallacy "we were small, we were bad, we were bad because we were small"....that's a bit like saying "I tapdanced before sunrise. The sun rose. Therefore the sun rose because I tapdanced") So in the face of our circular argument, I decided to introduce elements that appeared unrelated (Sumo and George Clinton) in an effort to short circuit the process. I call it my "Bozo response matrix"

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Flipper wrote:I call it my "Bozo response matrix"

Thanks for playing along....
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Flipper wrote:
MatelaAntwerp wrote:
Flipper wrote:You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
There you go again. If you dont have a clear argument. First make an argument seperate than your own opinion. Then attack the person you are in a discussion with. Whats next on the Flipper response Matrix?
No...you displayed an inability to conceptually grasp a simple argument (size is not an efficient predictor of effective play on defense) and continued to reiterate the same argument (size is an efficient predictor of success on defense) without being able to cite any evidence to support your argument. (unless you count the logical phallacy "we were small, we were bad, we were bad because we were small"....that's a bit like saying "I tapdanced before sunrise. The sun rose. Therefore the sun rose because I tapdanced") So in the face of our circular argument, I decided to introduce elements that appeared unrelated (Sumo and George Clinton) in an effort to short circuit the process. I call it my "Bozo response matrix"

Thanks for playing along....
The other arguments seemed completely obvious save to someone completely obtuse.

1. Larger objects are more difficult to move.
2. Name one DT in the NFL under 285 pounds. The NFL is a for profit product. Teams try to win, to gain fans and money. If the best Defensive Tackles go on to the NFL and no defensive tackles in the NFL weigh under 285. It would seem desirous to have larger, less easily moved defenders on the DL.
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falconboy wrote:Right.....Curtis would make a better center at 270 than all of our recruited offensive line players that are 285-295lbs. Sorry , I'd have to see that before I believe that.
It's pretty common for a center to be the smallest guy on a line, isn't it?

I've always assumed it is a combination of (a) that skill set needed to successfully snap the ball and (b) good feet, to work up a double team to the left or right.

If this guy was being moved over to be a tackle or a guard, I'd be a bit more concerned. But center? A good center is hard to find, I always thought.
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TG1996 wrote:
Flipper wrote:You display a shocking lack of intellectual flexibility. As the great philospher George Clinton once said, "free your mind and your ass will follow"
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