Not necessarily. It depends on how it is written and the maturity of the tone of the email. If everyone whines and accuses, it won't be effective, but if people speak with respect, it can! If it is done in a professional manner, it can be effective. I do think our band director needs to make a phone call to their director and point out a few things, however. Proper etiquetteThe Niz wrote:Emailing them and telling them how bad they are might sink us to their level. However I really wish someone could teach them some proper edicate on performance and respect.
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"Regarding BGSU, I would think their biggest strength is that they never give up, They never slow down and they battle hard even after the other team scores. We have to be on our game and never, ever take the foot off the gas for a second."
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"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
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"BG was relentless. It's like they know that a good first pass on the breakout from a defenseman will almost always result in an odd-man rush against them - but they go in anyway and dare you to make that pass. All three of their goals were just grit and effort. That's a team any fan can be proud to support...they give all they've got."
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#NeverGiveUp
#NeverSurrender
#Relentless
#Resiliant
Thanks for catching that oneFalcon Fanatic wrote:Not necessarily. It depends on how it is written and the maturity of the tone of the email. If everyone whines and accuses, it won't be effective, but if people speak with respect, it can! If it is done in a professional manner, it can be effective. I do think our band director needs to make a phone call to their director and point out a few things, however. Proper etiquetteThe Niz wrote:Emailing them and telling them how bad they are might sink us to their level. However I really wish someone could teach them some proper edicate on performance and respect.can be taught!!
Yeah right girl!
Oorah!
Oorah!
I'm a student at BG, and I was at the game, and from what I've read,
I'll probably get flamed for this but oh well. Here are my thoughts
about the Band (keeping in mind that I used to be in the FMB, and did 4 years of HS marching band as well):
I thought that the Wisky Band wasn't that bad, there were a lot of
things that I thought that they did well, that the FMB could have
improved upon, and vise versa. First of all, you could HEAR the Wisky
band. In a Stadium of that size, you need to project power, which is
something that they did. I could barely hear the FMB from the Dawg Pound. I didn't really understand what songs the Wisky Band was playing of course, but I could hear them, so I imagine there is a nice middle between the two styles.
Another thing that I think hurt the FMB is the music that was chosen/is chosen
to perform. In my opinion, as well as some others, choosing music that
was originally done in an orchestra or a concert band, and converting it
to marching band style music, is not something that works too well.
There is a reason that those songs were composed the way they were, with
the instruments in the orchestra, etc, they weren't meant to be played
on a marching field. It just doesn't sound as nice, and doesn't get the
crowd that excited either, even if they are recognizable songs. The marching band should be helping excite the crowd, and helping them pump up, not trying to perform musical masterpieces. I always got the impression that Dr. Hayward tried to conduct the marching band more as a concert band, but that's just my thoughts.
The marching style, I'm divided upon, because at times it doesn't seem like the FMB is marching really, but at the same time, I really like the style the FMB has in pre-game, it seems more intense, as well as more like marching, and exciting.
Now musically, the FMB is more talented than Wisky, I'm sure, but in certain situations, the FMB could learn a few things from the Wisky band. Again, just my thoughts as a student at the game, and from someone who was in the band.
I'll probably get flamed for this but oh well. Here are my thoughts
about the Band (keeping in mind that I used to be in the FMB, and did 4 years of HS marching band as well):
I thought that the Wisky Band wasn't that bad, there were a lot of
things that I thought that they did well, that the FMB could have
improved upon, and vise versa. First of all, you could HEAR the Wisky
band. In a Stadium of that size, you need to project power, which is
something that they did. I could barely hear the FMB from the Dawg Pound. I didn't really understand what songs the Wisky Band was playing of course, but I could hear them, so I imagine there is a nice middle between the two styles.
Another thing that I think hurt the FMB is the music that was chosen/is chosen
to perform. In my opinion, as well as some others, choosing music that
was originally done in an orchestra or a concert band, and converting it
to marching band style music, is not something that works too well.
There is a reason that those songs were composed the way they were, with
the instruments in the orchestra, etc, they weren't meant to be played
on a marching field. It just doesn't sound as nice, and doesn't get the
crowd that excited either, even if they are recognizable songs. The marching band should be helping excite the crowd, and helping them pump up, not trying to perform musical masterpieces. I always got the impression that Dr. Hayward tried to conduct the marching band more as a concert band, but that's just my thoughts.
The marching style, I'm divided upon, because at times it doesn't seem like the FMB is marching really, but at the same time, I really like the style the FMB has in pre-game, it seems more intense, as well as more like marching, and exciting.
Now musically, the FMB is more talented than Wisky, I'm sure, but in certain situations, the FMB could learn a few things from the Wisky band. Again, just my thoughts as a student at the game, and from someone who was in the band.
Tom, I agree with you on most of that. The only thing I can say is I was standing right in front of the whisky band and their sound while loud was horrible. I am in the FMB for the thrill of pregame! The chair step is a beautiful and exciting thing. Every once in a while half-time gets me pumped up but that's only at certain key moments. I've always been a show band person and I always will be. I think Half-time would be a lot better and a lot more exciting for students if certain things like the bow, the fight song, and chairing off the field were brought back, and I've talked to Dr. Hayward several times about all three and she doesn't really seem to be excited about any of the three.
Yeah right girl!
Oorah!
Oorah!
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I would just like to remind everyone that the FMB has always been, and will always be, known for their symphonic sound.
Just throwin that out there!
I went to see you guys at the Brecksville game and you sounded and looked phenomenal! That company front looked amazing!
The Badger band has NOTHING on us!
Just throwin that out there!
I went to see you guys at the Brecksville game and you sounded and looked phenomenal! That company front looked amazing!
The Badger band has NOTHING on us!
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I am going to have to back up Schadenfreude on this one. I was sitting in section 133, row 9 and when you played in the stands I could hardly hear that you were playing, let alone what you were playing. That has to do with your seating placement. The band should have been in the angle on the other side of the dawg pound. That would have had your sound pointing right at the home croud. It is the same problem as in Doyt Perry. You are pointing towards the visitors sideline, thus your sound is amazing there. But for those of us on the West side (especially us all the way at the top on the 50 who like to see all the forms during halftime) we have a very difficult time hearing the band. Don't take this as a knock on the band itself. This is a logistical problem that amazes me no one has fixed. Hopefully acoustics have been taken into account during the design phase of the SEBO construction. I think it will make a vast improvement when you can point to the home side and play. As far as halftime is concerneded, I FALCON LOVED IT!!!!!The Niz wrote:We just watched our video of us during rehearsal today, and if you had problems hearing us I'd have to say you might want to get that checked.Schadenfreude wrote:I was near the 50 and the Wisconsin band was a ton louder.
I had a really difficult time hearing the BGSU band.
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BGSU Brothers Sing On
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"ROLL ALONG!"
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The BGSU Men's Chorus
America's Finest Singing Machine
BGSU Brothers Sing On
Charge on Colts, Charge on!
"ROLL ALONG!"
The stands seating is an issue we all have a lot of greif over, even Dr. Hayward. Next year we'll be pointing directly at everyone from the North side of the stadium with no wind to carry away our sound.
As for Schade not hearing us, I thought he meant during half-time, which was just rediculous and I couldn't understand that at all.
As for Schade not hearing us, I thought he meant during half-time, which was just rediculous and I couldn't understand that at all.
Yeah right girl!
Oorah!
Oorah!
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As for the game, I heard BG's band better - I was in the opposite end-zone in the cheap seats. I was 4 sections form UW band.The Niz wrote:The stands seating is an issue we all have a lot of greif over, even Dr. Hayward. Next year we'll be pointing directly at everyone from the North side of the stadium with no wind to carry away our sound.
As for Schade not hearing us, I thought he meant during half-time, which was just rediculous and I couldn't understand that at all.
During half time, i was on the BG side, so I didn't hear Wisconsin that well.
I sure couldn't understand what they were playing.
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we couldn't figure it out at half time, either...and we were right in front of them!Falcon30 wrote:As for the game, I heard BG's band better - I was in the opposite end-zone in the cheap seats. I was 4 sections form UW band.The Niz wrote:The stands seating is an issue we all have a lot of greif over, even Dr. Hayward. Next year we'll be pointing directly at everyone from the North side of the stadium with no wind to carry away our sound.
As for Schade not hearing us, I thought he meant during half-time, which was just rediculous and I couldn't understand that at all.
During half time, i was on the BG side, so I didn't hear Wisconsin that well.
I sure couldn't understand what they were playing.
i did catch a brief melodic line from beer barrel polka, though during like the 3rd quarter...but that was it.
