Post game quotes

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:20 pm

The positive take on "setting the tone for the season" is this: Faced with adversity, the team dug deep and found it had a little bit more in the tank,

Yes, it was Buffalo. But we also know the problem: Special teams.

A year ago, there were issues all over the place: Our defense was pourous, our passing game wasn't clicking like it should have -- much more complex issues than what we face right now.

Special teams ought to be relatively easy to fix. I'd rather try to figure that out than the other things.

If special teams play adequately, Bowling Green wins that game in regulation by 18 points.

Some of you are hoping for 70-7 shellackings of yore, but that isn't realistic. Not with the youth of this team and not with the offense we are running. That said, we have the potential to be nearly as good as those teams, and our defense is probably already better.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:36 pm

Schadenfreude wrote:
Special teams ought to be relatively easy to fix. I'd rather try to figure that out than the other things.

I agree Schad, except for this. I also think that our offense has some serious potential if the coaches would unleash it, and I like what I've seen from the defense so far (compared to last year).

As far as STs, if they were so easy to fix, why wasn't it done in the offseason? Of course the coaches knew it was out biggest weakness since the Wisky game last year. It wasn't fixed last year, it wasn't fixed in the offseason, and I see no signs of it being fixed yet this year.

This leaves two possibilities:

1). The coaching staff is incapable of teaching the basics of special teams to the players

Or

2). The coaching staff just plain doesn't pay attention to special teams.

Both of these scenarios are completely unacceptable and are prime reasons for termination IMO.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:54 pm

Jacobs4Heisman wrote:As far as STs, if they were so easy to fix, why wasn't it done in the offseason?

I'm sure Brandon thought he had.

He brought in Rojas. He brought in Big Bird. That addressed, what, 80 percent of our bitchin' right there? Our bitchin' last year was largely about the distance we were getting from punts and accuracy on kicks.

I'm sure the results this season are as big a surprise to the staff as to us. Hell, its much worse now than last season.

A lot of you are gonna point to that punt formation, but, heck, it worked pretty well last season.

That tells me part of our issue is personnel or execution.

This leaves two possibilities:

1). The coaching staff is incapable of teaching the basics of special teams to the players

Or

2). The coaching staff just plain doesn't pay attention to special teams.

Both of these scenarios are completely unacceptable and are prime reasons for termination IMO.

Well, while you stand outside Perry Stadium with a picket sign calling for Brandon's head, I think I'll give it a week and see if Brandon can come up with some major changes that fit what our personnel are capable of.

Do you seriously mean to imply the staff isn't paying attention now?

Come on.

Jacobs4Heisman · Post by **Jacobs4Heisman** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:57 pm

We'll find out soon enough if this game was a wake-up call. I pray that it was and that scenario number 1 isn't the actuality.

And if the coaches thought they fixed all our ST problems just by bringing in new kickers, they don't belong anywhere near a D1 program.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:06 pm

Brandon won't do anything about ST's that will significantly impact our team in a positive way. It was by far our biggest problem last year and instead of fixing it he let matters get worse. In his mind he "fixed" ST's during the offseason by recruiting Ellis and Rojas. Just because they are supposed to be great kickers doesn't mean our ST's magically goes from zero to hero. He overlooks all the other aspects, such as blocking, covering, tackling, scheming etc... and you can't tell me that isn't hard to fix because we are already 2 games into the season!

jpfalcon09 · Post by **jpfalcon09** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:36 pm

Brandon said it all when he said he didn't know what to do about ST's. IMO, if I was AD, the ST's coach and even Brandon's job right now would be getting some serious consideration for termination. Brandon's attitude of seeingly ignoring problems, or whatever he's doing just simply isn't covering it. If it involves putting LB's and TE's on the line for punt formations just to block and speed guys on the outside, I'm all for it. I don't care if our players can race down the field to keep returns to a minimal gain, it's better than giving up 7 points every game from blocked punts.

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:37 pm

Actually, I complained last year pretty heavily about the execution on special teams across the board. The kickers were the glaring issues, but the coverage was poor last year as was our protection for our kickers. This year is worse, but these are not new issues in the least.

I will say that I do agree with Schad re: Execution. I don't like the punt formation because I think it's flawed. I still think it is more execution than scheme that is costing us all these blocks. Other teams do use this formation with some success; although I think we may be one of very few that uses it almost exclusively.

BGDrew · Post by **BGDrew** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:39 pm

jpfalcon09 wrote:Brandon said it all when he said he didn't know what to do about ST's. IMO, if I was AD, the ST's coach and even Brandon's job right now would be getting some serious consideration for termination. Brandon's attitude of seeingly ignoring problems, or whatever he's doing just simply isn't covering it. If it involves putting LB's and TE's on the line for punt formations just to block and speed guys on the outside, I'm all for it. I don't care if our players can race down the field to keep returns to a minimal gain, it's better than giving up 7 points every game from blocked punts.

Two Bowl Victories, Two MAC East Division Titles, Two QBs drafted to the NFL.

Yeah, I'm sure Brandon's job is in real danger.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:41 pm

I agree with that JP. Its not like Brandon noticed that we had a huge problem blocking on punts and changed everything for this week. Its not like he brought in bigger slower players to block better to alleivate the getting our punts stuffed problem. No he does nothing to fix the problem, maybe because he thinks we wouldnt be able to cover kicks then? But then back to what you said its a lot better to get the kick away and give up a return, then getting our kickers hurt and gift wrapping a TD every game. And even with our undersized "speedsters" in their blocking we still give up huge returns. I want to see something done to fix these problems, no matter how drastic. A lot of people have given me crap because I complain about the offense even though it has been good thus far and you say "If it ain't broke don't fix it!" Well damnit this is broke and we ain't even trying ANYTHING to fix it!!!!!!

hammb · Post by **hammb** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:43 pm

BGDrew wrote:
jpfalcon09 wrote:Brandon said it all when he said he didn't know what to do about ST's. IMO, if I was AD, the ST's coach and even Brandon's job right now would be getting some serious consideration for termination. Brandon's attitude of seeingly ignoring problems, or whatever he's doing just simply isn't covering it. If it involves putting LB's and TE's on the line for punt formations just to block and speed guys on the outside, I'm all for it. I don't care if our players can race down the field to keep returns to a minimal gain, it's better than giving up 7 points every game from blocked punts.
Two Bowl Victories, Two MAC East Division Titles, Two QBs drafted to the NFL.

Yeah, I'm sure Brandon's job is in real danger.

Riding a Blackney recruit, an Urban recruit, and drastically out-talenting teams (with players he didn't recruit) do not make a coaching resume.

I doubt his job is in jeopardy as well, but I'm not convinced that it shouldn't be.

When did we win a second East title? We only played in one MACC game ('03).

TG1996 · Post by **TG1996** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:46 pm

hammb wrote:When did we win a second East title? We only played in one MACC game ('03).

3 way tie last year.

orangeandbrown · Post by **orangeandbrown** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:46 pm

Given what we have seen in hoops (and with Blackmey) I think we can assume his contract will be allowed to run. Just as in hoops, I hope that he turns it around.

BGSUFootballFan · Post by **BGSUFootballFan** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:58 pm

We need to find someone else if we are going to fire him. Dont be like the Packers and fire Mike Sherman and have nothing to turn to. Be like UF and fire Zook for Urban, or ND Willingham for Weis!

hross1 · Post by **hross1** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:18 pm

Ok, I guess nobody thought my idea was a good one.

Schadenfreude · Post by **Schadenfreude** » Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:20 pm

jpfalcon09 wrote:Brandon said it all when he said he didn't know what to do about ST's.

Yes, he did.

After a five hour, 21 minute marathon that went into triple overtime and was in doubt until the final play, after watching his special teams get schooled in every aspect of the game, after opening a press confrence by saying something to the effect of; "I'm exhausted. I'm drained. Go ahead, fire away," yes he did say "I don't know" what I'm going to do about special teams.

I'm sure he'd have a more firm answer right at this very moment.

IMO, if I was AD, the ST's coach and even Brandon's job right now would be getting some serious consideration for termination.

So if you had been on campus for all of two months, you'd have the balls to fire D.J. Durkin?

Really?

C'mon.