Pit OMAR

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:00 pm

Well tonight Omar had some good time in the game. he produced a field goal drive, and tht was it 3-11 for 28 yards passing. the stats on this are not entirely his fault, but in the end he is the QB. Bo¥d was in after Omar with about 6 min left. His first go was 3 and out. both Omar and boyd have taken several sacks. Omar did look good under center and seemed to have a better grasp of the o, good improvement, all you can ask for.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:05 pm

3 for 11? Yuck, thats almost as bad as Eli.

BGSUfalcons · Post by **BGSUfalcons** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:07 pm

Those aren't Omar's stats. There was a mistake with the stats on espn.com, cbssportsline.com, etc and some of Boyd's stats were attributed to Omar. Omar was 3-7 (still not great) for 28 yards.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sat Aug 19, 2006 11:14 pm

Yeah I saw that, 3 for 7 isnt as bad. Thats not really enough passes to complain about being under 50%. Boyd's stats were like 4 of 14 for 33yards. Now that is pretty bad!

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:52 am

The Steelers' own rookie quarterback, Omar Jacobs, guided his offense to a 32-yard Jeff Reed field goal that cut Minnesota's lead to 17-10 in the third quarter.
Jacobs threw two sweet passes on that drive. One, a 19-yard completion to rookie tight end Jon Dekker, came off a bootleg. On the other, he rolled away from pressure to his left on third down at the Vikings' 14 and threw a perfect pass between two defenders in the end zone along the left sideline -- and Lee Mays could not handle it.

Looks like Omar had a TD dropped. He had three series to work with and was able to produce a FG. He had two illegal procedure calls on two seperate series. QB can have a hand in those offensive lineman starting early.

I am going to watch the replay at 5 p.m. today on NFL Network. Omar played the entire 3rd quarter and Boyd played the 4th.

Nati Hutch · Post by **Nati Hutch** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 1:35 pm

From the Post-Gazette:

The Steelers' own rookie quarterback, Omar Jacobs, guided his offense to a 32-yard Jeff Reed field goal that cut Minnesota's lead to 17-10 in the third quarter.

Jacobs threw two sweet passes on that drive. One, a 19-yard completion to rookie tight end Jon Dekker, came off a bootleg. On the other, he rolled away from pressure to his left on third down at the Vikings' 14 and threw a perfect pass between two defenders in the end zone along the left sideline -- and Lee Mays could not handle it.

I think Ben is just about done for the pre season, and game 3 is typically the big one for those trying to make the team. Omar will probably get plenty of PT next week. Hopefully...

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 3:45 pm

I think just the opposite. The third game is when teams usually like to stretch the starters out a little and have them play about half the game. Then, the last perseason game is when you you are cautious and try to keep them fresh and healthy for the start of the season the following week.

I would thinki Omar's playing time would cut this week. The Steelers most likely have already made a decision on the QB position after two games. Baring injury, they are probably all set on the roster at QB.

Dayons_Den · Post by **Dayons_Den** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 5:08 pm

MACMAN · Post by **MACMAN** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 7:44 pm

in the game, on sports talk, and the web the¥ have all stated, I tend to agree with this one that Omar will make the 53.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 8:51 pm

Omar looked downright terrible on his first couple of series. He had trouble in the huddle, and was off on nearly all of his passes. After the int and taking over around midfield, Omar looked like Omar. The pass to Mays in the endzone was a masterpiece. Dropped right in between two defenders right to his hands.

The good news for Omar is that Boyd looked even worse. There is no way the Steelers could think that Boyd can ever be an effective QB. I believe that Pittsburgh will follow through with the strategy they had in mind when they drafted Omar. That is, to groom him to be the long term (next year and beyond) backup to Ben, as well as a possibly very valuable trading chip. Think a less polished Matt Schaub -- a necessary piece of the puzzle when you have a brittle franchise QB like Vick or Ben.

I think next week's game is a national ABC telecast, so everyone should see some Omar in the second half. I hope he can impress.

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 9:46 pm

I watched the whole game on NFL Network. Omar really struggled the first two series. First play was exactly like last week...short pass to get him started was way off target. Then, he can't get the play called in time and has to take a time out the second play into the second half. Not good. He also gets a false start penalty and sacked in this series. Ouch!

Second series wasn't much better though he did compete a short pass on third down for a first down in the series.

Last series he moved the team. He made a nice scramble and competed a 19-yard pass to his tight end while rolling outside the pocket. He did drop a nice pass between two defenders that could have easliy been caught. If it had been, his stat line would have been very similar to last week.

Omar continues to struggle with the mental side of things. When he sits back in the shotgun and lets his instincts take over, he is the Omar we all know. Right now he is a "project" to say the least. No ways he sees the field this year for the Steelers. If Ben or Batch went down, the Steelers could not go into a game with Omar as the back-up at this point. A first-team defense with all its scheming would give him fits.

I forsee a practice squad spot for Omar this year. I don't think he has shown enough for another to take him off their practice squad. That team would have to carry him on their 53 man roster for the reminder of the year. Omar may really benefit from a year in Europe next Spring.

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:00 pm

STEELERS PLAYERS

Omar Jacobs:

How would you assess your performance tonight?

Started off a little shaky, but got better. I got some reps in – I did some things wrong, but that's part of the game. I just need to learn from it and get better every time I get out there.

What can you take away from tonight?

Oh, man, lots of things. I'm still a rookie, that whole thing – things are just flying around, and I'm just trying to learn the offense. That's what I'm working on right now.

From Steelers' Web site...

mmisbg · Post by **mmisbg** » Sun Aug 20, 2006 10:03 pm

I'm not going to get on here and say that Omar is doing great, but I don't think that they will put him on their practice squad.

First of all, it is true that Boyd is looking bad, and he doesn't have the rookie mistakes excuse. Omar's stats aren't great, and Boyd's are worse.

Second of all, there are teams out there that know they are fighting lost causes with their 3rd string QB's. Chicago comes to mind. Heck, Rex Grossman is looking terrible in my opinion. If the whole Wide Reciever thing falls through, their WR's have healthy careers as Cornerbacks building for them. I won't go into why Greise should be the starter, but I will say that a "project" QB with good accuracy is a heck of a lot better than Kyle Orton.

The announcers at the start of the game said it is likely that Omar will make the 53, and I agree. I think, and I think the steelers agree, that Omar will be fine once he gets used to their system.

Once again, I prescribe patience. This won't happen overnight. Remember, Big Ben was their first round pick, and they made him their 3rd string. Once they had no choice but to play him, he threw an interception in the first drive in 60% of the games they played. It happens.

Go Falcons!

Rollo83 · Post by **Rollo83** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:18 am

All rookie quarterbacks have to learn the following...

1. playbook
2. terminology
3. personnel packages of his offense
4. defense recognition at line of scrimmage
5. to go through his read option progressions on pass plays

Hell, anyone is going to struggle at times with all of this...I don't care who you are. The thing that is concerning with Omar is that he is struggling with 1, 2 and maybe 3. Most rookies get over those hurdles rather quickly and struggle more with 4 and 5.

Omar is still having a hell of a time getting the play recognized from the sideline (wrist band), calling the play in the huddle, and getting the team to the line of scrimmage.

Until he can gets this stuff down, his performance is going to suffer. Once it becomes second nature, his instincts will take over and his god given talent will begin to become evident. Lets hope he gets the chance to show what he really has. NFL teams are historically not very patience.

Nati Hutch · Post by **Nati Hutch** » Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:24 am

The thing is, he's being candid with his comments. When asked if he was struggling, he's answered honestly and said yes. Not that that matters in making the team, but it's pretty refreshing to hear, rather than the same recycled statements.