an experience made me appreciate this BG football board

Falcon30 · Post by **Falcon30** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:13 am

Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:
Falcon30 wrote:What kind of cars do your athletes drive?
How is this question at all germane to the topic at hand?

I have no idea what cars they drive. I suspect some have very nice cars acquired under "suspicious" circumstances, and I suspect some have some real junkers... much like any other institution... I think you'd be wise to remember that the NCAA was here going over each and every OSU activity with a fine toothed comb only a year ago and found only 1 thing "wrong" (with football) and that was something OSU self reported - Troy getting 500 from a booster.

no, not much like every other institution.

Bleeding Orange · Post by **Bleeding Orange** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:17 am

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:18 am

Falcon30 wrote:
Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:
Falcon30 wrote:What kind of cars do your athletes drive?
How is this question at all germane to the topic at hand?

I have no idea what cars they drive. I suspect some have very nice cars acquired under "suspicious" circumstances, and I suspect some have some real junkers... much like any other institution... I think you'd be wise to remember that the NCAA was here going over each and every OSU activity with a fine toothed comb only a year ago and found only 1 thing "wrong" (with football) and that was something OSU self reported - Troy getting 500 from a booster.
no, not much like every other institution.

Actually, he's probably right about that one. You would be surprised at what "boosters" do to help athletes everywhere. You really would.

Buckeyeskickbuttocks · Thu Aug 31, 2006 10:31 am

Thank you....

I suspect an equal outrage for the 10s of thousands of dollars Dwayne Jarrett (WR, USC) recieved from Matt Lienart's father to pay rent, yes? I should also note... Troy took 500 from a booster and sat two games (The alamo bowl and the season opener last year against Miami) Jarrett's punishment? No games missed.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:16 pm

Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:Thank you....

I suspect an equal outrage for the 10s of thousands of dollars Dwayne Jarrett (WR, USC) recieved from Matt Lienart's father to pay rent, yes? I should also note... Troy took 500 from a booster and sat two games (The alamo bowl and the season opener last year against Miami) Jarrett's punishment? No games missed.

Did the NCAA ever rule on that though?

Oh, by the way, BG's never been found guilty (and if I'm not mistaken, ever investigated) of NCAA rules violations.

Buckeyeskickbuttocks · Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:57 pm

BGDrew wrote:
Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:Thank you....

I suspect an equal outrage for the 10s of thousands of dollars Dwayne Jarrett (WR, USC) recieved from Matt Lienart's father to pay rent, yes? I should also note... Troy took 500 from a booster and sat two games (The alamo bowl and the season opener last year against Miami) Jarrett's punishment? No games missed.
Did the NCAA ever rule on that though?

Oh, by the way, BG's never been found guilty (and if I'm not mistaken, ever investigated) of NCAA rules violations.

Jarrett was "re-instated" in August.

As BG being investigated, I cannot find any info which would confirm or deny that... I'm inclined to think the compliance office has been around, but that's not because I think BG is dirty, I just think it's the nature of college athletics.. All you need is for some Toledo fan to allege some sort of wrong doing and the NCAA will do at least a preliminary look in to it. (Usually the school will do the looking, and report their finding to the NCAA, actually)

I also could not find if BG has ever been "guilty" of NCAA violations, but my instinct is that BG has not... In fact, I think only Alabama and SMU have ever been "found guilty" as institutions. In that respect, it's important to note, Ohio State has never been found guilty either... Troy Smith was... But, more to your point, I'm not aware of any BG player being "guilty" either... but then, it must be remembered, I don't know BG football history all that well. I can't say it has or hasn't happened to BG

Ineedbotox · Post by **Ineedbotox** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:12 pm

I think what BuckKickButt is saying is regardless of what NCAA investigations/ violations go on, in big time college football there are things that go on that are questionable. I can confirm that this happens based on personal knowledge. Athletes get jobs they don't have to actually work at during the summer, and people let them "borrow" expensive things. It happens all over the place. It doesn't mean it is a good thing, but it happens.

Buckeyeskickbuttocks · Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:27 pm

Ineedbotox wrote:I think what BuckKickButt is saying is regardless of what NCAA investigations/ violations go on, in big time college football there are things that go on that are questionable. I can confirm that this happens based on personal knowledge. Athletes get jobs they don't have to actually work at during the summer, and people let them "borrow" expensive things. It happens all over the place. It doesn't mean it is a good thing, but it happens.

Unfortunately, yes. I just think it's time to end this charade that college football... or basketball.. or athletics in general is something it's not. There is nothing "pure" about it, if there ever was.

I love college sports, football in particular, but it's not becuase I think the idea of "student athlete" has meaning, or because I think it's not corruptable.

OilerBuck · Post by **OilerBuck** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:36 pm

This entire thread stinks of penis envy.

Let's examine the facts:

1. A fan of a team (a MAC team, mind you) that Ohio State plays this year finds a Buckeye site to offer his disgust at the Buckeye's lofty preseason ranking.

2. Aforementioned fan happens to avidly follow a fellow school in Ohio, who's historical success has been considerable lower than that of Ohio State.

3. After signing on under a misleading monkier for the sole purpose of making transparent remarks about Ohio State (on a Buckeye board, mind you) and starting arguments with anyone who will take the bait...he is banned.

4. Aforementioned "fan" subsequently returns to his own fan board for the purpose of bashing Buckeye football fans. Suggesting that his "bias-free" sociological experiment has been a success in proving all Buckeye fans as arrogant and delusional.

5. When confronted on his own fan board, the natives act in a very predictable manner, immediately resorting to challenging statements about Ohio State education and largly unproven scandals (which may or may not have occured).

A little advice, in response to this thread:

1. If you aren't going to be honest about who you are and your motives, don't call out other fans for their faults. Every fan board is biased. Unfortunately you didn't bother checking it out before making blanket assumptions: http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/show ... hp?t=20188

2. Living in Ohio, I realize you've probably had to take crap about Ohio State's football superiority your entire life. Get used to it. OSU has resources that BG will never be able to touch. Not just in athletics, either. BG is a fine school, but the comparison is apples to oranges. If OSU spent the exact same percentage of their revenue on athletics as BG did (not sure what the figures ARE), it would still be a significantly larger budget. OSU provides some spectacular educational programs. To bash the University, as a whole, is ignorant at best.

3. In the football department...Green isn't a good color on you. Check your envy at the door. You are Bowling-freaking-Green, a MAC powerhouse and a below-average Big Ten team at best.

You obviously have a lot of anti-OSU bias. This is likely due to a lifetime of bad experiences and an inferiority complex the size of our stadium. Your bitterness and obsession is sad, really. Maybe you should work on drumming up support for the Falcons instead of bashing Buckeyes...seriously, y'all are on the verge of DI-AA attendance.

Thanks.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:41 pm

The anti-osu bias stems from many of us having to deal with arrogant fans like you. Now be on your way back to the osu board.

Thanks

Buckeyeskickbuttocks · Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:57 pm

Tossing out the lable arrogant probably plays well here (as it would on HawkTalk, I might add) but where exactly did Oiler say something in error? Facts are just that. Now, you could try and explain why the facts are misleading, etc... but throwing your hands up and calling someone 'arrogant' for outlining his opinion smacks of defeatism. On the other hand, maybe it's just 'cause you're so close to Toledo.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:02 pm

Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:Tossing out the lable arrogant probably plays well here (as it would on HawkTalk, I might add) but where exactly did Oiler say something in error? Facts are just that. Now, you could try and explain why the facts are misleading, etc... but throwing your hands up and calling someone 'arrogant' for outlining his opinion smacks of defeatism. On the other hand, maybe it's just 'cause you're so close to Toledo.

When you rub "facts" in someone's face over and over again, it turns into arrogance very quickly.

Fact: I can beat my mom in a footrace.

That doesn't mean I tell her she's slow and jealous of my speed in a smarmy voice every time I talk to her.

Tricky_Falcon · Post by **Tricky_Falcon** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:02 pm

I didn't read the book of a post that he wrote. You osu fans like doing that. All I had to do is read the last paragraph and that's all that I needed to read.

It appears you and your buddies like to go to MAC boards to ruffle up a few feathers. Like I said in my other post, go back to the buckeye board.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:14 pm

OilerBuck wrote:This entire thread stinks of penis envy.

Let's examine the facts:

1. A fan of a team (a MAC team, mind you) that Ohio State plays this year finds a Buckeye site to offer his disgust at the Buckeye's lofty preseason ranking.

2. Aforementioned fan happens to avidly follow a fellow school in Ohio, who's historical success has been considerable lower than that of Ohio State.

3. After signing on under a misleading monkier for the sole purpose of making transparent remarks about Ohio State (on a Buckeye board, mind you) and starting arguments with anyone who will take the bait...he is banned.

4. Aforementioned "fan" subsequently returns to his own fan board for the purpose of bashing Buckeye football fans. Suggesting that his "bias-free" sociological experiment has been a success in proving all Buckeye fans as arrogant and delusional.

5. When confronted on his own fan board, the natives act in a very predictable manner, immediately resorting to challenging statements about Ohio State education and largly unproven scandals (which may or may not have occured).

A little advice, in response to this thread:

1. If you aren't going to be honest about who you are and your motives, don't call out other fans for their faults. Every fan board is biased. Unfortunately you didn't bother checking it out before making blanket assumptions: http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/show ... hp?t=20188

2. Living in Ohio, I realize you've probably had to take crap about Ohio State's football superiority your entire life. Get used to it. OSU has resources that BG will never be able to touch. Not just in athletics, either. BG is a fine school, but the comparison is apples to oranges. If OSU spent the exact same percentage of their revenue on athletics as BG did (not sure what the figures ARE), it would still be a significantly larger budget. OSU provides some spectacular educational programs. To bash the University, as a whole, is ignorant at best.

3. In the football department...Green isn't a good color on you. Check your envy at the door. You are Bowling-freaking-Green, a MAC powerhouse and a below-average Big Ten team at best.

You obviously have a lot of anti-OSU bias. This is likely due to a lifetime of bad experiences and an inferiority complex the size of our stadium. Your bitterness and obsession is sad, really. Maybe you should work on drumming up support for the Falcons instead of bashing Buckeyes...seriously, y'all are on the verge of DI-AA attendance.

Thanks.

You are the second person to say I was making an experiemtn. I dont remember ever saying that. I went there to have duiscussion about OSU and how I thought they were overrated. I wanted discussion and reason from some educated OSU fans. I did not find that.

Globetrotter · Post by **Globetrotter** » Thu Aug 31, 2006 3:16 pm

Buckeyeskickbuttocks wrote:Tossing out the lable arrogant probably plays well here (as it would on HawkTalk, I might add) but where exactly did Oiler say something in error? Facts are just that. Now, you could try and explain why the facts are misleading, etc... but throwing your hands up and calling someone 'arrogant' for outlining his opinion smacks of defeatism. On the other hand, maybe it's just 'cause you're so close to Toledo.

OK...How did anyone on your board try to explain how my opnions were wrong? Are you really following people to boards now nad then accusing them of doing the exact things you do. And how did you get here anyway?